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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2018, 05:58:46 AM »



Coach, ever seen this blocking technique??   
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2018, 08:08:43 AM »

I have a question about the play where Tua was sacked on our first possession. We were on the 6 yard line. I looked at the play a few times in slow mo, and it looks like the entire O-line was slanting to the left on their blocks.  We left their left DE unblocked on the play, so it looked like the play should have gone to the left.  Even D. Harris ran right by their left DE and just ignored him and ran a pattern to the right flat.  This was one of the players in on the sack.  The other was a blitzing DB (I think) up the middle, who we first attempted to block to the left, and then just released him.  My question is:  was all this blocking to the left just window dressing to draw their defense that way, or did we have some confusion on the play call?
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2018, 04:00:58 PM »

I have a question about the play where Tua was sacked on our first possession. We were on the 6 yard line. I looked at the play a few times in slow mo, and it looks like the entire O-line was slanting to the left on their blocks.  We left their left DE unblocked on the play, so it looked like the play should have gone to the left.  Even D. Harris ran right by their left DE and just ignored him and ran a pattern to the right flat.  This was one of the players in on the sack.  The other was a blitzing DB (I think) up the middle, who we first attempted to block to the left, and then just released him.  My question is:  was all this blocking to the left just window dressing to draw their defense that way, or did we have some confusion on the play call?

Watching the play again, it looks to me like the OL was blocking a running play to the left. However, it was probably a run pass option and I think the thought I Smith would be open when he came from the left side to the right behind the line but the LB picked him up.  There seems to be some confusion because the WR didn't run a very good route as well as Harris's release.  Harris may have been confused because he may have thought the guy he could have blocked was going to cover him instead of rush.  The spacing between the receives wasn't very good.  I think it would have been more successful to flip the ball to Jeudy on the motion or motion him over for an extra blocker and give the ball to Harris for a run to the left.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2018, 04:10:31 PM »

I have a question about the play where Tua was sacked on our first possession. We were on the 6 yard line. I looked at the play a few times in slow mo, and it looks like the entire O-line was slanting to the left on their blocks.  We left their left DE unblocked on the play, so it looked like the play should have gone to the left.  Even D. Harris ran right by their left DE and just ignored him and ran a pattern to the right flat.  This was one of the players in on the sack.  The other was a blitzing DB (I think) up the middle, who we first attempted to block to the left, and then just released him.  My question is:  was all this blocking to the left just window dressing to draw their defense that way, or did we have some confusion on the play call?

Watching the play again, it looks to me like the OL was blocking a running play to the left. However, it was probably a run pass option and I think the thought I Smith would be open when he came from the left side to the right behind the line but the LB picked him up.  There seems to be some confusion because the WR didn't run a very good route as well as Harris's release.  Harris may have been confused because he may have thought the guy he could have blocked was going to cover him instead of rush.  The spacing between the receives wasn't very good.  I think it would have been more successful to flip the ball to Jeudy on the motion or motion him over for an extra blocker and give the ball to Harris for a run to the left.

Irv Smith getting covered botched the play.  Tua held the ball hoping for Irv to clear, but he never did come free.  It might have been a 1-receiver play; Irv from the left crossed behind the line and should have been open.  But the LB did a good job of seeing Irv and closed to keep Tua from throwing.  No other receivers were available, except Harris (a defender was between Tua and him).
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« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2018, 04:26:12 PM »

I have a question about the play where Tua was sacked on our first possession. We were on the 6 yard line. I looked at the play a few times in slow mo, and it looks like the entire O-line was slanting to the left on their blocks.  We left their left DE unblocked on the play, so it looked like the play should have gone to the left.  Even D. Harris ran right by their left DE and just ignored him and ran a pattern to the right flat.  This was one of the players in on the sack.  The other was a blitzing DB (I think) up the middle, who we first attempted to block to the left, and then just released him.  My question is:  was all this blocking to the left just window dressing to draw their defense that way, or did we have some confusion on the play call?

Watching the play again, it looks to me like the OL was blocking a running play to the left. However, it was probably a run pass option and I think the thought I Smith would be open when he came from the left side to the right behind the line but the LB picked him up.  There seems to be some confusion because the WR didn't run a very good route as well as Harris's release.  Harris may have been confused because he may have thought the guy he could have blocked was going to cover him instead of rush.  The spacing between the receives wasn't very good.  I think it would have been more successful to flip the ball to Jeudy on the motion or motion him over for an extra blocker and give the ball to Harris for a run to the left.

Irv Smith getting covered botched the play.  Tua held the ball hoping for Irv to clear, but he never did come free.  It might have been a 1-receiver play; Irv from the left crossed behind the line and should have been open.  But the LB did a good job of seeing Irv and closed to keep Tua from throwing.  No other receivers were available.

If D Smith runs a fade or even a post he clears out some clutter, probably would have been open on a short post.  Harris's route is stopped but he slows down.  I Smith can't run a good route because of the two other receivers especially Harris.  He probably could have had enough leverage if the other two had done a better job.  It is like the knew I Smith was going to get the ball and so they ran lazy routes.
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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2018, 04:26:33 PM »

Well without TV I love the reports you all make here. RTR!
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« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2018, 04:27:55 PM »

Well without TV I love the reports you all make here. RTR!

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2018, 08:54:22 AM »

I haven't liked the play calling the last two games. Especially in the run game...seems as if all we want to do is run between the tackles. To have the personnel that we have, and to rarely get outside seems like missed opportunities. What was the point of being down by 7 and running the Jalen/Tua package? Especially when it was basically the same plays as seen in previous games. Just didn't make any sense to me and ended up being a 3 and out.

I sure hope the playcalling gets better in the next game...
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2018, 09:04:14 AM »

I haven't liked the play calling the last two games. Especially in the run game...seems as if all we want to do is run between the tackles. To have the personnel that we have, and to rarely get outside seems like missed opportunities. What was the point of being down by 7 and running the Jalen/Tua package? Especially when it was basically the same plays as seen in previous games. Just didn't make any sense to me and ended up being a 3 and out.

I sure hope the playcalling gets better in the next game...

Yeah, I miss the days of the Darby up the middle offense where we scored a max of 24 points a game. These 50 and 35 point games against good SEC defenses are terrible to watch.
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2018, 09:05:18 AM »



Coach, ever seen this blocking technique??   

I donít remember ever seeing something like that. I donít know if it was coached or spontaneous, but it worked.
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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2018, 01:26:51 PM »



Coach, ever seen this blocking technique??   

I donít remember ever seeing something like that. I donít know if it was coached or spontaneous, but it worked.

I would not be surprised if it isn't coached.  We would tell our player on the kicking game to put hands up in certain situations so there was no way a block in the back could be called.  Just shielding players in some instances give a returner a chance.  Saying that we use to use a kick off return where our 2nd line outside player had a kill shot on the 3rd cover guy.  We used a counting system on who had who and didn't count the safeties.  It worked 95% of the time and we averaged about 40 yards a kick off return.
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« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2018, 01:32:52 PM »

I haven't liked the play calling the last two games. Especially in the run game...seems as if all we want to do is run between the tackles. To have the personnel that we have, and to rarely get outside seems like missed opportunities. What was the point of being down by 7 and running the Jalen/Tua package? Especially when it was basically the same plays as seen in previous games. Just didn't make any sense to me and ended up being a 3 and out.

I sure hope the playcalling gets better in the next game...

The running game is determined on how the defense lines ups to certain formations.  This is decided by the film study looking at formations and defensive alignments.  The problem, to me, the last couple of games is the OL hasn't gotten to the second level very well.  Also, I have said this before, it seems that something the OL may be doing to give the run game away.  I do think Bama could run the edges a little better, even if it is the jet sweep action/pass.  Watching the first sack, I think Bama could have scored if they had run the jet sweep  that play or even motioned Jeudy over for an extra blocker and run Harris that way.
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2018, 02:26:50 PM »

I haven't liked the play calling the last two games. Especially in the run game...seems as if all we want to do is run between the tackles. To have the personnel that we have, and to rarely get outside seems like missed opportunities. What was the point of being down by 7 and running the Jalen/Tua package? Especially when it was basically the same plays as seen in previous games. Just didn't make any sense to me and ended up being a 3 and out.

I sure hope the playcalling gets better in the next game...

The running game is determined on how the defense lines ups to certain formations.  This is decided by the film study looking at formations and defensive alignments.  The problem, to me, the last couple of games is the OL hasn't gotten to the second level very well.  Also, I have said this before, it seems that something the OL may be doing to give the run game away.  I do think Bama could run the edges a little better, even if it is the jet sweep action/pass.  Watching the first sack, I think Bama could have scored if they had run the jet sweep  that play or even motioned Jeudy over for an extra blocker and run Harris that way.

As much as I disliked the frequency of Kiffin's jet sweeps. I'd take some of that now just to keep the defense honest with the run game. I reckon I'd just like to see our backs being able to work in space more frequently.
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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2018, 02:33:53 PM »

I haven't liked the play calling the last two games. Especially in the run game...seems as if all we want to do is run between the tackles. To have the personnel that we have, and to rarely get outside seems like missed opportunities. What was the point of being down by 7 and running the Jalen/Tua package? Especially when it was basically the same plays as seen in previous games. Just didn't make any sense to me and ended up being a 3 and out.

I sure hope the playcalling gets better in the next game...

The running game is determined on how the defense lines ups to certain formations.  This is decided by the film study looking at formations and defensive alignments.  The problem, to me, the last couple of games is the OL hasn't gotten to the second level very well.  Also, I have said this before, it seems that something the OL may be doing to give the run game away.  I do think Bama could run the edges a little better, even if it is the jet sweep action/pass.  Watching the first sack, I think Bama could have scored if they had run the jet sweep  that play or even motioned Jeudy over for an extra blocker and run Harris that way.

As much as I disliked the frequency of Kiffin's jet sweeps. I'd take some of that now just to keep the defense honest with the run game. I reckon I'd just like to see our backs being able to work in space more frequently.

I agree with the game breakers you have running them.  It helps keep the defense honest because they can't just crash on the inside run.
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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2018, 02:48:21 PM »

Well you have DH inside or out, Josh inside or out and Najee outside or end and he is certainly a down hill runner. This should any defense honest so our passing game should work. I like using the run to set up the pass. RTR!
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