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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2022, 09:33:42 AM »

While we're on rules, I'll add info about a situation that RE and I were discussing last week.

Did you know this (I think I've got it right)? 

A receiver crosses the field near the goalline and catches the ball at the sidelines.  The ball is outside the sidelines and never crosses the goalline, but the receiver swings his feet across the goalline and steps OB just across the goal.  His feet were over the endzone, but never touched down.  The receiver never touched inside the endzone or touched the pylon.  He's ruled OB at the 1 yard line (or wherever he caught the ball).

If his foot touches the pylon, it's a TD (as long as the other foot was not OB).  If his foot touches inside the endzone, it's a TD, even if the ball never crossed the goalline.


The ball must cross the goal line is my understanding. This is what I found regarding the NCAA rules.

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I. Ball carrier A1, while attempting to score, strikes the pylon located on the right intersection of the goal line and sideline with his foot. He is carrying the ball in his right arm, which is extended over the sideline. RULING: Whether or not a touchdown is scored depends on the forward progress of the ball as related to the goal line when the ball becomes dead by rule (Rules 4-2-4-d and 5-1-3-a).
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2022, 09:41:28 AM »

While we're on rules, I'll add info about a situation that RE and I were discussing last week.

Did you know this (I think I've got it right)? 

A receiver crosses the field near the goalline and catches the ball at the sidelines.  The ball is outside the sidelines and never crosses the goalline, but the receiver swings his feet across the goalline and steps OB just across the goal.  His feet were over the endzone, but never touched down.  The receiver never touched inside the endzone or touched the pylon.  He's ruled OB at the 1 yard line (or wherever he caught the ball).

If his foot touches the pylon, it's a TD (as long as the other foot was not OB).  If his foot touches inside the endzone, it's a TD, even if the ball never crossed the goalline.


The ball must cross the goal line is my understanding. This is what I found regarding the NCAA rules.

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Approved Ruling 8-2-1
I. Ball carrier A1, while attempting to score, strikes the pylon located on the right intersection of the goal line and sideline with his foot. He is carrying the ball in his right arm, which is extended over the sideline. RULING: Whether or not a touchdown is scored depends on the forward progress of the ball as related to the goal line when the ball becomes dead by rule (Rules 4-2-4-d and 5-1-3-a).

Wow thanks pmull for all the numbers sub spots. RTR!
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2022, 11:06:26 AM »

On the punt, touching by the receiving team makes the ball live beyond the expanded neutral zone. So, let's say the punt hits a member of the receiving team 5 yds past the LOS - it is live. However, if it hits the R team at the LOS, then the touching is ignored.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2022, 11:10:08 AM »

For the goal line play, if the ball carrier doesn't have feet inbounds when the ball crosses the goal, then it has to be the judgment of the official if he crossed the goal inbounds or not. Keep in mind there is the goal line extended - if a ball carrier has feet inbounds but has possession of the ball past the goal line, even if the ball is outside the playing field it is a TD.
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2022, 11:14:22 AM »

For the goal line play, if the ball carrier doesn't have feet inbounds when the ball crosses the goal, then it has to be the judgment of the official if he crossed the goal inbounds or not. Keep in mind there is the goal line extended - if a ball carrier has feet inbounds but has possession of the ball past the goal line, even if the ball is outside the playing field it is a TD.

Thanks for these explanations. It sounds more in our favor now, lol. RTR!
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« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2022, 05:42:44 AM »

For the goal line play, if the ball carrier doesn't have feet inbounds when the ball crosses the goal, then it has to be the judgment of the official if he crossed the goal inbounds or not. Keep in mind there is the goal line extended - if a ball carrier has feet inbounds but has possession of the ball past the goal line, even if the ball is outside the playing field it is a TD.

Thanks for these explanations. It sounds more in our favor now, lol. RTR!

Thanks for the clarifications, guys.  It's a dicey situation right at the goalline.  And fumbles right there can be a real mess.
 
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2022, 06:35:54 AM »

Well good morning getting an early start today. RTR!
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