Sunday Morning CRS Coach's Corner: Game 3

[Jamos]

I just don't understand the call of the QB not considered across the line of scrimmage on the touchdown that beat us. If a player puts any part of his body across the line of scrimmage on the snap of the ball is he not considered across the line of scrimmage and off sides. Well what is the difference when they are running the ball and cross that same plane, is it not the same principle when any part of the body has crossed that plane. To me this is one more of the NCAA rules that has an unnecessary twist to it that only complicates the game even more than it is.

[ricky023]

Ouch!  Expect more of this, folks.

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Hey OT I couldn't get the link to open. RTR!

[Old Tider]

Ouch!  Expect more of this, folks.

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Hey OT I couldn't get the link to open. RTR!

Sorry, Preacher. I just opened it above on your message. Give your computer a kick or two.  The article says Saban has lost his touch since our last lost to Auburn.

[McBaman]

I just don't understand the call of the QB not considered across the line of scrimmage on the touchdown that beat us. If a player puts any part of his body across the line of scrimmage on the snap of the ball is he not considered across the line of scrimmage and off sides. Well what is the difference when they are running the ball and cross that same plane, is it not the same principle when any part of the body has crossed that plane. To me this is one more of the NCAA rules that has an unnecessary twist to it that only complicates the game even more than it is.

I'm with you on this one j.  I saw the same rule applied in the Barn game and thought that was nuts too.  Very inconsistent between the rules.  A lineman puts his nose in the neutral zone and it's a penalty.  But the QB only has his dangling foot behind the line and it's OK?  Crazy.

I'm guessing (hoping) this gets addressed in the off season.

[ricky023]

Ouch!  Expect more of this, folks.

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Hey OT I couldn't get the link to open. RTR!

Sorry, Preacher. I just opened it above on your message. Give your computer a kick or two.  The article says Saban has lost his touch since our last lost to Auburn.

I wonder if this could light a fire back in the team now. If the Forbes are getting in on Alabama football. RTR!

[ricky023]

Wow, Old Tider I went to the Forbes site and found it. They think CNS lost his juice when Davis run the auburn field goal miss back to win the game. How in the world does this make sense? But, as you said you will see more of this, well if we are not winning NC games then the whole world is disappointed. Everybody expects us to win them, well I have to admit I like to win them also. I know we are going to lose games we are not perfect, I don't think anybody in the SEc is although I may be mistaken. Our SR. Pastor this morning was preaching and talking about CNS using the GD word on TV. This will not condone but I didn't see it so I can't argue. RTR!

[pmull]

I hope we never play another 8:15 game. Jamos got home early compared to me. It was 2:15 when I got to Homewood to drop my daughter off at her apartment. It was so late I crashed on her sofa until about 7:30 this morning and finally made it back to Decatur about 9:30 this morning.

It was HOT. It was terrible walking around the Quad and tailgating all day with temperatures in the 90's.  The temperature was not bad at kickoff but it was very humid and no breeze at all. It seemed worst to me than an afternoon game with temps in the 90's.

Give Ole Miss a little credit for the win. They are a solid football team in all three phases of the game. Still they should not have beat us. The only way they could beat us was if they get a few breaks and we turn the ball over. We all know what happened.

We won most of the stat lines except the important turnover stat. We turned it over 5 times to Ole Miss 0. I think they got 24 points off of our mistakes. There were positives in the game. We had 29 1st downs to their 16. Ole Miss only converted 4-14 3rd downs for 29%. We converted 55%. We had 503 total yards to their 433 with 143 of their yards coming on freak plays. We only punted 2 times. Ole Miss had the ball 24:34 minutes to our 35:26.

We should all remember that the season is not over. We lost to Ole Miss last year and still won the SEC and made it to the 4 team playoff. If we learn from this lost and clean up our mistakes we can do it again this year. There is no quit in this team. There were times last night when Ole Miss had all the momentum and a big lead but we found back almost put this game, when nothing went right for us, in the win column. There is not a team on our schedule that is looking forward to playing us.

[hscoach]

I have been seeing, other places, about the fall of the Bama dynasty.  This could be further from the truth.  Bama gave a game away.  It will be up to the coaches and players to decide if they want it enough.  LSU will beat OM and it should come down to the Bama/LSU game to determine the West Champion.

[roll tide roll]

Bama lost the game because (1) lucky bounces and (2) five turnovers.  It was nice to see the team fight back.  I hope they learn from this game.

100% agree.

Is there a Lane Kiffin jinx?

I do not think Coach Bryant would be happy with a former ut head coach at BAMA.

I've seen brilliant play calling....

I have always thought he was average at best.

Hugh Freeze said he wasn't changing who Ole Miss is for Bama.)  Bama may have done that on offense v. Ole Miss.

That is exactly what occurred last night.  Bateman is proof.

why insert a zone read option (but then never use it for a QB run)

This is what makes no sense.

[N.AL-Tider]

I have been seeing, other places, about the fall of the Bama dynasty.  This could be further from the truth.  Bama gave a game away.  It will be up to the coaches and players to decide if they want it enough.  LSU will beat OM and it should come down to the Bama/LSU game to determine the West Champion.

We are going to need more help than just LSU beating OM.  OM has to lose 2 conference games for us to get back to Atlanta...

[Marshal Dillon]

I have been seeing, other places, about the fall of the Bama dynasty.  This could be further from the truth.  Bama gave a game away.  It will be up to the coaches and players to decide if they want it enough.  LSU will beat OM and it should come down to the Bama/LSU game to determine the West Champion.

We are going to need more help than just LSU beating OM.  OM has to lose 2 conference games for us to get back to Atlanta...

                                                   

[N.AL-Tider]

I have been seeing, other places, about the fall of the Bama dynasty.  This could be further from the truth.  Bama gave a game away.  It will be up to the coaches and players to decide if they want it enough.  LSU will beat OM and it should come down to the Bama/LSU game to determine the West Champion.

We are going to need more help than just LSU beating OM.  OM has to lose 2 conference games for us to get back to Atlanta...

                                                    

Nice theory that would have worked if we were still undefeated.  We DO NOT control our own destiny now and just winning all of our games from here on is not enough.

[SUPERCOACH]

Wow, Old Tider I went to the Forbes site and found it. They think CNS lost his juice when Davis run the auburn field goal miss back to win the game. How in the world does this make sense? But, as you said you will see more of this, well if we are not winning NC games then the whole world is disappointed. Everybody expects us to win them, well I have to admit I like to win them also. I know we are going to lose games we are not perfect, I don't think anybody in the SEc is although I may be mistaken. Our SR. Pastor this morning was preaching and talking about CNS using the GD word on TV. This will not condone but I didn't see it so I can't argue. RTR!

I saw it.  It happened when the ball bounced off the DB's head and they scored the TD.

[pmull]

I have been seeing, other places, about the fall of the Bama dynasty.  This could be further from the truth.  Bama gave a game away.  It will be up to the coaches and players to decide if they want it enough.  LSU will beat OM and it should come down to the Bama/LSU game to determine the West Champion.

We are going to need more help than just LSU beating OM.  OM has to lose 2 conference games for us to get back to Atlanta...

                                                    

Nice theory that would have worked if we were still undefeated.  We DO NOT control our own destiny now and just winning all of our games from here on is not enough.

We can only control our schedule. If we win out good things will come to this team regardless of what Ole Miss does the rest of the season. If Ole Miss wins the SEC undefeated or with 1 loss they will make the playoff. We can clean up our mistakes and go undefeated the rest of the way there is a good change we will also make the playoff. Worst case at 11-1 for Alabama we miss the playoff and go to a major bowl. I can live with going 12-1 and our only loss to a playoff team early in the season.

Just win baby!

[Catch Prothro]

My take on the QB rule for being over the line of scrimmage is that they should change that rule to make it more consistent with all of the other football rules.  The rule should be if the ball breaks the plane of the line of scrimmage before it leaves the QB's hand.  That is much easier to judge in live action by both the refs and the defensive players.  You know, the DB does not have the benefit of watching a replay to see if the QB is past the line of scrimmage or not.  And now that we know the rule is that he actually can be past the line of scrimmage when he throws so long as he has one sliver of a shoe string on the line of scrimmage I have no idea how a defense is supposed to stop that play.  If you stay back on the receiver you are essentially conceding at least a 5 yard run by the QB.

This rule has been in existence for some time, and I noticed its application a few years ago is a non-SEC game.  But you are right, it makes no sense.  It does not allow the defense to stop the quarterback run until he is completely across the line.  Given OL being downfield (and not being called) and the QB being allowed to mostly cross the line of scrimmage before passing, it puts the D in bind and gives too much advantage to today's offensive schemes with QB options to run or pass.

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