Penn State Said to be Planning Paterno’s Exit Amid Scandal

[Marshal Dillon]

I have no doubts that Sandusky is guilty of all counts (and many that were not reported).  I have no evidence, only the news reports that we have all read.  But somehow my gut tells me he is guilty as charged, while my gut tells me that JoePa was oblivious to what was going on right under his own nose, along with all of the parents of those victims.  We will see soon enough I reckon.

I think you are being overly generous in your assessment of Paterno. Sandusky has been with him since 1963, first as a player then a coach. To say Paterno did not have a clue about this guy for at least 15 years is just not realistic. This make Paterno either totally incompetent or at the very least, guilty of benign neglect, or in other wwords, he didn't want to know.

Maybe.  But did you see the interview with Matt Millen on Sportscenter yesterday?  He said he has known Sandusky since 1976 (I think).  Sandusky was his position coach at PSU.  When Sandusky wanted to start the Second Mile charity he came to Millen first.  Millen was on the board of the charity.  Sandusky had been to Millen's house on several occasions.  Millen said that when he thought back on all those years, he could not have imagined that Sandusky would do this.  Millen was visibly angry, and there is no way he would not have put a stop to this had he known what was going on.  He even said he would like to take care of this himself, but that isn't the right thing to do.  So if Millen was fooled, then I can see where JoePa could have been fooled too.  These perverts are very skilled at hiding what they do.

I have not seen the latest news today, so maybe something has come out that will change my opinion.  I just saw on ESPN.com that JoePa is going to retire at the end of the season, so I guess I will go read that and see what it says.

Matt Millen has not worked every day for over 30 years with Sandusky like Paterno did. Also, Sandusky still had an office at the athletic complex and was seen there on a regular business. Remember, he was raping little boys in the locker room AFTER he was retired. Penn State knew something was wrong and so did Paterno.

[SUPERCOACH]

I hear you WV, and I don't disagree with you.  I still want to hear from JoePa, at a podium, answering questions like:

1.  Why did you not go to the police?
2.  What exactly did the GA tell you?  (Then confirm with the GA).
3.  Why where you standing outside your house laughing and giggling about this?
4.  Don't you understand this story is not about you, it is about the victims?

And some others.  And he better have good answers for all of them.  I'm not talking about prepared statements from a bunch of lawyers either.  If a little more time goes by and he still hasn't done this, that is very telling in my opinion.

Matt Millen said JoePa was arrogant yesterday, and I am starting to see what he is talking about.

Another twist that I saw today was the suggestion that all of this broke right after he got win 409, and perhaps somebody was holding off until he had the record.

Another thing I would like to know, is why was Sandusky not prosecuted for the 1998 incident that supposedly led to his retirement?

There are tons of questions that need to be answered.

[BAMAWV]

I have no doubts that Sandusky is guilty of all counts (and many that were not reported).  I have no evidence, only the news reports that we have all read.  But somehow my gut tells me he is guilty as charged, while my gut tells me that JoePa was oblivious to what was going on right under his own nose, along with all of the parents of those victims.  We will see soon enough I reckon.

I think you are being overly generous in your assessment of Paterno. Sandusky has been with him since 1963, first as a player then a coach. To say Paterno did not have a clue about this guy for at least 15 years is just not realistic. This make Paterno either totally incompetent or at the very least, guilty of benign neglect, or in other wwords, he didn't want to know.

Maybe.  But did you see the interview with Matt Millen on Sportscenter yesterday?  He said he has known Sandusky since 1976 (I think).  Sandusky was his position coach at PSU.  When Sandusky wanted to start the Second Mile charity he came to Millen first.  Millen was on the board of the charity.  Sandusky had been to Millen's house on several occasions.  Millen said that when he thought back on all those years, he could not have imagined that Sandusky would do this.  Millen was visibly angry, and there is no way he would not have put a stop to this had he known what was going on.  He even said he would like to take care of this himself, but that isn't the right thing to do.  So if Millen was fooled, then I can see where JoePa could have been fooled too.  These perverts are very skilled at hiding what they do.

I have not seen the latest news today, so maybe something has come out that will change my opinion.  I just saw on ESPN.com that JoePa is going to retire at the end of the season, so I guess I will go read that and see what it says.

Matt Millen has not worked every day for over 30 years with Sandusky like Paterno did. Also, Sandusky still had an office at the athletic complex and was seen there on a regular business. Remember, he was raping little boys in the locker room AFTER he was retired. Penn State knew something was wrong and so did Paterno.

You bet. If anything I say it may have been Sandusky fatigue where they are sick of hearing reports about him. "I don't have time for this today" or "Ah,gee. Jerry's back up to it again".    Just take a minute and picture him doing that to one of your children. Sorry to interupt your happy day, JoPa.

[SUPERCOACH]

I have no doubts that Sandusky is guilty of all counts (and many that were not reported).  I have no evidence, only the news reports that we have all read.  But somehow my gut tells me he is guilty as charged, while my gut tells me that JoePa was oblivious to what was going on right under his own nose, along with all of the parents of those victims.  We will see soon enough I reckon.

I think you are being overly generous in your assessment of Paterno. Sandusky has been with him since 1963, first as a player then a coach. To say Paterno did not have a clue about this guy for at least 15 years is just not realistic. This make Paterno either totally incompetent or at the very least, guilty of benign neglect, or in other wwords, he didn't want to know.

Maybe.  But did you see the interview with Matt Millen on Sportscenter yesterday?  He said he has known Sandusky since 1976 (I think).  Sandusky was his position coach at PSU.  When Sandusky wanted to start the Second Mile charity he came to Millen first.  Millen was on the board of the charity.  Sandusky had been to Millen's house on several occasions.  Millen said that when he thought back on all those years, he could not have imagined that Sandusky would do this.  Millen was visibly angry, and there is no way he would not have put a stop to this had he known what was going on.  He even said he would like to take care of this himself, but that isn't the right thing to do.  So if Millen was fooled, then I can see where JoePa could have been fooled too.  These perverts are very skilled at hiding what they do.

I have not seen the latest news today, so maybe something has come out that will change my opinion.  I just saw on ESPN.com that JoePa is going to retire at the end of the season, so I guess I will go read that and see what it says.

Matt Millen has not worked every day for over 30 years with Sandusky like Paterno did. Also, Sandusky still had an office at the athletic complex and was seen there on a regular business. Remember, he was raping little boys in the locker room AFTER he was retired. Penn State knew something was wrong and so did Paterno.

The fact that he still had an office there only makes me think that they didn't believe any of this was true.  Think about it.  If they knew this was going on, or even suspected it, would they let him have an office there?  He must have fooled them all.  Pedophiles are good at that.

All I am saying is that the story that is being reported does not add up.  There is more to this.  There are details that we don't know yet.

[Marshal Dillon]

I hear you WV, and I don't disagree with you.  I still want to hear from JoePa, at a podium, answering questions like:

1.  Why did you not go to the police?
2.  What exactly did the GA tell you?  (Then confirm with the GA).
3.  Why where you standing outside your house laughing and giggling about this?
4.  Don't you understand this story is not about you, it is about the victims?

And some others.  And he better have good answers for all of them.  I'm not talking about prepared statements from a bunch of lawyers either.  If a little more time goes by and he still hasn't done this, that is very telling in my opinion.

Matt Millen said JoePa was arrogant yesterday, and I am starting to see what he is talking about.

Another twist that I saw today was the suggestion that all of this broke right after he got win 409, and perhaps somebody was holding off until he had the record.

Another thing I would like to know, is why was Sandusky not prosecuted for the 1998 incident that supposedly led to his retirement?

There are tons of questions that need to be answered.

At age 84, I really believe Paterno is not all there. The fact he was going to hold his regular Tuesday press conference to discuss the Nebraska game and stated he would not answer questions about the scandal, shows an incredible lack of understanding of the serious nature of the allegations. He really thought he could blow it off and just talk about
football. He's been in charge and unchallenged for so long, he thinks he's untouchable.

 
 

[SUPERCOACH]

I have no doubts that Sandusky is guilty of all counts (and many that were not reported).  I have no evidence, only the news reports that we have all read.  But somehow my gut tells me he is guilty as charged, while my gut tells me that JoePa was oblivious to what was going on right under his own nose, along with all of the parents of those victims.  We will see soon enough I reckon.

I think you are being overly generous in your assessment of Paterno. Sandusky has been with him since 1963, first as a player then a coach. To say Paterno did not have a clue about this guy for at least 15 years is just not realistic. This make Paterno either totally incompetent or at the very least, guilty of benign neglect, or in other wwords, he didn't want to know.

Maybe.  But did you see the interview with Matt Millen on Sportscenter yesterday?  He said he has known Sandusky since 1976 (I think).  Sandusky was his position coach at PSU.  When Sandusky wanted to start the Second Mile charity he came to Millen first.  Millen was on the board of the charity.  Sandusky had been to Millen's house on several occasions.  Millen said that when he thought back on all those years, he could not have imagined that Sandusky would do this.  Millen was visibly angry, and there is no way he would not have put a stop to this had he known what was going on.  He even said he would like to take care of this himself, but that isn't the right thing to do.  So if Millen was fooled, then I can see where JoePa could have been fooled too.  These perverts are very skilled at hiding what they do.

I have not seen the latest news today, so maybe something has come out that will change my opinion.  I just saw on ESPN.com that JoePa is going to retire at the end of the season, so I guess I will go read that and see what it says.

Matt Millen has not worked every day for over 30 years with Sandusky like Paterno did. Also, Sandusky still had an office at the athletic complex and was seen there on a regular business. Remember, he was raping little boys in the locker room AFTER he was retired. Penn State knew something was wrong and so did Paterno.

You bet. If anything I say it may have been Sandusky fatigue where they are sick of hearing reports about him. "I don't have time for this today" or "Ah,gee. Jerry's back up to it again".    Just take a minute and picture him doing that to one of your children. Sorry to interupt your happy day, JoPa.

If they did that they need to burn the whole place to the ground.  We also need to hear from this GA who witnessed it first hand.  This nonsense about him being on a recruiting trip is total BS.  He needs to get back to campus.  He is not going to win any recruits, ever again.  Can you imagine this punk showing up at your door to convince you to let your kid come to Penn State?

[SUPERCOACH]

I hear you WV, and I don't disagree with you.  I still want to hear from JoePa, at a podium, answering questions like:

1.  Why did you not go to the police?
2.  What exactly did the GA tell you?  (Then confirm with the GA).
3.  Why where you standing outside your house laughing and giggling about this?
4.  Don't you understand this story is not about you, it is about the victims?

And some others.  And he better have good answers for all of them.  I'm not talking about prepared statements from a bunch of lawyers either.  If a little more time goes by and he still hasn't done this, that is very telling in my opinion.

Matt Millen said JoePa was arrogant yesterday, and I am starting to see what he is talking about.

Another twist that I saw today was the suggestion that all of this broke right after he got win 409, and perhaps somebody was holding off until he had the record.

Another thing I would like to know, is why was Sandusky not prosecuted for the 1998 incident that supposedly led to his retirement?

There are tons of questions that need to be answered.

At age 84, I really believe Paterno is not all there. The fact he was going to hold his regular Tuesday press conference to discuss the Nebraska game and stated he would not answer questions about the scandal, shows an incredible lack of understanding of the serious nature of the allegations. He really thought he could blow it off and just talk about
football. He's been in charge and unchallenged for so long, he thinks he's untouchable.

 
 

He seems totally out of touch right now, perhaps even delusional.  This could explain the giggling I guess.

[BAMAWV]

I hear you WV, and I don't disagree with you.  I still want to hear from JoePa, at a podium, answering questions like:

1.  Why did you not go to the police?
2.  What exactly did the GA tell you?  (Then confirm with the GA).
3.  Why where you standing outside your house laughing and giggling about this?
4.  Don't you understand this story is not about you, it is about the victims?

And some others.  And he better have good answers for all of them.  I'm not talking about prepared statements from a bunch of lawyers either.  If a little more time goes by and he still hasn't done this, that is very telling in my opinion.

Matt Millen said JoePa was arrogant yesterday, and I am starting to see what he is talking about.

Another twist that I saw today was the suggestion that all of this broke right after he got win 409, and perhaps somebody was holding off until he had the record.

Another thing I would like to know, is why was Sandusky not prosecuted for the 1998 incident that supposedly led to his retirement?

There are tons of questions that need to be answered.

The only comment I want to hear,--that would be acceptable to me, is this:

"An assistant came into my office and kind of told me what was going on. I should have made sure it never happened, on my watch, ever again. I am stepping aside, today, in order to make it perfectly clear,--that this is not acceptable at Penn State University."

[Chechem]

I hear you WV, and I don't disagree with you.  I still want to hear from JoePa, at a podium, answering questions like:

1.  Why did you not go to the police?
2.  What exactly did the GA tell you?  (Then confirm with the GA).
3.  Why where you standing outside your house laughing and giggling about this?
4.  Don't you understand this story is not about you, it is about the victims?

And some others.  And he better have good answers for all of them.  I'm not talking about prepared statements from a bunch of lawyers either.  If a little more time goes by and he still hasn't done this, that is very telling in my opinion.

Matt Millen said JoePa was arrogant yesterday, and I am starting to see what he is talking about.

Another twist that I saw today was the suggestion that all of this broke right after he got win 409, and perhaps somebody was holding off until he had the record.

Another thing I would like to know, is why was Sandusky not prosecuted for the 1998 incident that supposedly led to his retirement?

There are tons of questions that need to be answered.

The only comment I want to hear,--that would be acceptable to me, is this:

"An assistant came into my office and kind of told me what was going on. I should have made sure it never happened, on my watch, ever again. I am stepping aside, today, in order to make it perfectly clear,--that this is not acceptable at Penn State University."

Now that he's stepping down, I doubt he'll say anything more.  If asked, he'll snap at the media.  He'll become a hermit.

[XBAMA]

But did you see the interview with Matt Millen on Sportscenter yesterday?

the video of the interview with  MM Click here for link

[BAMAWV]

I'm furious over the Paterno part of this story. But I'll give it a rest for a second to further SC's point about the GA out on the recruiting trail:

"Hey, nice tush on your kid. Think he'd like to play football at Penn St."

or how about Sandusky first week of TWO-A-DAYS at the Pennsylvania State pen. He'd only have to change a couple of letters on his shirts.

BTW: Paterno retiring at end of season is NOT good enough. NOW-today.

[SUPERCOACH]

I'm furious over the Paterno part of this story. But I'll give it a rest for a second to further SC's point about the GA out on the recruiting trail:

"Hey, nice tush on your kid. Think he'd like to play football at Penn St."

or how about Sandusky first week of TWO-A-DAYS at the Pennsylvania State pen. He'd only have to change a couple of letters on his shirts.

BTW: Paterno retiring at end of season is NOT good enough. NOW-today.

If he looked the other way on this, retiring should not be an option.  He needs to be fired.

[cbbama99]

I'm furious over the Paterno part of this story. But I'll give it a rest for a second to further SC's point about the GA out on the recruiting trail:

"Hey, nice tush on your kid. Think he'd like to play football at Penn St."

or how about Sandusky first week of TWO-A-DAYS at the Pennsylvania State pen. He'd only have to change a couple of letters on his shirts.

BTW: Paterno retiring at end of season is NOT good enough. NOW-today.

If he looked the other way on this, retiring should not be an option.  He needs to be fired.

I agree, but it ain't going to happen. JoePa has made this university, and my guess is that the BOT up there wants to put him away as quietly as possible instead of making an even bigger media field day by firing him. As bad as it is now, the circus will grow bigger if he is "fired" (though asking him to step down is akin to that anyway).

[XBAMA]

KNOWN TIMELINE

A chronological look at the case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, based on a grand jury report in Pennsylvania state court. Some key dates in Penn State football history are included. Sandusky has been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of serial sex abuse of minors.


1969 — Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as a defensive line coach.


1977 — Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows into a charity dedicated to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.


January 1983 — Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1982 season.


January 1987 — Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1986 season.


1994 — Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second Mile program at about the age of 10.


1994-95 — Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old.


1995-96 — Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade.


1996-97 — Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program.


1996-98 — Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old.


Jan. 1, 1998 — Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl.


1998 — Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate.


Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6's mother tries to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, "I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead."


Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong.


The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.


June 1999 — Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.


Dec. 28, 1999 — Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.


Summer 2000 — Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.


Fall 2000 — A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.


Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8's identity is unknown.


March 1, 2002 — A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.


March 2, 2002 — In the morning, the graduate assistant calls Coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno's home, where he reports what he has seen.


March 3, 2002 — Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State Athletic Director to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.


March 2002 — Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and Senior Vice President for Finance and Business Gary Schultz. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say they will look into it.


March 27, 2002 (approximate) — The graduate assistant hears from Curley. He is told that Sandusky's locker room keys are taken away and that the incident has been reported to The Second Mile. The graduate assistant is never questioned by university police and no other entity conducts an investigation until the graduate assistant testifies in Grand Jury in December 2010.


2005-2006 — Boy known as Victim 1 says that meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at age 11 or 12.


Spring 2007 — During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College Township, Pa.


Spring 2008 — Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.


Early 2009 — An investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general begins when a Clinton County, Pa. teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period.


September 2010 — Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile, saying he wants to spend more time with family and handle personal matters.


Nov. 5, 2011 — Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts.


Nov. 7, 2011 — Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says Paterno is not a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations. But she refuses to say the same for university President Graham Spanier. Curley and Schultz, who have stepped down from their positions, surrender on charges that they failed to alert police to complaints against Sandusky.

[XBAMA]

Joe in the window interview ... wth is this ?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMZXCwYV7d8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMZXCwYV7d8</a>

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