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Title: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: pmull on September 14, 2011, 09:31:13 AM If necessary, creating a 13-member SEC football schedule for 2012 can be done by teams playing unequal numbers of division games, SEC Executive Associate Commissioner Mark Womack said Tuesday.
"You'd have to have some odd numbers in divisional play," Womack said. "Your schedule may look different where you don't play everybody in your division, but you'd still have a division concept." Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division." http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/future_sec_math_13_football_te.html Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 14, 2011, 09:36:10 AM If necessary, creating a 13-member SEC football schedule for 2012 can be done by teams playing unequal numbers of division games, SEC Executive Associate Commissioner Mark Womack said Tuesday. "You'd have to have some odd numbers in divisional play," Womack said. "Your schedule may look different where you don't play everybody in your division, but you'd still have a division concept." Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division." http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/future_sec_math_13_football_te.html This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 14, 2011, 09:37:54 AM Can you say 'triskaidekaphobia' 13 times real fast, or do you have a fear of the number 13.
Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on September 14, 2011, 09:40:41 AM If necessary, creating a 13-member SEC football schedule for 2012 can be done by teams playing unequal numbers of division games, SEC Executive Associate Commissioner Mark Womack said Tuesday. "You'd have to have some odd numbers in divisional play," Womack said. "Your schedule may look different where you don't play everybody in your division, but you'd still have a division concept." Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division." http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/future_sec_math_13_football_te.html This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? Alabama. The Crimson Tide always trumps LSU. What's a matter with you SC? Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: pmull on September 14, 2011, 09:41:06 AM I guess expansion is necessary but the current 12 team alignment seems to work pretty good.
Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: ssmith general on September 14, 2011, 09:48:34 AM Why cant they add a conference game, or take away one of the out of division games? Is there an NCAA rule on that too?
Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on September 14, 2011, 09:48:48 AM This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with. Ugh. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on September 14, 2011, 09:56:34 AM Why cant they add a conference game, or take away one of the out of division games? Is there an NCAA rule on that too? Isn't it unpossible to have unequal numbers in two divisions and everyone play and equal number of conference games (assuming that each team has to play everyone in their division)? Adding a game doesn't solve the problem. Taking away a division game creates some unwanted tiebreaker situations, as SuperCoach pointed out. "Me fail English? That's unpossible." - Ralph Wiggum Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: ssmith general on September 14, 2011, 10:00:44 AM This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with. Ugh. They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: pmull on September 14, 2011, 10:09:19 AM This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with. Ugh. They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. IMO we will get #14 or more. Oklahoma is exploring their options and the link below says FSU is forming a committee to look at realignment. I have to believe that Commissioner Slive and the SEC have talked to more schools and know more than they are letting the media know about. http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31958179 Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: BAMADCHAMPSHIPS on September 14, 2011, 10:28:04 AM This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with. Ugh. They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. IMO we will get #14 or more. Oklahoma is exploring their options and the link below says FSU is forming a committee to look at realignment. I have to believe that Commissioner Slive and the SEC have talked to more schools and know more than they are letting the media know about. http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31958179 Oklahoma is not joining the SEC. They wanted to join the PAC last year. FSU is a good possibility. I'd would rather see VT or Mizzoo. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: ricky023 on September 14, 2011, 10:29:19 AM What about 3 divisions with the Top 2 meeting in the SECCG? This would give every team alot more incentive to push for wins. RTR!
Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: pmull on September 14, 2011, 10:36:41 AM This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with. Ugh. They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. IMO we will get #14 or more. Oklahoma is exploring their options and the link below says FSU is forming a committee to look at realignment. I have to believe that Commissioner Slive and the SEC have talked to more schools and know more than they are letting the media know about. http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31958179 Oklahoma is not joining the SEC. They wanted to join the PAC last year. FSU is a good possibility. I'd would rather see VT or Mizzoo. I agree with you about Oklahoma and I don't know about FSU. I mentioned these two schools to show that college football for all conferences is about to change. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: pmull on September 14, 2011, 10:40:24 AM What about 3 divisions with the Top 2 meeting in the SECCG? This would give every team alot more incentive to push for wins. RTR! Current NCAA rules only allow two divisions. Quote Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: SeniorTSM on September 14, 2011, 10:55:55 AM Will Texas A&M automaticlly be given a week off before Bama plays them? ;D
Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 14, 2011, 11:11:27 AM If necessary, creating a 13-member SEC football schedule for 2012 can be done by teams playing unequal numbers of division games, SEC Executive Associate Commissioner Mark Womack said Tuesday. "You'd have to have some odd numbers in divisional play," Womack said. "Your schedule may look different where you don't play everybody in your division, but you'd still have a division concept." Divisions are necessary to maintain for the SEC Championship Game, based on current NCAA rules. To hold a conference championship game, there must be at least 12 members divided into two divisions of six or more schools, "each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division." http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/09/future_sec_math_13_football_te.html This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? Alabama. The Crimson Tide always trumps LSU. What's a matter with you SC? #+ I like that answer. But most likely it is not correct. My guess would be the tie breaker would go to the team that has gone the longest without making it to the SEC title game. They already have this as the last ditch tie breaker right now and I think Arkansas got to Atlanta a few years ago because of it. Since Bama goes every year, we would always lose this kind of tie breaker. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 14, 2011, 11:16:26 AM This is a problem if he is right about that. Imagine if LSU and Alabama did not play each other and both went undefeated. Who goes to Atlanta to represent the west? I almost threw up just thinking about us getting screwed out of whatever tiebreaker they'd have to come up with. Ugh. They need to just make sure that doesnt happen with scheduling or find #14. IMO we will get #14 or more. Oklahoma is exploring their options and the link below says FSU is forming a committee to look at realignment. I have to believe that Commissioner Slive and the SEC have talked to more schools and know more than they are letting the media know about. http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/31958179 ^^^THIS^^^ They will get an even number most likely, they are just trying to make it look like we are planning to go with 13 to prevent future lawsuits from #14's current conference mates. They may not even know who #14 is yet, but this is a smart move regardless to show we could go with 13 and we are not going to raid a conference just to get to an even number. When the Big 12 collapses and teams are going every where we can take our pick without being blamed for causing all of the turmoil. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 14, 2011, 11:18:26 AM Will Texas A&M automaticlly be given a week off before Bama plays them? ;D :lol: #+ Nice one. Title: Re: Future SEC math? 13 teams would mean unequal number of division games Post by: Chechem on September 14, 2011, 11:34:15 AM Will Texas A&M automaticlly be given a week off before Bama plays them? ;D :lol: #+ Nice one. That is funny. Maybe TA&M can just fill in those open dates for the opponent schools; hence, it would solve the problem for Bama. |