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« on: September 14, 2011, 09:31:13 AM »

If necessary, creating a 13-member SEC football schedule for 2012 can be done by teams playing unequal numbers of division games, SEC Executive Associate Commissioner Mark Womack said Tuesday.

"You'd have to have some odd numbers in divisional play," Womack said. "Your schedule may look different where you don't play everybody in your division, but you'd still have a division concept."

Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division."

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 09:36:10 AM »

If necessary, creating a 13-member SEC football schedule for 2012 can be done by teams playing unequal numbers of division games, SEC Executive Associate Commissioner Mark Womack said Tuesday.

"You'd have to have some odd numbers in divisional play," Womack said. "Your schedule may look different where you don't play everybody in your division, but you'd still have a division concept."

Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division."

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This is a problem if he is right about that.  Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated.  Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west?
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 09:37:54 AM »

Can you say 'triskaidekaphobia' 13 times real fast, or do you have a fear of the number 13.

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 09:40:41 AM »

If necessary, creating a 13-member SEC football schedule for 2012 can be done by teams playing unequal numbers of division games, SEC Executive Associate Commissioner Mark Womack said Tuesday.

"You'd have to have some odd numbers in divisional play," Womack said. "Your schedule may look different where you don't play everybody in your division, but you'd still have a division concept."

Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division."

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This is a problem if he is right about that.  Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated.  Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west?

Alabama. The Crimson Tide always trumps LSU. What's a matter with you SC?
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 09:41:06 AM »

I guess expansion is necessary but the current 12 team alignment seems to work pretty good.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 09:48:34 AM »

Why cant they add a conference game, or take away one of the out of division games?  Is there an NCAA rule on that too?
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2011, 09:48:48 AM »


This is a problem if he is right about that.  Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated.  Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west?

I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with.  Ugh.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2011, 09:56:34 AM »

Why cant they add a conference game, or take away one of the out of division games?  Is there an NCAA rule on that too?

Isn't it unpossible to have unequal numbers in two divisions and everyone play and equal number of conference games (assuming that each team has to play everyone in their division)?  Adding a game doesn't solve the problem.

Taking away a division game creates some unwanted tiebreaker situations, as SuperCoach pointed out.

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2011, 10:00:44 AM »


This is a problem if he is right about that.  Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated.  Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west?

I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with.  Ugh.

They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2011, 10:09:19 AM »


This is a problem if he is right about that.  Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated.  Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west?

I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with.  Ugh.

They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. 

IMO we will get #14 or more. Oklahoma is exploring their options and the link below says FSU is forming a committee to look at realignment. I have to believe that Commissioner Slive and the SEC have talked to more schools and know more than they are letting the media know about.

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2011, 10:28:04 AM »


This is a problem if he is right about that.  Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated.  Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west?

I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with.  Ugh.

They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. 

IMO we will get #14 or more. Oklahoma is exploring their options and the link below says FSU is forming a committee to look at realignment. I have to believe that Commissioner Slive and the SEC have talked to more schools and know more than they are letting the media know about.

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Oklahoma is not joining the SEC. They wanted to join the PAC last year. FSU is a good possibility. I'd would rather see VT or Mizzoo.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2011, 10:29:19 AM »

What about 3 divisions with the Top 2 meeting in the SECCG? This would give every team alot more incentive to push for wins. RTR!
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2011, 10:36:41 AM »


This is a problem if he is right about that.  Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated.  Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west?

I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with.  Ugh.

They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. 

IMO we will get #14 or more. Oklahoma is exploring their options and the link below says FSU is forming a committee to look at realignment. I have to believe that Commissioner Slive and the SEC have talked to more schools and know more than they are letting the media know about.

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Oklahoma is not joining the SEC. They wanted to join the PAC last year. FSU is a good possibility. I'd would rather see VT or Mizzoo.

I agree with you about Oklahoma and I don't know about FSU. I mentioned these two schools to show that college football for all conferences is about to change.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2011, 10:40:24 AM »

What about 3 divisions with the Top 2 meeting in the SECCG? This would give every team alot more incentive to push for wins. RTR!

Current NCAA rules only allow two divisions.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2011, 10:55:55 AM »

Will Texas A&M automaticlly be given a week off before Bama plays them? Grin
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