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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2017, 03:41:41 PM »

Know the NCAA rules on scholarships...

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The NCAA says we can not pay for baseball scholarships from athletic funds? Still don't understand.



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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2017, 04:58:39 PM »

Know the NCAA rules on scholarships...

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The NCAA says we can not pay for baseball scholarships from athletic funds? Stillest.



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Title 9 is great for women but bad for men. Even though more high school boys play sports an equal amount of college scholarships have to be given. Football has 85 so other men's sports suffer. Women get more basketball, softball, track, tennis, golf and soccer scholarships than the men. According to the NCAA it is not about money. It is about women being equal. Bottom line is schools are giving out trivial scholarships in meaningless sports rather than to the revenue sports that pay the way for all sports.

Sorry for the poor cut and paste but scholarship limits for each sport is listed below.

Sport   Men's   Women's
Baseball/softball   11.7   12
Basketball   13   15
Bowling   0   5
Equestrian   0   15
Fencing   4.5   5
Field hockey0   12
Football   85   0
Golf           4.5   6
Gymnastics   6.3   12
Ice hockey   18   18
Lacrosse   12.6   12
Rifle           3.6    0
Rowing   0   20
Rugby   0   12
Sand volleyball   0   3*
Skiing          6.3   7
Soccer   9.9   14
Swimming/diving   9.9   14
Tennis   4.5   8
Track and field/
cross-country   12.6   18
Volleyball   4.5   12
Water polo   4.5   8
Wrestling   9.9   0
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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2017, 05:29:02 PM »

Why is money such a big deal in football? We should be able to spend our money what ever way we see fit should we not? RTR!
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« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2017, 05:06:43 AM »

Is water polo and fencing really popular enough to use scholarships for? Seems like they would be put to better use with the baseball team.
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2017, 06:10:50 AM »

Is water polo and fencing really popular enough to use scholarships for? Seems like they would be put to better use with the baseball team.

NCAA is still in denial about football and basketball being professional college sports.

 
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« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2017, 06:40:14 AM »

Bama last to #5 Florida 2-1 in a pitchers duel last night. Bama pitching only gave up 3 hits but found a way to lose in the 9th. UF got a single to open the 9th. A bad pick off throw advanced the runner to 2nd. A wild pitch moved him to third. He scored on a lazy fly ball sac fly. Florida's other run came on a solo HR in the 7th. Bama was only able to get 1 run on 5 hits against two of the Florida ace and one of the best relievers in the country.
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« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2017, 06:46:17 AM »

AD Greg Byrne addressed the partial scholarships at Bama this past week with us and seemed to possibly have an idea or plan to establish whole scholarships for all athletes at Alabama. He didn't go into any detail as to how that can happen but seemed optimistic that it could. 
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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2017, 06:54:53 AM »

AD Greg Byrne addressed the partial scholarships at Bama this past week with us and seemed to possibly have an idea or plan to establish whole scholarships for all athletes at Alabama. He didn't go into any detail as to how that can happen but seemed optimistic that it could. 

That would be great! 
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« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2017, 10:11:09 AM »

Maybe he is going to be better than we expected. He seems to be working on ways to improve our sports programs. RTR!
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« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2017, 08:13:47 AM »

Bama loses Game Two to the Gators 13-6. We need to win today to avoid the sweep.
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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2017, 06:35:31 AM »

The long year comes to an end today and not a minute too soon. Right when I thought things could not be ant worse I was wrong. We lost to Vandy 18-1 on Thursday and followed that up by losing 13-1 on Friday. If we lose today our 5 SEC wins will tie the record for fewest SEC wins since the SEC went to a 30 game season in the mid-90's. Our overall record is 19-34.

I expected more out of this team. We were 32-26 last year and a respectable 15-15 in SEC play. Most of that team came back. I am not sure if the team quit on the coach or if the coach quit on the team. We were fundamentally bad. I cannot find anything to look forward to for next year.

You have to go back to 1980 to see a record this bad. In Shollenberger's first year we were 18-28. The next year we were 41-15 and SEC Champions. Maybe there is something to look forward to.
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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2017, 12:10:34 PM »

The long year comes to an end today and not a minute too soon. Right when I thought things could not be ant worse I was wrong. We lost to Vandy 18-1 on Thursday and followed that up by losing 13-1 on Friday. If we lose today our 5 SEC wins will tie the record for fewest SEC wins since the SEC went to a 30 game season in the mid-90's. Our overall record is 19-34.

I expected more out of this team. We were 32-26 last year and a respectable 15-15 in SEC play. Most of that team came back. I am not sure if the team quit on the coach or if the coach quit on the team. We were fundamentally bad. I cannot find anything to look forward to for next year.

You have to go back to 1980 to see a record this bad. In Shollenberger's first year we were 18-28. The next year we were 41-15 and SEC Champions. Maybe there is something to look forward to.




Why would either thing happen? Is the coach a strict disciplinarian, a total jerk, incompetent or a combination of these? This whole season makes no sense to me. Worried about next year already.



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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2017, 08:09:25 AM »

It is finally over. The last game of the season ends in a 3-3 tie after a rain delay in the 8th. Bama had a 3-2 lead going into the bottom of the 8th. The tying run was scored on a balk.

This team was fundamentally bad. In the 7th we had a runner reach 3rd safely and then step off the base with the 3B still holding the ball and tag him out. Head Coach Goff is the 3B coach. A balk with a runner on 3rd in a 1 run game.

When you hear fundamentals you think of defensive errors. It is much more than that. Look at the numbers below. Opponents in ().

Errors:  61  (56)
Stolen Bases allowed 56 (27)
Pass Ball 21  (11)
Catcher Interference 3  (0)
Walks  260  (201)
Wild Pitches  88  (46) This is a Alabama and conference record.

Goff took over a team returning 6 of 8 position player starters. The only big loss was a very good defensive catcher in Will Haney. Two weekend starters and a decent bull pen. Pitching was going to be the strength of the team. A good but not great recruiting class that was mostly put together by CMG. On paper we should be better this year than last. Last year we went 32-26 and 15-15 in SEC play. Not good but respectable middle of the SEC. This year we are dead last with 19 total wins and 5 SEC wins. We were 7 games short of finishing in 12th place to make the SEC Tournament.

There has been a lot of talk about Goff being relieved at the end of the year. AD Byrne said recently he supported Goff. Others are saying Byrne is looking for a proven winner and Goff will return unless he finds the right guy. 

We cannot get any worse. Next year has to be better.
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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2017, 09:20:38 AM »

Worst year I can ever remember. Our upgrade in facilities sure didn't do anything to improve the team.
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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2017, 10:37:56 AM »

It is finally over. The last game of the season ends in a 3-3 tie after a rain delay in the 8th. Bama had a 3-2 lead going into the bottom of the 8th. The tying run was scored on a balk.

This team was fundamentally bad. In the 7th we had a runner reach 3rd safely and then step off the base with the 3B still holding the ball and tag him out. Head Coach Goff is the 3B coach. A balk with a runner on 3rd in a 1 run game.

When you hear fundamentals you think of defensive errors. It is much more than that. Look at the numbers below. Opponents in ().

Errors:  61  (56)
Stolen Bases allowed 56 (27)
Pass Ball 21  (11)
Catcher Interference 3  (0)
Walks  260  (201)
Wild Pitches  88  (46) This is a Alabama and conference record.

Goff took over a team returning 6 of 8 position player starters. The only big loss was a very good defensive catcher in Will Haney. Two weekend starters and a decent bull pen. Pitching was going to be the strength of the team. A good but not great recruiting class that was mostly put together by CMG. On paper we should be better this year than last. Last year we went 32-26 and 15-15 in SEC play. Not good but respectable middle of the SEC. This year we are dead last with 19 total wins and 5 SEC wins. We were 7 games short of finishing in 12th place to make the SEC Tournament.

There has been a lot of talk about Goff being relieved at the end of the year. AD Byrne said recently he supported Goff. Others are saying Byrne is looking for a proven winner and Goff will return unless he finds the right guy. 

We cannot get any worse. Next year has to be better.



If fundamentals are that bad, then that is coaching, period. With those starters returning, we should have been better. I appreciate your info on the team and providing keen insights into what's going on.


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