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« on: January 16, 2015, 03:29:59 PM »

So all is apparently forgiven and the awful scandal that brought down Joe Pa is forgotten. I disagree with this completely. I despise the NCAA as much as any Bama fan but in this case I believe the university needed to be punished for horrible lack of control. And Joe Pa should not be remembered as the winningest coach. This is an insult to the lives ruined by the monster Sandusky and his boss who let it happen.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/penn-st-gets-wins-restored-paterno-again-winningest-coach/ar-AA8foix
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2015, 03:35:47 PM »

I don't agree with the decision, but I can't say I am totally surprised.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2015, 04:05:54 PM »

You should of listened to Finebaum & comments by Penn State apologists & Finebaum said nothing. I was screaming mad.


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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2015, 04:54:09 PM »

 Banging your head against the wall. Banging your head against the wall. Banging your head against the wall. Banging your head against the wall.

I respected Joe Paterno prior to this scandal. No more. He knew about this and did nothing. The cover up is as bad as the crime. It might even be worse. Paterno allowed this to go on for years.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2015, 07:59:58 PM »

What a price to pay for those boys and it was all for the sake of Paterno being the winingest coach in the NCAA. Our world today is just sickening. Angry
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2015, 08:47:49 PM »

The NCAA is the biggest joke in the sports world. My, how the mighty have fallen.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2015, 05:36:34 AM »

Going to be a long offseason.

 
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2015, 10:41:57 AM »

Going to be a long offseason.
 
 

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I can understand why the NCAA backtracked on this after being sued by multiple parties. One of the big issues was the NCAA's jurisdiction to impose penalties, given that the horrendous conduct did not involve recruiting, player benefits, vacating wins, or anything else contained in the realm over which the NCAA operates.  It's simply not in their rule book.  The plaintiffs found emails by NCAA officials acknowledging that:

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In recent months, emails and other documents have been attached to court filings by the NCAA and the plaintiffs...

In one, an NCAA official described its pursuit of the penalties as "a bluff" and said asserting jurisdiction would be "a stretch." 

So the parties entered into an new settlement that reverses those NCAA rules infringing type penalties (scholarship reductions, bowl bans, vacating wins, etc.)  And focuses on helping the victims, in the form of a $60 million payment by Penn St. towards child abuse victims.

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The NCAA announced the new settlement with the school weeks before a scheduled trial on the legality of the 2012 consent decree it will replace.

The new deal also directs a $60 million fine to address child abuse be spent within Pennsylvania and resolves that lawsuit. 

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The consent decree had also called for Penn State to provide $60 million to fight child abuse and combat its effects. The lawsuit scheduled for trial next month began as an effort by two state officials to enforce a state law that required the money to remain in Pennsylvania. 

Ultimately the NCAA caved because the plaintiffs were probably right about the NCAA overreaching it's jurisdiction.  The most important component to the NCAA apparently was the victim fund, and making sure that at least that aspect was addressed:

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The NCAA said continuing the litigation would only delay the distribution of funds to sex abuse survivors.

"While others will focus on the return of wins, our top priority is on protecting, educating and nurturing young people," said Harris Pastides, University of South Carolina president and member of the NCAA board.

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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2015, 10:40:15 PM »

I don't have a problem with reinstating the wins.  The way I look at it is this... The guys that played the games deserve to have those games recognized as wins more than the coaches and others that might have played a part in Sandusky's dealings.  I see this as restoring the victories that were won on the field for those guys... plain and simple.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2015, 08:00:36 AM »

They are talking about putting Paterno's statue back up. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2015, 04:46:27 PM »

This is just a pure slap in the face to the victims of the monster that is currently behind bars.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2015, 05:11:33 PM »

This is just a pure slap in the face to the victims of the monster that is currently behind bars.
Putting Paterno's statue back up is a slap in their faces. If they would have just reinstated the wins and left Joe Pa out of it then I wouldn't have had a problem with it...
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