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Title: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 09, 2011, 12:08:28 PM
Again, first let me say congrats to the players and coaches on the victory and a great game plan.  I do think this is the most calm I have seen CNS during a game. I think I even saw him smile before the game was over.   I do think in the first half both the O and D displayed a lackluster effort. The 2nd half for both was better.


Offense:  The O did what they wanted to do.   They threw the ball to different rec and ran the ball when they wanted.  Like I said above the O seem to be in a practice mode in the first half.  There seem to be more focus and effort the second half.  The Bama running backs were hit in the backfield 6 times and 4 of those were early in the game before the backups came in. The impressive drive was in the 2nd half when Bama went 94 yards after losing good field position on a punt return because of a penalty.  I did notice there were some early adjustments in the OL to get CK some playing time.  I saw BJ go to the right tackle spot for DJF.  Also, I do think the D is timing the snap count at times.  Again Bama had no TO’s which if I heard correctly goes back to 37 straight offensive possessions. 

QB:  AJ had a good game and more balls were on target this game.  He hit the rec in stride more than once.  The two best throws I saw was the one to MM on a long 3rd down which gave Bama a first down and the one when he had to scramble and threw a rope to the side line.  I do think he didn’t put enough on the throw to the wide rec screen that was caught for a loss on the play.  He also missed some open rec’s a couple of times.  I still feel he locks into certain rec on some plays and doesn’t see the field. However, I did notice him check down a few times.  I thought PS did well when he came in.  I thought he should have gotten the entire 4th quarter. 
 
RB:  TR was TR.  He ran hard, protected the football, and blocked well.  I really thought JF came in and ran hard and gave TR a rest.  I don’t think Bama lost a step when he was in the game.  If this continues, Bama can have 3 backs that can get the job done.  BS also did well, and the only reason I didn’t mention him as one of the 3 above, I just haven’t seen enough of him.  Also, he isn’t usually in with the first team OL and the D is tired by this point. 

REC:  The rec’s caught the ball well and made yards after the catch.  Seven different wide outs caught the ball.  Some of them need to do a better job blocking downfield.  It seems that #2’s progression into the O may be because people continually have to tell him where to line up.  I notice this in other games as well.  I do like the fact that he went up to get the 2nd TD pass instead of waiting for it to come down and allow the D a chance to make a play.  He also made a good catch for his first TD in the back of the end zone on a high throw.

OL:  They played pretty well especially in the 2nd half.  As I stated above the Bama runners were hit 4 times behind the LOS in the first half.    The TE/HB got blown up on one play where they were on a double team.  The center WV also got blown up one in the game.  This is where I wonder a couple of things.  One does Bama need to change up the snap count or are the centers giving some indication of when the ball is going to be snapped.   I will say the starters in the second half opened some wide holes for the RB’s and gave AJ plenty of time to throw the ball. 

Defense:  The D also played a lackluster first half.  Vandy did come out with a good game plan of getting the ball out quickly and take what they could get.   They put together 2 nice drives but missed field goals.  Also, they did miss a wide open rec that may have gone for a TD.  The D did come up with 10 negative plays which included 2 Int’s.  I don’t count no gains as negative plays.  I am disappointed in CU and DH.  First, DH takes a mule kick at a Vandy player who tried to cut him (this happened around the 7:34 mark in the 2nd quarter).  Also, CU kicked a player after he couldn’t get off the block (this happened at the 4:21 mark in the 2nd quarter).  They may have been held or maybe cut, but it could cost the team in a big game.  There was one play where the TE slammed released and the caught the pass after the QB rolled right.  This is a busted coverage.  Finally, Bama missed more tackles in this game than in others.  On one play alone there were 3 missed tackles. 

DL:  They played well and what impresses me is that different players are making plays.  I really don’t think anyone stood out. 

LB:    Again they played well.  They had to come up in space and make tackles with the short passing game by Vandy.  NJ had a nice int as he stayed with the coverage when the QB scrambled. 

DB:  They really weren’t challenged much.  Most of the throws were underneath.  DK did get beat deep and the ball was overthrown.  They did come up and make some big tackles on the short throws.  MB had more than one big hit during the day. 

Special teams:  I guess it doesn’t matter how deep the ball is kicked if Bama can make the other team drive over 70 yards.  Not a lot happened on special teams.  MM had a nice return negated by a penalty.   The cover teams did their jobs pretty well.

Penalties:  Bama only had 15 yards worth of penalties.  One was a holding that negated a big run by TR.  However, AJ completed the pass to overcome. 
 
Please feel free to comment.

Good Luck and Roll Tide Roll


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Chechem on October 09, 2011, 12:24:36 PM
Great job again, HSCoach.

I was disappointed, but not surprised, but the first-half play.  Alabama has done this against Vandy for years.  And usually we get away with it (the 1969 game showed what happens when we fail to prepare well enough).

HSCoach, please address what you think might be the weaknesses of this team with regards to the upcoming LSU game.  In other words, what do you expect LSU to exploit?

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMADCHAMPSHIPS on October 09, 2011, 12:29:20 PM
Good stuff!


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 09, 2011, 01:25:59 PM
Great job again, HSCoach.

I was disappointed, but not surprised, but the first-half play.  Alabama has done this against Vandy for years.  And usually we get away with it (the 1969 game showed what happens when we fail to prepare well enough).

HSCoach, please address what you think might be the weaknesses of this team with regards to the upcoming LSU game.  In other words, what do you expect LSU to exploit?

 :popcorn2:

I think LSU will try to dump the ball short, like Vandy.  They will try to run the ball and be happy with 3 yards per play.  I think they will try to control the ball with the run and short pass.  Play D and take field position since Bama can't really flip the field with the punt. 


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Chechem on October 09, 2011, 01:30:16 PM
Great job again, HSCoach.

I was disappointed, but not surprised, but the first-half play.  Alabama has done this against Vandy for years.  And usually we get away with it (the 1969 game showed what happens when we fail to prepare well enough).

HSCoach, please address what you think might be the weaknesses of this team with regards to the upcoming LSU game.  In other words, what do you expect LSU to exploit?

 :popcorn2:

I think LSU will try to dump the ball short, like Vandy.  They will try to run the ball and be happy with 3 yards per play.  I think they will try to control the ball with the run and short pass.  Play D and take field position since Bama can't really flip the field with the punt. 

Thanks, HSC.  I'll bet you're right.  Hopefully our punter will begin improving in his distance and hang-time soon.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Dig Em on October 09, 2011, 01:39:58 PM
HSC I missed the game last night. Thanks for your excellent analysis on how the boys did.  #+


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: rueben on October 09, 2011, 01:46:46 PM
Corch, great job as usual, but I respectfully disagree about CU's "kick." I think it was more of a "leg shake" to get the other player off of him.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: ricky023 on October 09, 2011, 02:43:48 PM
Well this was a great explanation. I know ELI was sure trying to make it sound like a big game, lol. Looking forward to next week. RTR!


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: bama87 on October 09, 2011, 02:45:00 PM
I think the lackluster play caught everyones' attention. I think there was some butt chewing going on at the break. We showed inspired play in the second. I think that will roll over to this week. CNS can get on them for not playing hard. That will help avoid a "trap" in Oxford.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: 2Stater on October 09, 2011, 03:29:59 PM
Being at the game and watching the sidelines and players reaction, I saw that Bama was flat last night. Very flat. I think they knew they could turn it on whenever they needed to, but they were without emotion, for the most part, last night. They went through the motions in the first half especially. Not to say they didn't hit hard, because brother, they did. I counted 7 Vandy players that left the field injured. Even flat, Bama is an extremely talented team. In past years, Vandy played us a lot closer when Bama let their guard down and that was when Vandy had lesser teams. Vandy is better this year than normal. I saw AJ really turning into a leader and MM is really the go-to guy now. DH had his best game and is really coming on now. You have no idea how good D. White has become. He was open on deep routes 3 times that I could see that if he were the primary receiver, he would have added to the 2 TD's he had. We are in very good shape with receivers. Vandy did a good job of shooting the gaps to hold Trent and Jalston a bit at bay last night, but they both did a good job considering. I felt the "D" came together in the 2nd half and really took care of business.

Late in the game, Patrick Murphy and the softball team came out and were right in front of us. They got a standing ovation. A good night was had by all. I'm tired but glad to be home. Jamos, again, was a great host. Tailgating doesn't get any better than what they put on. Thanks again, J.

Also, great analyses HSCoach. As usual, you're spot on.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 09, 2011, 04:43:50 PM
Being at the game and watching the sidelines and players reaction, I saw that Bama was flat last night. Very flat. I think they knew they could turn it on whenever they needed to, but they were without emotion, for the most part, last night. They went through the motions in the first half especially. Not to say they didn't hit hard, because brother, they did. I counted 7 Vandy players that left the field injured. Even flat, Bama is an extremely talented team. In past years, Vandy played us a lot closer when Bama let their guard down and that was when Vandy had lesser teams. Vandy is better this year than normal. I saw AJ really turning into a leader and MM is really the go-to guy now. DH had his best game and is really coming on now. You have no idea how good D. White has become. He was open on deep routes 3 times that I could see that if he were the primary receiver, he would have added to the 2 TD's he had. We are in very good shape with receivers. Vandy did a good job of shooting the gaps to hold Trent and Jalston a bit at bay last night, but they both did a good job considering. I felt the "D" came together in the 2nd half and really took care of business.

Late in the game, Patrick Murphy and the softball team came out and were right in front of us. They got a standing ovation. A good night was had by all. I'm tired but glad to be home. Jamos, again, was a great host. Tailgating doesn't get any better than what they put on. Thanks again, J.

Also, great analyses HSCoach. As usual, you're spot on.

I agree there was an absence of emotion.  Players didn't jump around when someone made a big play and congratulate them like they did in the "big" game.  Bama needs to understand every game is a big game if they plan to play for a national championship.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 09, 2011, 04:58:38 PM
Great notes, hsc. I'll be re-watching the game in a few minutes. I'll watch for stuff you talked about. I take notes during the game. No one cares at all about my opinions. Hey, Roll Tide!


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 09, 2011, 05:04:53 PM
Great notes, hsc. I'll be re-watching the game in a few minutes. I'll watch for stuff you talked about. I take notes during the game. No one cares at all about my opinions. Hey, Roll Tide!

Post your notes.  We will let you know if they are correct.  :D


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Jamos on October 09, 2011, 05:15:46 PM
I'm not that worried about the Ole Miss game since Bama came out so flat in the first half last night. Per Milliner, in his post game interview last night, CNS and the leaders of the team had a few words of encouragement at half time last night. I think that was a wake up call to this team as what can happen if they don't play with intensity.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 09, 2011, 05:33:14 PM
Great notes, as always coach.

I was disappointed that they started off so slow.  We have not gotten off to a fast start yet this year, that I can remember.  Maybe CNS should chew them out when they go back in the locker room after pre-game drills.  :dunno:

To be honest though, it is hard for those guys to get excited about playing Vandy.  Nothing good can happen really.  If they blow them out 70 to nothing, everybody will say "oh that's just Vandy".  It will only be news if Vandy does something good.  This might be an issue the whole month.

But... they are going to be FIRED UP on 11/5.  After a month of cupcakes they will be ready for some serious competition.  Last year USC was a pretty good team and we didn't take them seriously.  They had the talent to beat us.  I don't think Vandy, Ole Miss, or UT has the players to beat us even if we played our scout team the whole game.  We shut out Vandy, Ole Miss lost to Vandy, and UT has too many injuries to be competitive right now.

Maybe the best we can hope for this month is to just make progress in some of the areas where we are not quite up to where we should be.  I think AJ made tremendous progress last night in the passing game.  I hope that continues.  I noticed that one of the kick offs made it down to the 2 yard line for the first time that I can remember this year.  It also seemed like the punter got off a pretty good one once.  If we keep making improvement in those areas we will be unstoppable down the stretch.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 09, 2011, 06:02:37 PM
hsc spoke of the penalty that negated a nice MM punt return. Replay shows #81 getting "encouraged" by an asst.. My old roster doesn't have a #81. Who is that?

BTW, that was a 54yd. punt by Vandy. We know it wasn't grades that kept Bama from recruiting him? ???


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 09, 2011, 06:05:15 PM
81   Hardie Buck   Wide Receiver   JR   5-9/190   1L   Birmingham, Ala. (Vestavia Hills)

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/alab-m-footbl-mtt.html

You can click on the number column to sort by number.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 09, 2011, 06:33:19 PM
81   Hardie Buck   Wide Receiver   JR   5-9/190   1L   Birmingham, Ala. (Vestavia Hills)

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/alab-m-footbl-mtt.html

You can click on the number column to sort by number.
Thanks. I had to run this other play, MFBATR's TD run in the 3rd, about 5 times to get the freeze frame on it. He signaled something with his hands after the play. It was #32--- cool thing by MFBATR!


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 09, 2011, 06:58:06 PM
Great notes, hsc. I'll be re-watching the game in a few minutes. I'll watch for stuff you talked about. I take notes during the game. No one cares at all about my opinions. Hey, Roll Tide!

I would like to see your notes.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 09, 2011, 07:08:58 PM
Great notes, hsc. I'll be re-watching the game in a few minutes. I'll watch for stuff you talked about. I take notes during the game. No one cares at all about my opinions. Hey, Roll Tide!

I would like to see your notes.
LOL-- I would be embarrassed to show YOU. Stuff like--"What the "H" is TR putting in his hair--blonde?" or "Is Vandy really hurt that many times, or pulling a LSU stall tactic?" or "Bob Greise sounds like Gary Danielson,-- without Verne butting in".


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 09, 2011, 07:13:43 PM
LOL-- I would be embarrassed to show YOU. Stuff like--"What the "H" is TR putting in his hair--blonde?" or "Is Vandy really hurt that many times, or pulling a LSU stall tactic?" or "Bob Greise sounds like Gary Danielson,-- without Verne butting in".

 :o  HEY !  those sound a little too much like my notes  , way too much , twin notes ? naw ....


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMADCHAMPSHIPS on October 09, 2011, 07:19:12 PM
LOL-- I would be embarrassed to show YOU. Stuff like--"What the "H" is TR putting in his hair--blonde?" or "Is Vandy really hurt that many times, or pulling a LSU stall tactic?" or "Bob Greise sounds like Gary Danielson,-- without Verne butting in".

 :o  HEY !  those sound a little too much like my notes  , way too much , twin notes ? naw ....

^^^This^^^  :lol:


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 09, 2011, 07:19:31 PM
Great notes, hsc. I'll be re-watching the game in a few minutes. I'll watch for stuff you talked about. I take notes during the game. No one cares at all about my opinions. Hey, Roll Tide!

I would like to see your notes.
LOL-- I would be embarrassed to show YOU. Stuff like--"What the "H" is TR putting in his hair--blonde?" or "Is Vandy really hurt that many times, or pulling a LSU stall tactic?" or "Bob Greise sounds like Gary Danielson,-- without Verne butting in".

:lol:

You really feel compelled to write that stuff down?  :D


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 09, 2011, 07:22:38 PM


:lol:

You really feel compelled to write that stuff down?  :D


sort of ... we have a blog ... A Real Alabama Fan http://dd4bama.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: 2Stater on October 09, 2011, 07:26:29 PM


:lol:

You really feel compelled to write that stuff down?  :D


sort of ... we have a blog ... A Real Alabama Fan http://dd4bama.blogspot.com/

Well, we know where dd4bama is now.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 09, 2011, 07:29:05 PM


Well, we know where dd4bama is now.

more importantly ! we know where he ain't   ;D


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: 2Stater on October 09, 2011, 07:31:28 PM


Well, we know where dd4bama is now.

more importantly ! we know where he ain't   ;D

And that's a good thing, X.  :clap:


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 09, 2011, 07:31:53 PM
DOH!!!  Don't give away our position!!! He can probably see where you guys are sneaking in from.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMADCHAMPSHIPS on October 09, 2011, 07:32:07 PM


:lol:

You really feel compelled to write that stuff down?  :D


sort of ... we have a blog ... A Real Alabama Fan http://dd4bama.blogspot.com/

I'm kinda disappointed that for his poll for how many games Bama will lose....he doesn't have ham sammich for an option. :(


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 09, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
I didn't see the poll , I just copied the link and hauled tail  .... no ham sammitch huh ? figures  :dunno:


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 09, 2011, 07:41:50 PM
No 0 either.  It should be:

1) 0
2) ham sammich
3) who is dd


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMADCHAMPSHIPS on October 09, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
No 0 either.  It should be:

1) 0
2) ham sammich
3) who is dd

 :lol: #+


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 09, 2011, 08:23:12 PM
Great notes, hsc. I'll be re-watching the game in a few minutes. I'll watch for stuff you talked about. I take notes during the game. No one cares at all about my opinions. Hey, Roll Tide!

I would like to see your notes.
LOL-- I would be embarrassed to show YOU. Stuff like--"What the "H" is TR putting in his hair--blonde?" or "Is Vandy really hurt that many times, or pulling a LSU stall tactic?" or "Bob Greise sounds like Gary Danielson,-- without Verne butting in".

:lol:

You really feel compelled to write that stuff down?  :D
It keeps my mind less cluttered.  I would have done a little better job, if I knew hsc might see them.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 09, 2011, 08:31:20 PM
Great notes, hsc. I'll be re-watching the game in a few minutes. I'll watch for stuff you talked about. I take notes during the game. No one cares at all about my opinions. Hey, Roll Tide!

I would like to see your notes.
LOL-- I would be embarrassed to show YOU. Stuff like--"What the "H" is TR putting in his hair--blonde?" or "Is Vandy really hurt that many times, or pulling a LSU stall tactic?" or "Bob Greise sounds like Gary Danielson,-- without Verne butting in".

:lol:

You really feel compelled to write that stuff down?  :D
It keeps my mind less cluttered.  I would have done a little better job, if I knew hsc might see them.

:lol:

Cleaning out the attic huh?  I should try that.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 10, 2011, 09:10:10 PM
For hsc:

Do you play chess, hsc? The reason I ask has to do with BATR lining up sometimes at wide out.

Learned this morning that the "D" is locked in on what personnel they have on the field, once Bama breaks the huddle. Therefore, CNS knows they need the extra down lineman or backer in the game. But when the Tide goes "empty" backfield with TR split on way or the other, the Tide now has forced a backer covering a wideout. Like a big chess match. Who can think that fast? these things planned in advance?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 11, 2011, 10:21:35 AM
For hsc:

Do you play chess, hsc? The reason I ask has to do with BATR lining up sometimes at wide out.

Learned this morning that the "D" is locked in on what personnel they have on the field, once Bama breaks the huddle. Therefore, CNS knows they need the extra down lineman or backer in the game. But when the Tide goes "empty" backfield with TR split on way or the other, the Tide now has forced a backer covering a wideout. Like a big chess match. Who can think that fast? these things planned in advance?

Coaches usually have packages for personnel in the game.  Now if TR switches to a wideout the D usually has a counter D for the personnel on the field. Coaches have computer programs that breaks down down/distance/hash/personnel and formations.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
For hsc:

Do you play chess, hsc? The reason I ask has to do with BATR lining up sometimes at wide out.

Learned this morning that the "D" is locked in on what personnel they have on the field, once Bama breaks the huddle. Therefore, CNS knows they need the extra down lineman or backer in the game. But when the Tide goes "empty" backfield with TR split on way or the other, the Tide now has forced a backer covering a wideout. Like a big chess match. Who can think that fast? these things planned in advance?

Coaches usually have packages for personnel in the game.  Now if TR switches to a wideout the D usually has a counter D for the personnel on the field. Coaches have computer programs that breaks down down/distance/hash/personnel and formations.
So the OC and the DC each are carry a set of personnel groupings that "key" off of TR or maybe a Sims/TR package and a AJ and TR package, etc.  Then the OC is counting what? The number of linebackers? He then has a grouping of plays to call, or is that all done by situation (down and yardage)?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 11, 2011, 12:54:16 PM
The OC is looking at down and distance.  According to that, they may use a certain package which has a set of plays associated with it.  They also look at what the  D does in certain Down and Distance.

On the D side they have coaches checking who is in the game.  For instance 2 TE's /  3 wides, etc. They set their D according to down and distance with the tendacies that the computer printed out.  If there is a shift, say where TR goes to a wide out, they have a check or different D they can call.  Hope I am clear on what I am trying to explain.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 01:04:25 PM
Way clear. You see where I'm going with all this. You guys are carrying huge amounts of info to make quick decisions from. Also, that changes each week because each teams tendencies are different.

I drill wells. Make calls all the time which could cost huge amounts of money. BUT THERE IS NO CLOCK TICKING. I can walk away from the rig, sit  and think a few minutes, maybe make a couple of phone calls.

So this all comes a little at a time, as you work your way up from asst. OL coach, to OL coach, to OC, to head coach? I guess that is why they hold practices. Whew!


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 11, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
Since the computer scouting programs have come along it has become a lot easier.  Here are just some of the reports that are run from a defensive standpoint.

1.  Top 10 formations  Which will include player #'s for package recognition.
2.  Top 1o running plays
3.  Top 10 passing plays
4.  Top 10 plays on 1st and long 7 to 10 yards
5.  Top 10 plays on 1st and medium 7 to 4 yards.  It happens because of penalties
6.  Top 10 plays on 2nd and long; 2nd and med.  7 to 4 yards ; 2nd and short 3 yards or less
7.  Top 10 plays on 3rd and long; 3rd and med.; 3rd and short
8.  Passing zone's where they like to throw the ball.

The list goes on.  You can feed what stats in that you want and generate the info you want.  Also, some programs will now allow you to make a tape/dvd of each of the situations. 


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 01:18:52 AM
Yeah.  I was a step ahead and about ask yesterday. But even with the program, you would need too much time to enter the variables. Say again from a DC standpoint, and even with a touch tone screen, you would I guess have to enter players #s. Then the down and yardage info, unless the computer was somehow following the game real time. I thought of it, but just blew it off because of not enough time between plays, but maybe not if the computers are networked and someone else is adding in down and yardage. SuperCoach could probably figure out how to work it. So there are companies that sell High Schools and Colleges programs of each opponent  to run and the coaches then enter the variables? Also some programs have action figures like Madden2011 or one of the other video games? Amazing!


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 12, 2011, 08:27:08 AM
They don't actually sell the progam of the opponent.  You have too, as you stated, enter the info into the computer.  Fortunatlly, out here in Tx, you have middle schools who scout, usually 3 games and can input the info after the game.  Also, the computer can divide the Offense and Defense video so all you have to watch is the O or D.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
They don't actually sell the progam of the opponent.  You have too, as you stated, enter the info into the computer.  Fortunatlly, out here in Tx, you have middle schools who scout, usually 3 games and can input the info after the game.  Also, the computer can divide the Offense and Defense video so all you have to watch is the O or D.
All our computers on the drill rig are tied into the same info, gathered by a company called Pason(there are others). Revolutions per minute, weight on bit, pump pressure, depth, etc.. It is also sent via satellite to the oil company home office, in REAL time. I get that on my desk in WV. So it is possible there is a way to tie into the game clock, all the computers at the stadium, plus to ESPN 360 or whomever. So if the OC or DC is running off official real time info, and the scoreboard has the football lit up  showing you are on, say, offense, then maybe, automatically your choices of plays shows up. Then as you add more info, say #s of players on "D", the program further breaks down your list of possible calls. Do you think I'm getting carried away here, or is this close to what is in front of the OC if he is sitting in the booth? 


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: bamalum67 on October 12, 2011, 04:52:30 PM
Would anyone like to guess which BAMA former player---head coach at a SEC school ----"invented" computer programs for use in coaching?

I would request 5 e-creds for the first to guess correctly.  5 -  because computer programs  are so widely used these days, and are vital.

Caveat: I am not sure this guy "invented" such, but he at least made it newsworthy.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
Would anyone like to guess which BAMA former player---head coach at a SEC school ----"invented" computer programs for use in coaching?

I would request 5 e-creds for the first to guess correctly.  5 -  because computer programs  are so widely used these days, and are vital.

Caveat: I am not sure this guy "invented" such, but he at least made it newsworthy.
Croom?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: 2Stater on October 12, 2011, 05:29:54 PM
Would anyone like to guess which BAMA former player---head coach at a SEC school ----"invented" computer programs for use in coaching?

I would request 5 e-creds for the first to guess correctly.  5 -  because computer programs  are so widely used these days, and are vital.

Caveat: I am not sure this guy "invented" such, but he at least made it newsworthy.
Croom?

I would guess Jackie Sherrill.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 07:13:08 PM
Would anyone like to guess which BAMA former player---head coach at a SEC school ----"invented" computer programs for use in coaching?

I would request 5 e-creds for the first to guess correctly.  5 -  because computer programs  are so widely used these days, and are vital.

Caveat: I am not sure this guy "invented" such, but he at least made it newsworthy.
Croom?

I would guess Jackie Sherrill.
I said Croom because I thought he may have got it from the pros.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 12, 2011, 07:34:24 PM
After they input all the info, then they come up with the game plan.  You see coaches with their call sheets (plays).  They basically look and say if we are in this formation then the D is going to be in the D.  They then call the play from the study of film and computer analysis.  According to one coach you find their weak link (orange eater as he called them) and try to attack that.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Chechem on October 12, 2011, 07:42:50 PM
After they input all the info, then they come up with the game plan.  You see coaches with their call sheets (plays).  They basically look and say if we are in this formation then the D is going to be in the D.  They then call the play from the study of film and computer analysis.  According to one coach you find their weak link (orange eater as he called them) and try to attack that.

HSC, I appreciate this.  I've learned a lot (e.g., "orange eater").  Cool stuff.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 12, 2011, 07:47:23 PM
Actually, the orange eater term came from Rich Rod when he was at Tulane and we went to the clinic there.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Chechem on October 12, 2011, 07:52:06 PM
Actually, the orange eater term came from Rich Rod when he was at Tulane and we went to the clinic there.

And the etymology?  What on earth does it mean?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 07:56:09 PM
Actually, the orange eater term came from Rich Rod when he was at Tulane and we went to the clinic there.
Yeah. Say what you want about CRR, he held some serious coaching clinics( I didn't even know about Tulane).. In Morgantown and around--I wonder where he found the time. I promise CNS doesn't or can't spend more than a weekend here or a weekend there. But when CRR's offense was "hot", he was also a hot commodity.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 08:04:02 PM
So hsc, here is one for you. Let's say Bama prepares a program exactly like our opponents are preparing against us. It will list all our tendencies in certain situations (down,yardage,etc), so then we just go the opposite or the least likely from looking at our own tendencies? ???


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 12, 2011, 08:11:20 PM
Would anyone like to guess which BAMA former player---head coach at a SEC school ----"invented" computer programs for use in coaching?

I would request 5 e-creds for the first to guess correctly.  5 -  because computer programs  are so widely used these days, and are vital.

Caveat: I am not sure this guy "invented" such, but he at least made it newsworthy.


is this the same as the system Sharif Melouk & Marcus Perry developed ?
they were at Culverhouse together and came up with a playcalling computer model ?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 12, 2011, 09:19:48 PM
Actually, the orange eater term came from Rich Rod when he was at Tulane and we went to the clinic there.

And the etymology?  What on earth does it mean?

It means every team has a weakness on it.  A CB, LB, or whoever the coaches decide the want to attack. 

The story come from when CRR was at his first job.  According to the story the head coach left early the day before to where the team was going to play.  It was a small college and they had 2 buses.  He told CR to put all the good players on the first bus and the rest of the team on the other, older bus.  When they left after a short while the older bus breaks down.  and CRR waits as long as he can and then leaves the "other" players behind.   They get to the stadium go and get ready to go warm up and still no other bus.  The go out and warm up and come back in.  Still no bus.  So the Head Coach comes in for the pregame speech.  He looks around the room and says men, I can tell by the look on your faces that you are worried about your team mates.  Get that out of your mind because all they are are a bunch of orange eaters.  All they do is come in here at halftime and eat your MF oranges.   Now go out there and KICK SOME A**.    After this CRR goes on to say every team has an at least one orange eater in their starting lineup.  They are going to find him and exploit him.   

The funny thing about his story is that season we were getting ready to play Plano East.  We found a player and wondered how this guy was on the D and we attacked him as he was their orange eater.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 12, 2011, 09:22:48 PM
I hate oranges ... too much acid stuff in em'   >:(


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 12, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
So hsc, here is one for you. Let's say Bama prepares a program exactly like our opponents are preparing against us. It will list all our tendencies in certain situations (down,yardage,etc), so then we just go the opposite or the least likely from looking at our own tendencies? ???

IF teams are equal then it comes down to execution.  Also, coaches also self scout and see their own tendacies.  They can add to their off.  Say out of a certain formation they run the ball 80% of the time and only throw a couple of routes out of that formation.  They can add routes or other runs that the team hasn't seen.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on October 12, 2011, 09:23:42 PM
Actually, the orange eater term came from Rich Rod when he was at Tulane and we went to the clinic there.

And the etymology?  What on earth does it mean?

It means every team has a weakness on it.  A CB, LB, or whoever the coaches decide the want to attack. 

The story come from when CRR was at his first job.  According to the story the head coach left early the day before to where the team was going to play.  It was a small college and they had 2 buses.  He told CR to put all the good players on the first bus and the rest of the team on the other, older bus.  When they left after a short while the older bus breaks down.  and CRR waits as long as he can and then leaves the "other" players behind.   They get to the stadium go and get ready to go warm up and still no other bus.  The go out and warm up and come back in.  Still no bus.  So the Head Coach comes in for the pregame speech.  He looks around the room and says men, I can tell by the look on your faces that you are worried about your team mates.  Get that out of your mind because all they are are a bunch of orange eaters.  All they do is come in here at halftime and eat your MF oranges.   Now go out there and KICK SOME A**.    After this CRR goes on to say every team has an at least one orange eater in their starting lineup.  They are going to find him and exploit him.   

The funny thing about his story is that season we were getting ready to play Plano East.  We found a player and wondered how this guy was on the D and we attacked him as he was their orange eater.

Great story HSC. I loved it.

 :clap:


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 12, 2011, 09:25:02 PM
Would anyone like to guess which BAMA former player---head coach at a SEC school ----"invented" computer programs for use in coaching?

I would request 5 e-creds for the first to guess correctly.  5 -  because computer programs  are so widely used these days, and are vital.

Caveat: I am not sure this guy "invented" such, but he at least made it newsworthy.


is this the same as the system Sharif Melouk & Marcus Perry developed ?
they were at Culverhouse together and came up with a playcalling computer model ?

All I know is the name was Digital Scouting. 


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 12, 2011, 09:39:38 PM
I've seen the digital scouting but I don't think it's the program the Bama boys came up with ...

cool stuff , I saw one that they say Coach Saban uses for recruiting , also cool stuff ...

high-tech foozball , gotta love it !   8)


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 13, 2011, 04:35:40 AM
(http://www.planoeastpantherfootball.com/images/clark.jpg)

May have to change the screen name initials from hsc to sphsc--semi pro high school coach. I had no idea. That is big time. A year or so ago I knew my way around the opposite side of D/FW. Johnson, Tarrant, Parker counties? Brutal heat to start football practice each summer.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: #1Tidefan on October 13, 2011, 05:21:38 AM
Good analogy...  http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2011/10/12/1775166/2-alabama-6-0-at-ole-miss-2-3.html

Through five outings, Ole Miss is generating 22.6 ppg and 275.2 total ypg while surrendering 24.6 ppg and 408.4 total ypg. While Alabama is racking up 37.7 ppg and 434.8 total ypg, impressive numbers for a tremendously well-balanced offensive team. The fact that the Tide is averaging 217.0 ypg on the ground and 217.8 ypg through the air is remarkable. Of the 26 touchdowns scored by the offense, 18 have come via the run, and Richardson paces the club with 729 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns. As for McCarron, he has completed 65.3 percent of his passes for 1,156 yards and eight touchdowns with two interceptions.

The fact that the Rebels are making good on a mere 31 percent of their third down conversion attempts and 20 percent of their fourth down tries is obviously concerning. Scott has rushed for 350 yards and five touchdowns, as he has clearly been the best offensive player for the Rebels. Mackey has completed only 46.7 percent of his passes, as both he and Zack Stoudt have struggled mightily under center.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 13, 2011, 05:32:56 AM
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There are many standouts on the defensive side of the ball for Alabama, including Courtney Upshaw, who has already posted 8.5 TFLs this season. He and his fellow defenders are yielding a lowly 7.0 ppg and 191.3 total ypg, with just five touchdowns surrendered in six outings. The fact that foes are gaining only 39.8 rushing ypg at a clip of 1.6 ypc is staggering.





Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Chechem on October 13, 2011, 05:46:32 AM
Actually, the orange eater term came from Rich Rod when he was at Tulane and we went to the clinic there.

And the etymology?  What on earth does it mean?

It means every team has a weakness on it.  A CB, LB, or whoever the coaches decide the want to attack. 

The story come from when CRR was at his first job.  According to the story the head coach left early the day before to where the team was going to play.  It was a small college and they had 2 buses.  He told CR to put all the good players on the first bus and the rest of the team on the other, older bus.  When they left after a short while the older bus breaks down.  and CRR waits as long as he can and then leaves the "other" players behind.   They get to the stadium go and get ready to go warm up and still no other bus.  The go out and warm up and come back in.  Still no bus.  So the Head Coach comes in for the pregame speech.  He looks around the room and says men, I can tell by the look on your faces that you are worried about your team mates.  Get that out of your mind because all they are are a bunch of orange eaters.  All they do is come in here at halftime and eat your MF oranges.   Now go out there and KICK SOME A**.    After this CRR goes on to say every team has an at least one orange eater in their starting lineup.  They are going to find him and exploit him.   

The funny thing about his story is that season we were getting ready to play Plano East.  We found a player and wondered how this guy was on the D and we attacked him as he was their orange eater.

Wow, that hilarious.   #+


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: bamalum67 on October 13, 2011, 05:58:53 AM
No correct answer on my question, so here is the answer:

Bill Battle..end on the 61 NC team, and head coach at UT (!?!?!) in the late 60's/early 70's.

Note my caveat: I said he might have invented using computers, I do know he did use them.

Bill took a lot of heat from UT fans (and others) about using a computer to track opponent's tendencies, but in the end, he was a visionary.  All of you techies know computers were a strange item back then, but UT had one of the biggest and fastest (for that time), and BB used it.  Not sure how much success had overall, but I do know he beat BAMA for about 4 years running back then..I lived in ChAtt, and had a hard time with it..had to wear a sign with the score around my neck, stand on my desk and sing rocky top, my mailbox painted orange, you get the picture.

Anyway, hats off to Bill Battle, one of our own who was a pacesetter.

I am not surprised you younger folks did not get it, but the "older" guys shoulda got it.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 13, 2011, 06:07:40 AM
No correct answer on my question, so here is the answer:

Bill Battle..end on the 61 NC team, and head coach at UT (!?!?!) in the late 60's/early 70's.

Note my caveat: I said he might have invented using computers, I do know he did use them.

Bill took a lot of heat from UT fans (and others) about using a computer to track opponent's tendencies, but in the end, he was a visionary.  All of you techies know computers were a strange item back then, but UT had one of the biggest and fastest (for that time), and BB used it.  Not sure how much success had overall, but I do know he beat BAMA for about 4 years running back then..I lived in ChAtt, and had a hard time with it..had to wear a sign with the score around my neck, stand on my desk and sing rocky top, my mailbox painted orange, you get the picture.

Anyway, hats off to Bill Battle, one of our own who was a pacesetter.

I am not surprised you younger folks did not get it, but the "older" guys shoulda got it.
#+


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: Chechem on October 13, 2011, 06:24:04 AM
No correct answer on my question, so here is the answer:

Bill Battle..end on the 61 NC team, and head coach at UT (!?!?!) in the late 60's/early 70's.

Note my caveat: I said he might have invented using computers, I do know he did use them.

Bill took a lot of heat from UT fans (and others) about using a computer to track opponent's tendencies, but in the end, he was a visionary.  All of you techies know computers were a strange item back then, but UT had one of the biggest and fastest (for that time), and BB used it.  Not sure how much success had overall, but I do know he beat BAMA for about 4 years running back then..I lived in ChAtt, and had a hard time with it..had to wear a sign with the score around my neck, stand on my desk and sing rocky top, my mailbox painted orange, you get the picture.

Anyway, hats off to Bill Battle, one of our own who was a pacesetter.

I am not surprised you younger folks did not get it, but the "older" guys shoulda got it.

(http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/57428/57428,1218169407,15/stock-photo-close-up-of-football-laces-15909064.jpg)

Excellent.

I remember Bill Battle best as the coach who stormed onto the field contesting a referee call in the first Q of the 1971 (?) game in B'ham.  The ball straddled the 30-yard line.  That followed a kickoff into the end zone.  The chains were brought out to measure, and Tenn was an inch short, despite the ball straddling the 30.  BB was penalized 15 yards back to the 15 and had to punt.  Coach Bryant watched from the other sideline...


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 09:34:47 PM
(http://www.planoeastpantherfootball.com/images/clark.jpg)

May have to change the screen name initials from hsc to sphsc--semi pro high school coach. I had no idea. That is big time. A year or so ago I knew my way around the opposite side of D/FW. Johnson, Tarrant, Parker counties? Brutal heat to start football practice each summer.
The orange eaters out there would be on someone's all-state list in WV. :(


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 14, 2011, 10:05:49 PM
That actually looks like the Carrollton Farmers-Branch School stadium called Standridge Field.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 10:09:29 PM
That actually looks like the Carrollton Farmers-Branch School stadium called Standridge Field.
I forget where I grabbed it. Goggled East Plano? But it said East Plano, West Plano, and another team shared some home games there. I'll find the link.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 14, 2011, 10:14:39 PM
Then it could be Plano School Stadium, Clark Field.  I was trying to find a good pictue of our stadium, but couldn't.  Try to look for Southlake's.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 10:14:48 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e9/Buildings_2_3_4.JPG/400px-Buildings_2_3_4.JPG)

http://planoeastpantherfootball.com/


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 14, 2011, 10:16:49 PM
The coach for PESH, Johnny Ringo.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 10:23:19 PM
(http://joepixel.com/dev/boblilly/cabc/images/stadium.jpg)

This it? Can't grab a interior photo yet-- but it looks like Jerry World.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 14, 2011, 10:25:16 PM
yep that is it. 


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 10:27:40 PM
Johnny Ringo

By David McNabb
 
After 27 years of coming to the Texas High School Coaches Association annual convention, Plano East head football coach Johnny Ringo left Wednesday afternoon as the president elect of the organization. The son of a high school coach, Ringo was one of the three finalists in a vote of coaches in Fort Worth who won in a run-off with Katy Cinco Ranch coach Don Clayton and Stratford coach Eddie Metcalf.

Ringo has coached Plano East and Coppell with a stint as an SMU assistant in between during the last two decades and is on the THSCA Board of Directors. His coaching pedigree goes back to starting in the middle school program in Austin Westlake. Ringo was a receiver on Texas’ 1983 Southwest Conference champion and is considered one of the pioneers in the philosophical change of high school programs to pass-oriented Spread formations after decades of the state having run-oriented offenses. His summer passing and receiving camps have become one of the regular stops for rising North Texas high school players.

At Coppell, Ringo was named Dallas Morning News Coach of the Year in 1999 and has been honored as the Dallas Cowboys NFL High School Coach of the Week in 2009, 2006, 1998 and 1996. He’s been selected District Coach of the Year three times and he has coached teams that have been in the playoffs 14 of his 20 high school seasons. As a head coach, his teams have an 87-63-2 record.
 
Ringo Resume:

Austin Westlake (1984-1992)
Uvalde (1993-1994)
Irving MacArthur (1995-1996)
Coppell (1997-1999)
SMU (2000-2004)
Plano East 2004-Present 
 
Playoff Appearances:
2009 – Plano East...Area Finalist, 7-4 Record
2006 – Plano East…Regional Finalist, 10-3 Record (Plano East’s 10th Consecutive Year in the Playoffs)
2005 – Plano East…Bi-District Finalist
2004 – Plano East…Area Finalist
1999 – Coppell…1st playoff appearance since 1963 (Finished with 11-2 record in 3rd year)
1996 – Irving MacArthur (Program had a 13 game losing streak prior to Coach Ringo…went 9-2 in the 2nd year.)
1994 – Uvalde (Went 10-1 in 2nd Year)
 



Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 10:30:30 PM
yep that is it. 
:o


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 14, 2011, 10:31:09 PM
This will give you a small look at Southlake.


http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/north_america/united_states/texas/southlake_dragon.shtml


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 10:41:05 PM
yep that is it. 
That Rex Teter photography has them blocked so you can't copy pictures.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 10:44:53 PM
So this is also where GMac and Chase Daniel played?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 14, 2011, 10:50:09 PM
nice stadium  8)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/10/28623470817.png) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/501434/7858930)(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/10/28623493883.png) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/501436/7734686)


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 11:00:37 PM
Our team is ranked 9442 nationally, but they have a lot of heart. Most of them have to "put up hay" or some other work with their Dads before or after practice. I can't find a picture of the stadium (I will) but it doesn't really have a parking lot. Everyone justs parks along the road.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: XBAMA on October 14, 2011, 11:12:59 PM
found my old hometown Lobo's Stadium  8)

(http://img1.UploadScreenshot.com/images/main/10/28700102123.png) (http://www.UploadScreenshot.com/image/501468/342952)


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 14, 2011, 11:52:47 PM
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.143032479109624.38405.143031765776362&type=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruGROKy4G7o

We decided to go ALL out with the luxury skyboxes and press facilities.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 15, 2011, 10:04:53 AM
Yes, that is where they played.  Also, the picture does not show it after the seating has been enlarged.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 15, 2011, 10:12:26 AM
Yes, that is where they played.  Also, the picture does not show it after the seating has been enlarged.
Maybe back when TS was still free, someone posted Texas HS baseball stadiums. Scaled down replicas of Yankee Stadium or Fenway. I guess like a lesser version of Bama or UTx, they get TV revenue that pays for itself-- at least some! Alumni money?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 15, 2011, 10:19:54 AM
Southlake is a very affluent community.  Years ago the average income was over $100,000.  Many professional athletes, Dr's., etc live there.  The funny thing is you can see our stadium from theirs, they are that close.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 15, 2011, 10:25:40 AM
Southlake is a very affluent community.  Years ago the average income was over $100,000.  Many professional athletes, Dr's., etc live there.  The funny thing is you can see our stadium from theirs, they are that close.
I'll bet that number has doubled now. It is so flat around there-- I can sometimes put the map away and find the rig by just looking around for the derricks. Problem is--lol-- you can't throw a rock without hitting one-- that is the Barnett Shale-- it runs all the way up into Oklahoma.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 15, 2011, 10:27:57 AM
You are right.  The main problem, I have is a lot of them think they deserve special treatment.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 15, 2011, 10:32:59 AM
You are right.  The main problem, I have is a lot of them think they deserve special treatment.
LOL- I'm surprised you're not saying ALL of them think they deserve special teatment. I'll bet a lot of them go to the games JUST to be seen there.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 15, 2011, 04:04:29 PM
Yea they do.  I will say one of my proudest moments was when we were playing Southlake at home.  Jay Saldi's, who played for the Cowboys, was on the Southlake sideline watching his son and we were in a close game.  It was third and medium deep in our territory.  I called a screen pass and if went for about 60 yards and the player was  run out of bounds right near Saldi.  Saldi went crazy on the side line and was kicked out of the game.  We were able to run out the clock and win the game.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: cbbama99 on October 15, 2011, 04:45:13 PM
What team were you coaching, coach?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 15, 2011, 04:46:22 PM
At that time I was the OC at Grapevine High School


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 15, 2011, 11:24:20 PM
Yea they do.  I will say one of my proudest moments was when we were playing Southlake at home.  Jay Saldi's, who played for the Cowboys, was on the Southlake sideline watching his son and we were in a close game.  It was third and medium deep in our territory.  I called a screen pass and if went for about 60 yards and the player was  run out of bounds right near Saldi.  Saldi went crazy on the side line and was kicked out of the game.  We were able to run out the clock and win the game.
Went crazy with the officials like he was part of the Southlake staff? Arguing about the spot?


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: hscoach on October 16, 2011, 01:04:00 PM
Honestly, I don't know what he went crazy about.  I was just told about it.  I was up in the box.


Title: Re: Vandy vs Bama game notes:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 16, 2011, 01:21:49 PM
Honestly, I don't know what he went crazy about.  I was just told about it.  I was up in the box.
LOL #+