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« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2011, 10:27:19 PM »

Penn State-Alabama is what a college rivalry should be.  I wish they would play every year.
No Big Ten team wants to commit to that kind of exposure.

I loved the Penn State 10 year series in the 80's. I always looked forward to that game. We came out on top 6-4 I think. They cheated twice though so it was really 8-2.

I vividly remember the game where Bama scored a touchdown in the back of the end zone and they called the guy out of bounds.  Joey Jones was on that team, but he wasn't the guy that caught the ball.  He was standing right there when it happened though.  It was such an obvious touch down, even watching it live, that the TV announcers didn't know what to say when they called him out of bounds.  They struggled for a plausible excuse, but came up with nothing.  It was extremely disappointing as a kid to know that grown men had cheated Bama out of a victory.  Adults weren't supposed to cheat.  That game really opened my eyes for the first time as to how the world really works.


The ref who called our guy out-of-bounds was a Penn State grad. Two years later against Nebraska, the same ref called a Penn State receiver, who was obviously out-of-bounds, as being inbounds and scoring the winning TD against Nebraska. After these 2 fiascos, not even the NCAA could say there was no bias, so now a grad can not referee a game involving his alma mater.
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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2011, 10:48:03 PM »

Penn State-Alabama is what a college rivalry should be.  I wish they would play every year.
No Big Ten team wants to commit to that kind of exposure.

I loved the Penn State 10 year series in the 80's. I always looked forward to that game. We came out on top 6-4 I think. They cheated twice though so it was really 8-2.

I vividly remember the game where Bama scored a touchdown in the back of the end zone and they called the guy out of bounds.  Joey Jones was on that team, but he wasn't the guy that caught the ball.  He was standing right there when it happened though.  It was such an obvious touch down, even watching it live, that the TV announcers didn't know what to say when they called him out of bounds.  They struggled for a plausible excuse, but came up with nothing.  It was extremely disappointing as a kid to know that grown men had cheated Bama out of a victory.  Adults weren't supposed to cheat.  That game really opened my eyes for the first time as to how the world really works.


The ref who called our guy out-of-bounds was a Penn State grad. Two years later against Nebraska, the same ref called a Penn State receiver, who was obviously out-of-bounds, as being inbounds and scoring the winning TD against Nebraska. After these 2 fiascos, not even the NCAA could say there was no bias, so now a grad can not referee a game involving his alma mater.

Interesting.  I did not know that.  It certainly explains a lot.
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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2011, 11:33:40 PM »

Penn State-Alabama is what a college rivalry should be.  I wish they would play every year.
No Big Ten team wants to commit to that kind of exposure.

I loved the Penn State 10 year series in the 80's. I always looked forward to that game. We came out on top 6-4 I think. They cheated twice though so it was really 8-2.

I vividly remember the game where Bama scored a touchdown in the back of the end zone and they called the guy out of bounds.  Joey Jones was on that team, but he wasn't the guy that caught the ball.  He was standing right there when it happened though.  It was such an obvious touch down, even watching it live, that the TV announcers didn't know what to say when they called him out of bounds.  They struggled for a plausible excuse, but came up with nothing.  It was extremely disappointing as a kid to know that grown men had cheated Bama out of a victory.  Adults weren't supposed to cheat.  That game really opened my eyes for the first time as to how the world really works.


The ref who called our guy out-of-bounds was a Penn State grad. Two years later against Nebraska, the same ref called a Penn State receiver, who was obviously out-of-bounds, as being inbounds and scoring the winning TD against Nebraska. After these 2 fiascos, not even the NCAA could say there was no bias, so now a grad can not referee a game involving his alma mater.

Interesting.  I did not know that.  It certainly explains a lot.


I think either Sports Illustrated of some other magazine did a story on it. This would have been when you, and most of the other posters, were a snot-nosed kids and wouldn't have read about it.

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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2011, 12:22:53 AM »

I was 11 at the time of that game.
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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2011, 03:46:29 AM »

I was 11 at the time of that game.

I was working in Louisiana then.  It was 1983 (I had to look it up).  Neither team ended up nationally relevant that year, but it was still a classic. Alabama fought back from a 34-7 deficit to 34-28. Alabama’s Preston Gothard caught the apparent touchdown pass with seconds remaining.  His feet were both in bounds and his hip landed across the back of the end zone when he fell.

That was the second worst call by a ref in an Alabama game that I ever saw.  The first was against Tennessee in Birmingham (1971).  Anybody remember that one?
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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2011, 07:00:26 AM »

I was 11 at the time of that game.

I was working in Louisiana then.  It was 1983 (I had to look it up).  Neither team ended up nationally relevant that year, but it was still a classic. Alabama fought back from a 34-7 deficit to 34-28. Alabama’s Preston Gothard caught the apparent touchdown pass with seconds remaining.  His feet were both in bounds and his hip landed across the back of the end zone when he fell.

That was the second worst call by a ref in an Alabama game that I ever saw.  The first was against Tennessee in Birmingham (1971).  Anybody remember that one?

I don't remember the Tenn call in 1971. We won 32-15 so that makes a bad call easier to take. A bad call I remember is the 73 (72 Season) Cotton Bowl against Texas. We lost 17-13. Texas scored on a long run and the replay showed the ball carrier stepped about a yard out of bounds to avoid a tackle.
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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2011, 01:35:33 PM »

Don't forget the '65 Orange Bowl when Namath's TD was ruled no good and we "lost" to the Longhorns.
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« Reply #37 on: July 31, 2011, 01:39:16 PM »

Don't forget the '65 Orange Bowl when Namath's TD was ruled no good and we "lost" to the Longhorns.

This is the one I remember the most. No doubt a terrible call.
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2011, 05:50:53 AM »

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2011, 06:09:43 AM »

I was 11 at the time of that game.

I was working in Louisiana then.  It was 1983 (I had to look it up).  Neither team ended up nationally relevant that year, but it was still a classic. Alabama fought back from a 34-7 deficit to 34-28. Alabama’s Preston Gothard caught the apparent touchdown pass with seconds remaining.  His feet were both in bounds and his hip landed across the back of the end zone when he fell.

That was the second worst call by a ref in an Alabama game that I ever saw.  The first was against Tennessee in Birmingham (1971).  Anybody remember that one?

I don't remember the Tenn call in 1971. We won 32-15 so that makes a bad call easier to take. A bad call I remember is the 73 (72 Season) Cotton Bowl against Texas. We lost 17-13. Texas scored on a long run and the replay showed the ball carrier stepped about a yard out of bounds to avoid a tackle.

The most terrible call I ever saw at a Bama game:

Legion Field.  Alabama kicked off through the south end zone to start the game.  The field was Astroturf (painted lines).  Tennessee ran 3 plays.  The 3rd play made it to the 30-yard line.  After the official placed the ball, it clearly straddled the 30-yard line.  At first the refs signaled first down, then Coach Bryant walked out onto the field and called for a measurement.  The ball was astride the 30.  Bill Battle (UT Coach) walked out from his side of the field.  The chains were stretched, the official bent down and checked, then he turned to Coach Battle and signaled "Inches to go".  Coach Battled walked farther out to confront the officials.  A flag was thrown, and Battle was escorted back to the sidelines.  Then UT was penalized 15 yards, back to the 15 yard line.  They punted from there to almost midfield.  Alabama scored soon after, and the rout was on.

Anybody else remember?
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2011, 01:30:49 PM »

I was 11 at the time of that game.

I was working in Louisiana then.  It was 1983 (I had to look it up).  Neither team ended up nationally relevant that year, but it was still a classic. Alabama fought back from a 34-7 deficit to 34-28. Alabama’s Preston Gothard caught the apparent touchdown pass with seconds remaining.  His feet were both in bounds and his hip landed across the back of the end zone when he fell.

That was the second worst call by a ref in an Alabama game that I ever saw.  The first was against Tennessee in Birmingham (1971).  Anybody remember that one?

I don't remember the Tenn call in 1971. We won 32-15 so that makes a bad call easier to take. A bad call I remember is the 73 (72 Season) Cotton Bowl against Texas. We lost 17-13. Texas scored on a long run and the replay showed the ball carrier stepped about a yard out of bounds to avoid a tackle.

The most terrible call I ever saw at a Bama game:

Legion Field.  Alabama kicked off through the south end zone to start the game.  The field was Astroturf (painted lines).  Tennessee ran 3 plays.  The 3rd play made it to the 30-yard line.  After the official placed the ball, it clearly straddled the 30-yard line.  At first the refs signaled first down, then Coach Bryant walked out onto the field and called for a measurement.  The ball was astride the 30.  Bill Battle (UT Coach) walked out from his side of the field.  The chains were stretched, the official bent down and checked, then he turned to Coach Battle and signaled "Inches to go".  Coach Battled walked farther out to confront the officials.  A flag was thrown, and Battle was escorted back to the sidelines.  Then UT was penalized 15 yards, back to the 15 yard line.  They punted from there to almost midfield.  Alabama scored soon after, and the rout was on.

Anybody else remember?

Let's rename that the "best" call you ever saw.
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2011, 02:42:25 PM »

I was 11 at the time of that game.

I was working in Louisiana then.  It was 1983 (I had to look it up).  Neither team ended up nationally relevant that year, but it was still a classic. Alabama fought back from a 34-7 deficit to 34-28. Alabama’s Preston Gothard caught the apparent touchdown pass with seconds remaining.  His feet were both in bounds and his hip landed across the back of the end zone when he fell.

That was the second worst call by a ref in an Alabama game that I ever saw.  The first was against Tennessee in Birmingham (1971).  Anybody remember that one?

I don't remember the Tenn call in 1971. We won 32-15 so that makes a bad call easier to take. A bad call I remember is the 73 (72 Season) Cotton Bowl against Texas. We lost 17-13. Texas scored on a long run and the replay showed the ball carrier stepped about a yard out of bounds to avoid a tackle.

The most terrible call I ever saw at a Bama game:

Legion Field.  Alabama kicked off through the south end zone to start the game.  The field was Astroturf (painted lines).  Tennessee ran 3 plays.  The 3rd play made it to the 30-yard line.  After the official placed the ball, it clearly straddled the 30-yard line.  At first the refs signaled first down, then Coach Bryant walked out onto the field and called for a measurement.  The ball was astride the 30.  Bill Battle (UT Coach) walked out from his side of the field.  The chains were stretched, the official bent down and checked, then he turned to Coach Battle and signaled "Inches to go".  Coach Battled walked farther out to confront the officials.  A flag was thrown, and Battle was escorted back to the sidelines.  Then UT was penalized 15 yards, back to the 15 yard line.  They punted from there to almost midfield.  Alabama scored soon after, and the rout was on.

Anybody else remember?

Let's rename that the "best" call you ever saw.

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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2011, 03:43:58 PM »

I was 11 at the time of that game.

I was working in Louisiana then.  It was 1983 (I had to look it up).  Neither team ended up nationally relevant that year, but it was still a classic. Alabama fought back from a 34-7 deficit to 34-28. Alabama’s Preston Gothard caught the apparent touchdown pass with seconds remaining.  His feet were both in bounds and his hip landed across the back of the end zone when he fell.

That was the second worst call by a ref in an Alabama game that I ever saw.  The first was against Tennessee in Birmingham (1971).  Anybody remember that one?
I was living in Louisiana in 1983. I didn't see you?
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