*** Official CRS CFB Pick 'em DISCUSSION ***

[Jamos]

I think it is a good decision to do this, it's all about everybody having a good time. 

[SUPERCOACH]

What if we increase the number of e-creds for first place based on how many people you beat?  Last week we had 22 people participate, so Hannibal Lecter beat 21 people.  So maybe he should get 21 instead of 15.  Maybe then it kind of becomes contagious, with the prize increasing every time someone enters the contest for the week.

Hmmm... what if everybody got 1 e-cred for every person they beat?  Then as long as you don't come in last place you will get something.

Just thinking out loud.  What do you guys think?  If we can come up with a twist that makes it exciting to play each week even if you have never won, or if you didn't even play because you didn't know about it, then I think we will be onto something.  It would be cool if I could rig up a jackpot counter that shows how many e-creds are in the pot for 1st place.

[SUPERCOACH]

What if we increase the number of e-creds for first place based on how many people you beat?  Last week we had 22 people participate, so Hannibal Lecter beat 21 people.  So maybe he should get 21 instead of 15.  Maybe then it kind of becomes contagious, with the prize increasing every time someone enters the contest for the week.

Hmmm... what if everybody got 1 e-cred for every person they beat?  Then as long as you don't come in last place you will get something.

Just thinking out loud.  What do you guys think?  If we can come up with a twist that makes it exciting to play each week even if you have never won, or if you didn't even play because you didn't know about it, then I think we will be onto something.  It would be cool if I could rig up a jackpot counter that shows how many e-creds are in the pot for 1st place.

Of course something like this would have to be done automatically by the web site software.  It is just too much work to do manually every week.

[ssmith general]

I can email you the sheet after its updated each week if that helps.

[SUPERCOACH]

Thanks.  Hopefully I can get something automated going pretty soon.

I think I am going to start building us some pages to store all of this stuff in the database instead of a post.  Then I can pretty much do whatever I want with it.  If I can get that done pretty soon then we will have lots of options.

I also thought about a random prize that we award to someone who participated at the end of the year.  Each week that you enter your picks gives you one chance to win the random prize.  That way even if you come in last place every single week you can still win a big prize if you are the lucky one to win the random drawing.  The more weeks that you participate, the better your chances are at winning the random prize.

[Hannibal Lecter, MD]

What if we increase the number of e-creds for first place based on how many people you beat?  Last week we had 22 people participate, so Hannibal Lecter beat 21 people.  So maybe he should get 21 instead of 15.  Maybe then it kind of becomes contagious, with the prize increasing every time someone enters the contest for the week.

Hmmm... what if everybody got 1 e-cred for every person they beat?  Then as long as you don't come in last place you will get something.

Just thinking out loud.  What do you guys think?  If we can come up with a twist that makes it exciting to play each week even if you have never won, or if you didn't even play because you didn't know about it, then I think we will be onto something.  It would be cool if I could rig up a jackpot counter that shows how many e-creds are in the pot for 1st place.

Seems a little excessive.  Maybe if we get many more you start awarding top 5 instead of top 3 and up the for 1-3?

[SUPERCOACH]

Well I have most of the database work done for this now.  I have typed all of the data for week 1 into the database.  My SQL code correctly calculates the scores, matching the official results exactly.

I do have some questions about calculating the scores though.  What happens if the points are -10, and the margin of victory is exactly 10?  Let's take this week's UA @ Penn State game.  UA is favored to win by 10 points.  If I pick UA and the score is 20-10, is that pick considered right or wrong?  What if I picked Penn State, would that be considered right or wrong?  What happens in Vegas with this scenario?

Thanks.

[SUPERCOACH]

What if we increase the number of e-creds for first place based on how many people you beat?  Last week we had 22 people participate, so Hannibal Lecter beat 21 people.  So maybe he should get 21 instead of 15.  Maybe then it kind of becomes contagious, with the prize increasing every time someone enters the contest for the week.

Hmmm... what if everybody got 1 e-cred for every person they beat?  Then as long as you don't come in last place you will get something.

Just thinking out loud.  What do you guys think?  If we can come up with a twist that makes it exciting to play each week even if you have never won, or if you didn't even play because you didn't know about it, then I think we will be onto something.  It would be cool if I could rig up a jackpot counter that shows how many e-creds are in the pot for 1st place.

Seems a little excessive.  Maybe if we get many more you start awarding top 5 instead of top 3 and up the for 1-3?

Another idea.  Maybe we keep the scoring the way it is now, perhaps expanding to the top 5 or maybe some other minor tweaks, but then give everyone some e-creds each week they participate as soon as they post their picks.  What do you guys think about that?  I think it gives everyone a little incentive to participate all the way to the end even if they are coming in last place every week.

[ssmith general]

Well I have most of the database work done for this now.  I have typed all of the data for week 1 into the database.  My SQL code correctly calculates the scores, matching the official results exactly.

I do have some questions about calculating the scores though.  What happens if the points are -10, and the margin of victory is exactly 10?  Let's take this week's UA @ Penn State game.  UA is favored to win by 10 points.  If I pick UA and the score is 20-10, is that pick considered right or wrong?  What if I picked Penn State, would that be considered right or wrong?  What happens in Vegas with this scenario?

Thanks.

push is a no-bet.  We can either give 0.5 points or none since they cancel out anyway.

[Catch Prothro]

Miss State
Virginia Tech
Bama
TCU
USCe
BYU
Florida
Vandy
Utah
ND

102 yards

We can't edit these posts?

Anyway, I want to change my pick from BYU to Texas.  Don't know what I was thinking -- Texas should win by more than a touchdown -- BYU only had one offensive score against Ole Miss.

Also, change rushing yards to 92, which still might be high.

[ssmith general]

Miss State
Virginia Tech
Bama
TCU
USCe
BYU
Florida
Vandy
Utah
ND

102 yards

We can't edit these posts?

Anyway, I want to change my pick from BYU to Texas.  Don't know what I was thinking -- Texas should win by more than a touchdown -- BYU only had one offensive score against Ole Miss.

Also, change rushing yards to 92, which still might be high.

You dont see the 'modify' button?

[Catch Prothro]

You dont see the 'modify' button?

I do see "modify" for my posts from today, but not for my picks yesterday.

[ssmith general]

You dont see the 'modify' button?

I do see "modify" for my posts from today, but not for my picks yesterday.

That doesnt make any sense.

I'll change it for you.  Then these will go to the discussion thread.

[ssmith general]

Did someone sticky this thread or did I do it when I merged?

I unstickied it because I dont remember seeing it up there.

[Crimson Legend]

Thanks.  Hopefully I can get something automated going pretty soon.

I think I am going to start building us some pages to store all of this stuff in the database instead of a post.  Then I can pretty much do whatever I want with it.  If I can get that done pretty soon then we will have lots of options.

I also thought about a random prize that we award to someone who participated at the end of the year.  Each week that you enter your picks gives you one chance to win the random prize.  That way even if you come in last place every single week you can still win a big prize if you are the lucky one to win the random drawing.  The more weeks that you participate, the better your chances are at winning the random prize.

Awesome, prizes for last place.  That gives me something to shoot for.  Can we call this the Upward Pickem Game?

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