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« on: July 25, 2011, 09:06:58 PM »
How can Davis survive this without UNC getting totally hammered by the NCAA?



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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2011, 09:16:40 PM »
Quote from: Marshal Dillon on July 25, 2011, 09:06:58 PM
How can Davis survive this without UNC getting totally hammered by the NCAA?



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I posted last fall ( and I think you agreed Huh?) that CBD had completely lost control of that program.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2011, 09:27:08 PM »
My son is there in Chapel Hill.  UNC is in major trouble.  They had all kinds of academic issues on top of the recruiting stuff.  I don't see how he'll survive, and can't understand why he's still there today.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2011, 09:46:36 PM »
Butch is probably still there because until the  NCAA mess is settled, i.e. NC's future situation is known, no attractive coaching candidate would go near the job.  So why get rid of Butch?  Let him suffer through with the rest of the NC admin.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2011, 09:53:16 PM »
Quote from: McBaman on July 25, 2011, 09:46:36 PM
Butch is probably still there because until the  NCAA mess is settled, i.e. NC's future situation is known, no attractive coaching candidate would go near the job.  So why get rid of Butch?  Let him suffer through with the rest of the NC admin.
+1 No real criticism that Davis was anything but GOOD for UNC on a strictly on the field critique. He recruited well and was a great coach, if you take away the rule violations and general PR nightmare. So leaving him in pacle as long as possible doesn't hurt the program.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2011, 10:14:08 PM »
Quote from: Chechem on July 25, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
My son is there in Chapel Hill.  UNC is in major trouble.  They had all kinds of academic issues on top of the recruiting stuff.  I don't see how he'll survive, and can't understand why he's still there today.


Agree. Plus, UNC sees themself as above-the-fray and somewhat snobbish, kinda like Michigan. They think of themselves as an Ivy League type academically.
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 05:23:01 AM »
Quote from: Marshal Dillon on July 25, 2011, 10:14:08 PM
Quote from: Chechem on July 25, 2011, 09:27:08 PM
My son is there in Chapel Hill.  UNC is in major trouble.  They had all kinds of academic issues on top of the recruiting stuff.  I don't see how he'll survive, and can't understand why he's still there today.


Agree. Plus, UNC sees themself as above-the-fray and somewhat snobbish, kinda like Michigan. They think of themselves as an Ivy League type academically.

Hmmm.  I've never experienced that attitude there.  The administration at UNC now is embarrassed by this mess and want it erased.  That's why I see a clean sweep; faculty, administration, coaches, and players involved will be dismissed.  I'm surprised it hasn't started yet.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 06:23:56 AM »
How long has CBD been at UNC? As bad as this sounds, it had to be in place before he got there. I'm sure everyone remembers CBD was Mal's main target at one time. I like him and if he is involved I would be disapointed.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 06:53:10 AM »
College football is one big mess! Who do we blame for all of what is happening?
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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 07:35:18 AM »
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College football is one big mess! Who do we blame for all of what is happening?
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 07:36:24 AM »
Quote from: td57 on July 26, 2011, 06:23:56 AM
How long has CBD been at UNC? As bad as this sounds, it had to be in place before he got there. I'm sure everyone remembers CBD was Mal's main target at one time. I like him and if he is involved I would be disapointed.

Just a few years (4).  Recall, his predecessor (3 coaches back) went to UTexas.  Maybe that's where they went wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 08:31:32 AM »
Quote from: 2Stater on July 26, 2011, 07:35:18 AM
Quote from: Jamos on July 26, 2011, 06:53:10 AM
College football is one big mess! Who do we blame for all of what is happening?



I understand it's money but who or what is lacking to turn this mess around. Is it too many rules or is it the lack of enforcement of the rules that are in place or maybe it's the wrong kind of rules to slow this runaway train down.

Could it even be the social media side of it? Every day on most of the message boards there are folks accusing someone or spreading false rumors to get the other in trouble, is this good for college sports.

We all dislike the NCAA for various reasons but think about all of the accusations they must get from sportsfans accusing someone of a wrong doing. So much of it is nothing but hear say or half truths but still the NCAA has to use their time to sort this stuff out which in return causes their investigations to take so long.

I love college sports but somewherre and somehow, someone had better get a grip on this or we're going to lose what so many of us love so much.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 07:11:48 PM »
Well said Jamos.  Well said.
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2011, 07:44:48 PM »
Great post Jamos.  I made the dollar a little smaller and put it on the home page.

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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2011, 09:06:36 PM »
All NCAA-UNC trouble started because of a tweet from Marvin Austin last year.?

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