NCAA announces "unprecedented" penalties against Penn St - updated

[ALTideUp]

I think it's a little light, actually.

[cbbama99]

I think it's a little light, actually.

Perhaps, but it is still a pretty stinging rebuke from the NCAA. I never expected the death penalty, but I also thought it would be lighter than this. Four year post season ban and the loss of all those wins was much harsher than I had expected. The scholly losses were right about what I thought. Hope PSU fans are bracing for some losses to Indiana and Purdue over the next several years.

[Catch Prothro]

I guess the $60 million is the "unprecedented" part.  But no appeal: 

Penn State has already agreed to not fight the sanctions.

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[carl childers]

Happy Valley at 8:10 AM...

[Marshal Dillon]

Penn State Football All Time Record on Sunday 7-22-2012: 828-361-43 (.690 percentage)

All Time Record as of Monday 7-23-2012: 716-361-43

Penn State drops from #7 in all-time wins to #16, just ahead of Auburn.   

[Catch Prothro]

I think it's a little light, actually.

I think about the only other thing left was the death penalty.

[carl childers]

I think it's a little light, actually.

I think about the only other thing left was the death penalty.

I think the death penalty would be less damaging than what happened today.

[bama87]

I think it's a little light, actually.

I think about the only other thing left was the death penalty.

I think the death penalty would be less damaging than what happened today.

I think you are right. Remember all the scholly we lost and what it did to our program. PSU will feel this 10-15 years down the road. By the time this is over they will have 45-55 scholly players. But I think it would be unfair to to current players to suspend play this year. They didn't do anything wrong. They can at least look forward to playing on Saturdays.

[Chechem]

The Big 10 just became even weaker as a conference, and the schedules of each team just became less difficult.  PSU will be a weakling for several years to come.

Could it affect power ratings and potential for BCS or Final-4 decisions?  Likely...

[cbbama99]

I think it's a little light, actually.

I think about the only other thing left was the death penalty.

I think the death penalty would be less damaging than what happened today.

That's the exact point that Dan Wetzel made:

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[Old Tider]

I agree the school deserves harsh penalties, but I never agree with taking away wins. Unless they were won with illegal players.

[Catch Prothro]

I think it's a little light, actually.

I think about the only other thing left was the death penalty.

I think the death penalty would be less damaging than what happened today.

I think you are right. Remember all the scholly we lost and what it did to our program. PSU will feel this 10-15 years down the road. By the time this is over they will have 45-55 scholly players. But I think it would be unfair to to current players to suspend play this year. They didn't do anything wrong. They can at least look forward to playing on Saturdays.

SMU got the death penalty in 1987.  They only had one winning season over the next 20 years.  SMU previously had posted a record of 45-5-1 from 1980–1984, which was the highest win percentage (0.892) in Division 1-A over that span.  SMU did not make a bowl game after the sanctions until 2009 when it played Nevada in the Hawaii Bowl.   SMU was in the Southwest Conference, but did not receive an invitation to join what is now the Big12, so ended up in the WAC, then Conference USA, and finally the Big East next year.  The NCAA has not used this punishment since.

So I do feel that the death penalty would have a bigger impact than scholarship reductions and bowl bans on a team's ability for future success, especially since these other sanctions accompanied SMU's punishment, and also likely would be included with the death penalty. 

Still, we likely won't see PSU return to prominence in the next few decades, if ever.  While these other types of sanctions have not decimated a school's football program to the same extent as the death penalty (USC doesn't seem to have missed a beat, Miami mostly came back, and Bama is on top of the college football world right now), the Big12 is also looking into sanctions.  PSU's conference affiliation might be in jeopardy, now or in the future, and that could be the final blow.

[SUPERCOACH]

The Paterno family statement infuriates me:

 

The sanctions announced by the NCAA today defame the legacy and contributions of a great coach and educator without any input from our family or those who knew him best.

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Yeah, it was clearly the NCAA sanctions that defame his legacy.  The fact that he knowingly covered up for a child molester had no impact on his legacy.  Why should anybody seek "input" from the guilty?  Imagine asking Sandusky for his "input" on his sentence.

[XBAMA]

The Paterno family statement infuriates me:

 

The sanctions announced by the NCAA today defame the legacy and contributions of a great coach and educator without any input from our family or those who knew him best.

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Yeah, it was clearly the NCAA sanctions that defame his legacy.  The fact that he knowingly covered up for a child molester had no impact on his legacy.  Why should anybody seek "input" from the guilty?  Imagine asking Sandusky for his "input" on his sentence.

yep SC , sure would like to send them this ....

[pmull]

The Paterno family statement infuriates me:

 

The sanctions announced by the NCAA today defame the legacy and contributions of a great coach and educator without any input from our family or those who knew him best.

Click here for link

Yeah, it was clearly the NCAA sanctions that defame his legacy.  The fact that he knowingly covered up for a child molester had no impact on his legacy.  Why should anybody seek "input" from the guilty?  Imagine asking Sandusky for his "input" on his sentence.

 

I don't ever want to hear Paterno's name again. His family needs to shut up and go away. They are making him look even worse if that is possible.

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