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« on: November 01, 2015, 05:19:09 PM »

I have just spent a little time looking at the remaining games of the unbeaten and one loss teams. Looking at those teams realistically, I believe that if we win out and beat UF in the SEC championship game, we still may not have a seat at the table. If we win out our loss will be to a team that got beat by Memphis, and our best win will be LSU. Next best win will be UF, now at #11, and then MSU, who is so close to unranked they will become unranked when we beat them.

Iowa has a good chance to run the reg season, and if they lose the Big 10 Championship it will be to a very highly ranked Big10 East opponent. Why would we get in ahead of them even with a loss? Stanford and ND have no one left on their schedules besides each other. If ND wins and has only a 2 pt loss to highly ranked Clemson, why would we get in over them? MSUn has a loss and if the beat OSU, why would we get in over them. If OSU beats a tough UM and a highly ranked MSUn they are in obviously. But even if they lost to the Big10 East Champ or to MSUn, they have one loss to a highly ranked team. Why put us in over them?

Then there is the Big12. All of the best teams play each other at the end of the season, so they may all have a loss. But even if they do, that loss will be to a top 10 team, so any of them would have an argument to get in before us.

And finally, ponder this: If we beat LSU and they don't lose another game they will be another one loss team whose loss was more impressive than ours.

Even with a loss....

Spot 1 - MSUn, tOSU, or Iowa
Spot  2 (and maybe 3) - TCU, Baylor, or OKstate
Spot 3 - Stanford or ND
Spot 4 - LSU


My conclusion: there are just not enough losses out there to hope for enough two loss teams for us to jump.

I welcome your thoughts.
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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2015, 05:36:33 PM »

ATU, I don't loan these to just anybody, but clearly you are in need of them.



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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2015, 05:57:47 PM »

ATU, I don't loan these to just anybody, but clearly you are in need of them.



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I am going to look totally badazz in these things.  Toast 4

Needless to say, I would love nothing more than to get back to the final four. Maybe shut OSU up as a warm-up to another total humiliation of the domers, and rename the mural to "I give up Bama, don't shoot"! Jesus. But alas.
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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2015, 06:00:01 PM »

I have just spent a little time looking at the remaining games of the unbeaten and one loss teams. Looking at those teams realistically, I believe that if we win out and beat UF in the SEC championship game, we still may not have a seat at the table. If we win out our loss will be to a team that got beat by Memphis, and our best win will be LSU. Next best win will be UF, now at #11, and then MSU, who is so close to unranked they will become unranked when we beat them.

Iowa has a good chance to run the reg season, and if they lose the Big 10 Championship it will be to a very highly ranked Big10 East opponent. Why would we get in ahead of them even with a loss? Stanford and ND have no one left on their schedules besides each other. If ND wins and has only a 2 pt loss to highly ranked Clemson, why would we get in over them? MSUn has a loss and if the beat OSU, why would we get in over them. If OSU beats a tough UM and a highly ranked MSUn they are in obviously. But even if they lost to the Big10 East Champ or to MSUn, they have one loss to a highly ranked team. Why put us in over them?

Then there is the Big12. All of the best teams play each other at the end of the season, so they may all have a loss. But even if they do, that loss will be to a top 10 team, so any of them would have an argument to get in before us.

And finally, ponder this: If we beat LSU and they don't lose another game they will be another one loss team whose loss was more impressive than ours.

Even with a loss....

Spot 1 - MSUn, tOSU, or Iowa
Spot  2 (and maybe 3) - TCU, Baylor, or OKstate
Spot 3 - Stanford or ND
Spot 4 - LSU


My conclusion: there are just not enough losses out there to hope for enough two loss teams for us to jump.

I welcome your thoughts.




What the heck? You smoking something? We have played the 3rd toughest schedule in the nation. Iowa is like 96th, so forget them. We are definitely the best 1 loss team in nation, especially if we beat LSU, that's the key, we have to win out. No 1 loss team will be considered over us. At best, there will be 1 no loss team each from the Big 12 & Big Ten. Stanford looked very bad against a bad Washington State team. No way LSU makes the playoff with a loss to us but still jumps us with our one loss. The Committee has constantly stressed the importance of tough scheduling, that's why undefeated FSU got the #4 spot, even as defending champs.

I'm going to assume your computer was hacked by an Aubie because this does not sound like you, anyway.




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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 06:06:57 PM »

I have just spent a little time looking at the remaining games of the unbeaten and one loss teams. Looking at those teams realistically, I believe that if we win out and beat UF in the SEC championship game, we still may not have a seat at the table. If we win out our loss will be to a team that got beat by Memphis, and our best win will be LSU. Next best win will be UF, now at #11, and then MSU, who is so close to unranked they will become unranked when we beat them.

Iowa has a good chance to run the reg season, and if they lose the Big 10 Championship it will be to a very highly ranked Big10 East opponent. Why would we get in ahead of them even with a loss? Stanford and ND have no one left on their schedules besides each other. If ND wins and has only a 2 pt loss to highly ranked Clemson, why would we get in over them? MSUn has a loss and if the beat OSU, why would we get in over them. If OSU beats a tough UM and a highly ranked MSUn they are in obviously. But even if they lost to the Big10 East Champ or to MSUn, they have one loss to a highly ranked team. Why put us in over them?

Then there is the Big12. All of the best teams play each other at the end of the season, so they may all have a loss. But even if they do, that loss will be to a top 10 team, so any of them would have an argument to get in before us.

And finally, ponder this: If we beat LSU and they don't lose another game they will be another one loss team whose loss was more impressive than ours.

Even with a loss....

Spot 1 - MSUn, tOSU, or Iowa
Spot  2 (and maybe 3) - TCU, Baylor, or OKstate
Spot 3 - Stanford or ND
Spot 4 - LSU


My conclusion: there are just not enough losses out there to hope for enough two loss teams for us to jump.

I welcome your thoughts.




What the heck? You smoking something? We have played the 3rd toughest schedule in the nation. Iowa is like 96th, so forget them. We are definitely the best 1 loss team in nation, especially if we beat LSU, that's the key, we have to win out. No 1 loss team will be considered over us. At best, there will be 1 no loss team each from the Big 12 & Big Ten. Stanford looked very bad against a bad Washington State team. No way LSU makes the playoff with a loss to us but still jumps us with our one loss. The Committee has constantly stressed the importance of tough scheduling, that's why undefeated FSU got the #4 spot, even as defending champs.

I'm going to assume your computer was hacked by an Aubie because this does not sound like you, anyway.




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I agree on the strength of schedule point, but at this point in the season, the SEC is not looking so impressive as it was at the beginning of the year. I am trying to put myself in the place of committee members and ask myself how would I evaluate the one loss. Our one loss sucks pretty bad, and if we are to make it into the SEC champ game, it's gonna have to get even worse. We will have lost to a three loss team.

Dang I wish we had that one back.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 06:09:02 PM »

we win out and we are in it!
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 06:15:44 PM »

we win out and we are in it!

And if Ole Miss losses again.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2015, 06:17:29 PM »

we win out and we are in it!

And if Ole Miss losses again.

Discuss. Maybe 57 is saying we can pull the  "miss the Championship game and sneak in with a loss" trick.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2015, 06:28:45 PM »

we win out and we are in it!

And if Ole Miss losses again.

Discuss. Maybe 57 is saying we can pull the  "miss the Championship game and sneak in with a loss" trick.

I think we need to be in the SEC Championship game in order for us to make the playoffs. I think the only ones to get in the playoff would be either us, LSU, or FL.

I know our SOS is suppose to help us but as the season goes on it doesn't look as strong as it did at  the beginning.

Since our offense is Jekyll and Hyde we don't put up the beauty points like Baylor and Clemson. It will really determine how the rest of the teams look at the end of the season. If there is chaos then I think it could be possible for us to go without going to ATL.

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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2015, 06:29:40 PM »

we win out and we are in it!

And if Ole Miss losses again.

Discuss. Maybe 57 is saying we can pull the  "miss the Championship game and sneak in with a loss" trick.
Most of the teams ahead of us have a couple of big games left to play. we will move up if we win out . what if old miss loses to Florida in a sec Championship game? I could really see  a 1 loss Florida and a 1 loss BAMA in it!But of course if you look at my avatar you will notice I wear my CRIMSON colored glasses every day.Old Miss still has arky and lsu.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2015, 03:06:49 AM »

No need to panic or worry at this point.  When the selection committee releases their initial rankings on Tuesday we will know where we stand.  For example, if we end up at #7 with 3 teams ahead of us guaranteed to lose a game, then we will be in if we take care of our business.

No way LSU loses to us in November and gets in ahead of us with each of us only having 1 loss.  The result of the head to head would dictate that we would be ahead of them.

Don't forget that when you lose is much more important than who you lose to.  OSU was #16 in the initial rankings last year and they climbed 12 spots.  They had a horrible loss to Va Tech but it was early in the season.

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2015, 04:25:42 AM »

Coach Saban is not going to be happy with us.  There's a game against LSU this weekend.  Right now, that's all that matters.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2015, 05:23:07 AM »

I agree with it all: ^^^^^^^^

First things first.  BEAT THE HELL OUT OF LSU (and we're in)!
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2015, 06:41:17 AM »

We need to win out period. We can not control what Ole Miss does but we need them to lose. If we only have one loss with a conference championship we will get in. One loss without a championship and that opens the door to Notre Dame & Stanford to slip ahead of us. The committee has made it clear they put an emphasis on conference championships.
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2015, 06:46:38 AM »




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