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« on: January 03, 2012, 11:27:23 PM »

The more I watch college games that go into overtime, the more convinced I am that the NFL has it right.  The college OT system puts too much emphasis on field goal kicking, and none on punt and kickoff units.  No emphasis on field position.  The college OT system is nothing more than glorified soccer.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 11:29:34 PM »

I agree that it needs some tweaking.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 11:48:24 PM »

At least start the OT possessions out of FG range. 50yd. line?
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 06:56:42 AM »

At least start the OT possessions out of FG range. 50yd. line?

This right here is the crucial flaw. The NFL OT is a continuation of the same game that was tied. College football is closer to the, dare I say it, soccer approach, which essentially settles one type of game with a completely different type of contest. College creates not quite as much a different game in OT as soccer, but it's still not right.

On the other hand the games can't stretch on for hours either. Midfield would be a fine place to start.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 10:13:55 AM »

I think the OT rules are bad. If no NFL plan, then each team should start at the +40 or even the 50. Make a team move the ball to get into position. The 25 yard line plan doesn't require a team with a good kicker to move the ball.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 10:26:30 AM »

I propose we do away with field goals in OT and make teams score a TD. Leave the setup as now, each team gets to start from the 25.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 10:38:54 AM »

The more I watch college games that go into overtime, the more convinced I am that the NFL has it right.  The college OT system puts too much emphasis on field goal kicking, and none on punt and kickoff units.  No emphasis on field position.  The college OT system is nothing more than glorified soccer.

But on the other hand, the NFL system of sudden death puts a lot of weight on a coin toss.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 11:24:56 AM »

I propose we do away with field goals in OT and make teams score a TD. Leave the setup as now, each team gets to start from the 25.
Furthering your proposal, eliminate special teams altogether with taking the XP out and mandating a 2 pointer. BTW, the coin toss is controversially pivotal in both systems.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 12:42:21 PM »

I think a good mixture of the two is needed. Perhaps start each teams' possession with a kickoff. Require them to drive the field. If there is a fumble or turnover, allow it to be returned for six and the game is over. I basically think each team should have an offensive possession with equal opportunity. But just placing it on the 25 isn't the answer. I like a combination of the CFB and NFL model.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 01:02:24 PM »

I propose we do away with field goals in OT and make teams score a TD. Leave the setup as now, each team gets to start from the 25.
Furthering your proposal, eliminate special teams altogether with taking the XP out and mandating a 2 pointer. BTW, the coin toss is controversially pivotal in both systems.

Do away with the coin toss. Rock-paper-scissors. More strategy involved.

I do not like the NFL system. I think the ball should be moved back to the 40 or 50yd line. You should have to make a first down or two before you kick. Another option is to go the high school route and start at the 10. No one would be kicking FG with the other team starting at the 10.

The original idea of two short possessions was to get the game over quickly. Right now OT takes longer than the 4th quarter.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 01:14:04 PM »

I propose we do away with field goals in OT and make teams score a TD. Leave the setup as now, each team gets to start from the 25.
Furthering your proposal, eliminate special teams altogether with taking the XP out and mandating a 2 pointer. BTW, the coin toss is controversially pivotal in both systems.

Do away with the coin toss. Rock-paper-scissors. More strategy involved.

I do not like the NFL system. I think the ball should be moved back to the 40 or 50yd line. You should have to make a first down or two before you kick. Another option is to go the high school route and start at the 10. No one would be kicking FG with the other team starting at the 10.

The original idea of two short possessions was to get the game over quickly. Right now OT takes longer than the 4th quarter.

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 01:43:01 PM »

How about a couple of 2 minute mini-halves?  Use the exact same rules as the regular game.  Have a coin toss just like you do at the beginning of the game.  The only difference is the half only lasts for 2 minutes and it is not broken into 2 quarters.  Then once the first OT half is over, switch sides and the other team gets the ball to start the next 2 minute session.  Scoring doesn't end the game.  It keeps going until the end of the 4 minutes.  If they are still tied, do it again.  I suspect this would be about as fast as the current OT, but it does not change the rules or emphasis of the game in any way.  You still have to KO, you still have to punt if your drive stalls, and all the rest.  Field position becomes important again.

The more I think about it, the more I like it.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 01:50:21 PM »

How about a couple of 2 minute mini-halves?  Use the exact same rules as the regular game.  Have a coin toss just like you do at the beginning of the game.  The only difference is the half only lasts for 2 minutes and it is not broken into 2 quarters.  Then once the first OT half is over, switch sides and the other team gets the ball to start the next 2 minute session.  Scoring doesn't end the game.  It keeps going until the end of the 4 minutes.  If they are still tied, do it again.  I suspect this would be about as fast as the current OT, but it does not change the rules or emphasis of the game in any way.  You still have to KO, you still have to punt if your drive stalls, and all the rest.  Field position becomes important again.

The more I think about it, the more I like it.
It favors a spread type "high flying" offense over the grind it out long time consuming drives. Angry
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 01:51:01 PM »

I propose we do away with field goals in OT and make teams score a TD. Leave the setup as now, each team gets to start from the 25.
Furthering your proposal, eliminate special teams altogether with taking the XP out and mandating a 2 pointer. BTW, the coin toss is controversially pivotal in both systems.

Do away with the coin toss. Rock-paper-scissors. More strategy involved.

I do not like the NFL system. I think the ball should be moved back to the 40 or 50yd line. You should have to make a first down or two before you kick. Another option is to go the high school route and start at the 10. No one would be kicking FG with the other team starting at the 10.

The original idea of two short possessions was to get the game over quickly. Right now OT takes longer than the 4th quarter.

Take dynamite.

 How about "our coach fights your coach?"

I like the idea of the coaching fighting but not to start the game. That should be done at halftime.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2012, 01:54:10 PM »

I propose we do away with field goals in OT and make teams score a TD. Leave the setup as now, each team gets to start from the 25.
Furthering your proposal, eliminate special teams altogether with taking the XP out and mandating a 2 pointer. BTW, the coin toss is controversially pivotal in both systems.

Do away with the coin toss. Rock-paper-scissors. More strategy involved.

I do not like the NFL system. I think the ball should be moved back to the 40 or 50yd line. You should have to make a first down or two before you kick. Another option is to go the high school route and start at the 10. No one would be kicking FG with the other team starting at the 10.

The original idea of two short possessions was to get the game over quickly. Right now OT takes longer than the 4th quarter.

Take dynamite.

 How about "our coach fights your coach?"

I like the idea of the coaching fighting but not to start the game. That should be done at halftime.
Whole new meaning for the Ohio State "dot your eye" thing.
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