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« on: July 12, 2011, 04:21:20 PM »

This franchise has never drawn good crowds.



After a good start the Marlins have plummeted to last place in the NL East at 43-48 and rank dead last among MLB teams in attendance with 17,101 per game.


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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 04:43:08 PM »

Someone's gotta be last...
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2011, 04:53:59 PM »

Big money! RTR!
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2011, 05:11:31 PM »

Someone's gotta be last...


They're not serious about their baseball. The stadium sucks and the owner won't spend the money to keep or go get good players. However, there is some faint hope, per Wiki:

[/coIn recent years, the Marlins ownership pushed for a new stadium and recently agreed to a plan with Miami-Dade County commissioners and the city of Miami to build a $515 million ballpark on the site where the legendary Miami Orange Bowl once stood. As part of the deal, the Marlins will, when their new ballpark opens in 2012, be known as the "Miami Marlins."[1] According to Forbes Magazine in 2011 the value of the franchise is $360 million.[2]lor]

When completed, the seating capacity will be around 37,000, making it the third smallest stadium (in capacity) in the MLB. Set to open in April 2012, the ballpark would become only the sixth MLB stadium to have a retractable roof, joining Rogers Centre in Toronto (1989), Chase Field in Phoenix (1998), Safeco Field in Seattle (1999), Minute Maid Park in Houston (2000), and Miller Park in Milwaukee (2001).
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 06:08:01 PM »

Someone's gotta be last...


They're not serious about their baseball. The stadium sucks and the owner won't spend the money to keep or go get good players. However, there is some faint hope, per Wiki:

[/coIn recent years, the Marlins ownership pushed for a new stadium and recently agreed to a plan with Miami-Dade County commissioners and the city of Miami to build a $515 million ballpark on the site where the legendary Miami Orange Bowl once stood. As part of the deal, the Marlins will, when their new ballpark opens in 2012, be known as the "Miami Marlins."[1] According to Forbes Magazine in 2011 the value of the franchise is $360 million.[2]lor]

When completed, the seating capacity will be around 37,000, making it the third smallest stadium (in capacity) in the MLB. Set to open in April 2012, the ballpark would become only the sixth MLB stadium to have a retractable roof, joining Rogers Centre in Toronto (1989), Chase Field in Phoenix (1998), Safeco Field in Seattle (1999), Minute Maid Park in Houston (2000), and Miller Park in Milwaukee (2001).


It may be a nice stadium, but if the product on the field is still well below average they still won't come. Just look at Nationals Park in D.C. if you need further proof than this.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 06:50:40 PM »

Marlins have won 2 world series in the last 14 years ('97, '03).
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 07:35:49 PM »

Marlins have won 2 world series in the last 14 years ('97, '03).


Then immediately traded and/or sold all the good players. Also, since 1998, they have finished between 13th to 16th (out of 16) in attendance in the National League. Maybe a new stadium will energize the fanbase, but they still have to have good teams.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 09:54:47 PM »

Hey, here's an idea. Let's spend $515 million dollars and downsize the park to compensate for crummy attendance for a crummy team. Waddya think?
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 10:04:54 PM »

You would think that with all the retired yankees in Miami baseball would do better, but no. 

 Huh?
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 10:11:23 PM »

You would think that with all the retired yankees in Miami baseball would do better, but no. 

 Huh?

When I was a kid living in Ft. Lauderdale, there were the "Ft. Lauderdale Suns" and the "Miami Marlins" minor league baseball teams. It was huge back then. I guess things have changed a bit.
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2011, 08:11:58 AM »

You would think that with all the retired yankees in Miami baseball would do better, but no. 

 Huh?

When I was a kid living in Ft. Lauderdale, there were the "Ft. Lauderdale Suns" and the "Miami Marlins" minor league baseball teams. It was huge back then. I guess things have changed a bit.

When I was a kid we went to Birmingham A's games all the time. My Dad could take me to the game and park, get tickets, cokes, peanuts all for under $15. Even minor league games are expensive now. That was great entertainment. There was three TV channels and one baseball game per week called "The Game of the Week" on Saturday afternoon. Cable came around a few years later and TBS was carring the Braves almost everyday. ESPN then started carring games and now you can get 2 or 3 games everynight. You can even get the MLB package and get every game. So I would agree things have changed.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2011, 08:53:35 AM »

South Florida traditionally doesn't support its teams well.  The Rays are putting a good product on the field, yet have been  23rd, 22nd, and 29th (currently) the last three years.  They just went to the World Series in '08, a year in which they finished 26th in attendance.

The year the Marlins last won the World Series ('03), they were 28th in attendance, averaging 1k less than they are this year!  Guess who was behind them in 29th?  Yep, the Rays.  Winning the series bumped the Marlins all the way up to 26th in '04.

When the U was in its heyday in college football, they couldn't sell 3/4 of their tickets.
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2011, 09:06:38 AM »

Because all the cubaricans would go to protesting if you move them. It keeps people coming to games for pick-pocketers. RTR!
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2011, 09:09:51 AM »

Marlins have won 2 world series in the last 14 years ('97, '03).


Then immediately traded and/or sold all the good players. Also, since 1998, they have finished betwen 13th to 16th (out of 16) in attendance in the National League. Maybe a new stadium will energize the fanbase, but they still have to have good teams.

3 other teams have won 2 or more WS in the last 20 years [Toronto (92,93), Boston (04,07), and New York (98,99,00,09)].
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2011, 02:02:24 PM »

You have to go back 30 years to find another national league team with 2 WS titles [Los Angeles (81,88), St. Louis (82,06)].
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