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Title: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: pmull on August 20, 2011, 04:28:50 PM
Still no QB information.

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Running back Trent Richardson ran seven times for 39 yards.

Running back Eddie Lacy ran six times for 57 yards and one touchdown.

Safety Mark Barron had six tackles, one sack and one interception. He also broke up three passes.

Linebacker Dont'a Hightower had six tackles, including one for a loss.

Linebacker Courtney Upshaw had five tackles and one sack. he also broke up one pass.

Linebacker C.J. Mosley had five tackles and broke up one pass.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/08/just_a_few_stats_from_alabamas.html


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: pmull on August 20, 2011, 04:30:29 PM
I hope Jamos has a better report than Don Kausler, Jr.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 05:03:19 PM
EL and TR had good stats. Glad to see the OL picking things up. With MB, CU, DH, and CJ making the defensive plays, that tells me the OL must have been TCB over the DL line.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Chechem on August 20, 2011, 05:16:20 PM

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Details, we need details.  Where is our fly-on-the-wall reporter??


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 05:27:53 PM

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Details, we need details.  Where is our fly-on-the-wall reporter??


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Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 20, 2011, 06:20:57 PM
I hope Jamos has a better report than Don Kausler, Jr.

In response to Don's info, please don't be too hard on him, he is giving you everything that CNS wants out there, CNS said the same thing to us after he met with the media. He refers to it as internet fodder.

Now, to this afternoon. It was a hot but enjoyable day with a very good scrimmage with lots of good plays and then some bad plays. The intensity level on both sides of the ball was very high with both the offense and the defense having their moment of glory.

All of the running backs, receivers, and quarterbacks had some big plays and it was a very decent day for the offense but the defense had their big plays as well and had a good day. There were some long passes for gainers as well as some short passes with good runs for big gains but all of these were not on the number one unit. The same for the defense in that on their big stops it wasn't always against the number one unit.

This team can be very good, I think they are there physically but we won't know about the mental aspect of it until game time gets here. They showed a few weaknesses today in a couple of areas but it might have just been a bad day for them. I think the players are ready to play someone other than themselves.

Roll Tide!!

 


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: SUPERCOACH on August 20, 2011, 06:21:24 PM
From the stats, it looks like we spent a lot of time passing.  Only 13 carries between EL and TR, plus all the pass breakups.  I suppose they are really working the QB's to try and zero in on who the starter is going to be.  This also implies that the running game is probably in good shape and they are not concerned about it.  Just speculation on my part, of course.  Maybe our eyewitness will be back with some details soon.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: pmull on August 20, 2011, 06:24:16 PM
I hope Jamos has a better report than Don Kausler, Jr.

In response to Don's info, please don't be too hard on him, he is giving you everything that CNS wants out there, CNS said the same thing to us after he met with the media. He refers to it as internet fodder.

Now, to this afternoon. It was a hot but enjoyable day with a very good scrimmage with lots of good plays and then some bad plays. The intensity level on both sides of the ball was very high with both the offense and the defense having their moment of glory.

All of the running backs, receivers, and quarterbacks had some big plays and it was a very decent day for the offense but the defense had their big plays as well and had a good day. There were some long passes for gainers as well as some short passes with good runs for big gains but all of these were not on the number one unit. The same for the defense in that on their big stops it wasn't always against the number one unit.

This team can be very good, I think they are there physically but we won't know about the mental aspect of it until game time gets here. They showed a few weaknesses today in a couple of areas but it might have just been a bad day for them. I think the players are ready to play someone other than themselves.

Roll Tide!!

 

Which QB looks best?


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 20, 2011, 06:33:46 PM
I think it is a toss up right now, they both made some big plays and both had a couple of bad plays. Really, I think it was a satisfying day, my opinion, for the players and coaches.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: pmull on August 20, 2011, 06:37:35 PM
I think it is a toss up right now, they both made some big plays and both had a couple of bad plays. Really, I think it was a satisfying day, my opinion, for the players and coaches.

I knew this much playing golf in Decatur today? ???


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: cbbama99 on August 20, 2011, 06:40:40 PM
Sounds like DBs and LBs are in mid-season form already.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: SUPERCOACH on August 20, 2011, 06:46:40 PM
Hey Jamos, you mentioned that CNS spoke with you guys after the practice.  I just watch the press conference and he looked tired, but really calm and at peace.  I take this as a fantastic indicator that he is very pleased with where the team is at.  How would you characterize his demeanor when he spoke with you guys?


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: SUPERCOACH on August 20, 2011, 06:51:27 PM
I hope Jamos has a better report than Don Kausler, Jr.

In response to Don's info, please don't be too hard on him, he is giving you everything that CNS wants out there, CNS said the same thing to us after he met with the media. He refers to it as internet fodder.

Now, to this afternoon. It was a hot but enjoyable day with a very good scrimmage with lots of good plays and then some bad plays. The intensity level on both sides of the ball was very high with both the offense and the defense having their moment of glory.

All of the running backs, receivers, and quarterbacks had some big plays and it was a very decent day for the offense but the defense had their big plays as well and had a good day. There were some long passes for gainers as well as some short passes with good runs for big gains but all of these were not on the number one unit. The same for the defense in that on their big stops it wasn't always against the number one unit.

This team can be very good, I think they are there physically but we won't know about the mental aspect of it until game time gets here. They showed a few weaknesses today in a couple of areas but it might have just been a bad day for them. I think the players are ready to play someone other than themselves.

Roll Tide!!

 

By the way, I put this on the home page and gave you an extra +25 e-creds (in addition to the +5 you get for being on the home page).

Thanks for the report and answering our questions.

#+


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 20, 2011, 07:02:53 PM
Hey Jamos, you mentioned that CNS spoke with you guys after the practice.  I just watch the press conference and he looked tired, but really calm and at peace.  I take this as a fantastic indicator that he is very pleased with where the team is at.  How would you characterize his demeanor when he spoke with you guys?

You are exactly right, he is pleased with some things about this team. To me, they looked like they were ready to play but I'm sure the coaches may differ. This was a very evenly matched scrimmage today and there was a lot of intensity as these players are trying to earn a position. As I told pmull, the qbs looked dead even, both of them had some bright moments but also some bad ones. You would think that they would get a little separation in the next two weeks, but both of them are practicing very hard.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 07:08:16 PM
Hey Jamos, you mentioned that CNS spoke with you guys after the practice.  I just watch the press conference and he looked tired, but really calm and at peace.  I take this as a fantastic indicator that he is very pleased with where the team is at.  How would you characterize his demeanor when he spoke with you guys?

You are exactly right, he is pleased with some things about this team. To me, they looked like they were ready to play but I'm sure the coaches may differ. This was a very evenly matched scrimmage today and there was a lot of intensity as these players are trying to earn a position. As I told pmull, the qbs looked dead even, both of them had some bright moments but also some bad ones. You would think that they would get a little separation in the next two weeks, but both of them are practicing very hard.

J, do we look like a top 5 team from what you saw today? Hopefully the good plays outnumbered the bad.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 20, 2011, 07:13:45 PM
Yes, there are some playing in mid-season form and you probably know who they are. I made a statement to my friend that when you look over at the sidelines anymoe you don't see any bench warmers, they are all players now. I was impressed with both sides of the ball.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
I gotta ask, how did our "Monster from down under" look today?


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 20, 2011, 07:25:38 PM
I thought he had improved since I saw him last but he should have. All he needs is lots of reps and he will be ok. It was a good battle between the offensive and defensive lines today, there was some heavy competition. I think the offense had a little making up to do since the last scrimmage.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 07:28:49 PM
I thought he had improved since I saw him last but he should have. All he needs is lots of reps and he will be ok. It was a good battle between the offensive and defensive lines today, there was some heavy competition. I think the offense had a little making up to do since the last scrimmage.

That's the impression I got. I think they busted butt to rise to the occasion today. Good stuff, J.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: rueben on August 20, 2011, 07:39:24 PM
I like what you said about "no bench warmers, only players."

It feeds directly into something I have thought about since reading Coach saying the team seems to have team chemistry and it is a whole new world when it comes to Red Shirting Freshmen.  I think we have 85 players who can play ( not counting injuries and such). That we can stick a freshman Guard in with a Sr. line and he cane play as part as that unit. Same with any player, relative to his position. CNS has taught these guys the true meaning of teamwork. And if they work for the greater good, it will pay dividends to each, as an individual.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 07:48:49 PM
J, how was the kicking game today? CNS mentioned that Cade Foster missed a couple of FG's today.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 20, 2011, 07:51:44 PM
Hmmmm, they got off to a slow start but improved as they went along.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 20, 2011, 07:55:43 PM
I like what you said about "no bench warmers, only players."

It feeds directly into something I have thought about since reading Coach saying the team seems to have team chemistry and it is a whole new world when it comes to Red Shirting Freshmen.  I think we have 85 players who can play ( not counting injuries and such). That we can stick a freshman Guard in with a Sr. line and he cane play as part as that unit. Same with any player, relative to his position. CNS has taught these guys the true meaning of teamwork. And if they work for the greater good, it will pay dividends to each, as an individual.

These players have the greatest mentor that they could possibly have as a head coach and there are some that realize this and are taken advantage of it. I do think that more players (non-starters) are better than in the past because they are buying into his plan.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 08:10:27 PM
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Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: rueben on August 20, 2011, 08:26:51 PM
I like what you said about "no bench warmers, only players."

It feeds directly into something I have thought about since reading Coach saying the team seems to have team chemistry and it is a whole new world when it comes to Red Shirting Freshmen.  I think we have 85 players who can play ( not counting injuries and such). That we can stick a freshman Guard in with a Sr. line and he cane play as part as that unit. Same with any player, relative to his position. CNS has taught these guys the true meaning of teamwork. And if they work for the greater good, it will pay dividends to each, as an individual.

These players have the greatest mentor that they could possibly have as a head coach and there are some that realize this and are taken advantage of it. I do think that more players (non-starters) are better than in the past because they are buying into his plan.

Remember when CNS would get mad as H-E-Double tooth picks, when people would mention "depth chart." I think that this was his goal all along. To have 85 first string players. Some start before others, not because one is better than the other, but because of which formation is going to be run ( Nickel v/s dime on defense...etc). The team may not be there yet, but we may see it within the nest two years or so.
  Before you all go and say I'm going way over board with this, think about this:

Take any member of the defense's first two teams. Now pretend you are an "O' coordinator with Bama coming up soon on your schedule. Tell me your first three plays.

Run against our our "D" line, along with Donta', Courtney and others?

Pass to the outside with Dre', Millner etc?

Pass to the middle / deep against Lester and Barron?

This is not even mentioning people like CJ Mosely or our DE's.

Most "O" coordinators will sleep like a baby before playing Bama. Which is to say they'll wake up every two ours crying and wetting the bed...

And that's not even mentioning the depth at "O" line, WR, rb, and yes especially QB!

And it's not just the size / talent that we have at each position, it's that Coach Saban has talked them into buying into the process. That each one knows the best way to make it to the NFL, is to bust your butt and do tings the right way. That the NFL still plays with teams, and needs team players.

Okay, I'll shut up now.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 08:30:12 PM
I like what you said about "no bench warmers, only players."

It feeds directly into something I have thought about since reading Coach saying the team seems to have team chemistry and it is a whole new world when it comes to Red Shirting Freshmen.  I think we have 85 players who can play ( not counting injuries and such). That we can stick a freshman Guard in with a Sr. line and he cane play as part as that unit. Same with any player, relative to his position. CNS has taught these guys the true meaning of teamwork. And if they work for the greater good, it will pay dividends to each, as an individual.

These players have the greatest mentor that they could possibly have as a head coach and there are some that realize this and are taken advantage of it. I do think that more players (non-starters) are better than in the past because they are buying into his plan.

Remember when CNS would get mad as H-E-Double tooth picks, when people would mention "depth chart." I think that this was his goal all along. To have 85 first string players. Some start before others, not because one is better than the other, but because of which formation is going to be run ( Nickel v/s dime on defense...etc). The team may not be there yet, but we may see it within the nest two years or so.
  Before you all go and say I'm going way over board with this, think about this:

Take any member of the defense's first two teams. Now pretend you are an "O' coordinator with Bama coming up soon on your schedule. Tell me your first three plays.

Run against our our "D" line, along with Donta', Courtney and others?

Pass to the outside with Dre', Millner etc?

Pass to the middle / deep against Lester and Barron?

This is not even mentioning people like CJ Mosely or our DE's.

Most "O" coordinators will sleep like a baby before playing Bama. Which is to say they'll wake up every two ours crying and wetting the bed...

And that's not even mentioning the depth at "O" line, WR, rb, and yes especially QB!

And it's not just the size / talent that we have at each position, it's that Coach Saban has talked them into buying into the process. That each one knows the best way to make it to the NFL, is to bust your butt and do tings the right way. That the NFL still plays with teams, and needs team players.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

 #+


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Chechem on August 20, 2011, 08:31:38 PM
I like what you said about "no bench warmers, only players."

It feeds directly into something I have thought about since reading Coach saying the team seems to have team chemistry and it is a whole new world when it comes to Red Shirting Freshmen.  I think we have 85 players who can play ( not counting injuries and such). That we can stick a freshman Guard in with a Sr. line and he cane play as part as that unit. Same with any player, relative to his position. CNS has taught these guys the true meaning of teamwork. And if they work for the greater good, it will pay dividends to each, as an individual.

These players have the greatest mentor that they could possibly have as a head coach and there are some that realize this and are taken advantage of it. I do think that more players (non-starters) are better than in the past because they are buying into his plan.

Remember when CNS would get mad as H-E-Double tooth picks, when people would mention "depth chart." I think that this was his goal all along. To have 85 first string players. Some start before others, not because one is better than the other, but because of which formation is going to be run ( Nickel v/s dime on defense...etc). The team may not be there yet, but we may see it within the nest two years or so.
  Before you all go and say I'm going way over board with this, think about this:

Take any member of the defense's first two teams. Now pretend you are an "O' coordinator with Bama coming up soon on your schedule. Tell me your first three plays.

Run against our our "D" line, along with Donta', Courtney and others?

Pass to the outside with Dre', Millner etc?

Pass to the middle / deep against Lester and Barron?

This is not even mentioning people like CJ Mosely or our DE's.

Most "O" coordinators will sleep like a baby before playing Bama. Which is to say they'll wake up every two ours crying and wetting the bed...

And that's not even mentioning the depth at "O" line, WR, rb, and yes especially QB!

And it's not just the size / talent that we have at each position, it's that Coach Saban has talked them into buying into the process. That each one knows the best way to make it to the NFL, is to bust your butt and do tings the right way. That the NFL still plays with teams, and needs team players.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

(http://ukbouldering.com/board/Smileys/ukbCustom/popcorn.gif)

Thanks, Ditch.  Now I can sleep well.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: rueben on August 20, 2011, 08:40:35 PM
I like what you said about "no bench warmers, only players."

It feeds directly into something I have thought about since reading Coach saying the team seems to have team chemistry and it is a whole new world when it comes to Red Shirting Freshmen.  I think we have 85 players who can play ( not counting injuries and such). That we can stick a freshman Guard in with a Sr. line and he cane play as part as that unit. Same with any player, relative to his position. CNS has taught these guys the true meaning of teamwork. And if they work for the greater good, it will pay dividends to each, as an individual.

These players have the greatest mentor that they could possibly have as a head coach and there are some that realize this and are taken advantage of it. I do think that more players (non-starters) are better than in the past because they are buying into his plan.

Remember when CNS would get mad as H-E-Double tooth picks, when people would mention "depth chart." I think that this was his goal all along. To have 85 first string players. Some start before others, not because one is better than the other, but because of which formation is going to be run ( Nickel v/s dime on defense...etc). The team may not be there yet, but we may see it within the nest two years or so.
  Before you all go and say I'm going way over board with this, think about this:

Take any member of the defense's first two teams. Now pretend you are an "O' coordinator with Bama coming up soon on your schedule. Tell me your first three plays.

Run against our our "D" line, along with Donta', Courtney and others?

Pass to the outside with Dre', Millner etc?

Pass to the middle / deep against Lester and Barron?

This is not even mentioning people like CJ Mosely or our DE's.

Most "O" coordinators will sleep like a baby before playing Bama. Which is to say they'll wake up every two ours crying and wetting the bed...

And that's not even mentioning the depth at "O" line, WR, rb, and yes especially QB!

And it's not just the size / talent that we have at each position, it's that Coach Saban has talked them into buying into the process. That each one knows the best way to make it to the NFL, is to bust your butt and do tings the right way. That the NFL still plays with teams, and needs team players.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

(http://ukbouldering.com/board/Smileys/ukbCustom/popcorn.gif)

Thanks, Ditch.  Now I can sleep well.

Sorry, even at my age I get a little carried away... :-[

But, maybe besides someone with a lil more exp. at certain positions, can you name one first team or second team Bama players you would trade for one from another team?


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Chechem on August 20, 2011, 09:10:27 PM
I like what you said about "no bench warmers, only players."

It feeds directly into something I have thought about since reading Coach saying the team seems to have team chemistry and it is a whole new world when it comes to Red Shirting Freshmen.  I think we have 85 players who can play ( not counting injuries and such). That we can stick a freshman Guard in with a Sr. line and he cane play as part as that unit. Same with any player, relative to his position. CNS has taught these guys the true meaning of teamwork. And if they work for the greater good, it will pay dividends to each, as an individual.

These players have the greatest mentor that they could possibly have as a head coach and there are some that realize this and are taken advantage of it. I do think that more players (non-starters) are better than in the past because they are buying into his plan.

Remember when CNS would get mad as H-E-Double tooth picks, when people would mention "depth chart." I think that this was his goal all along. To have 85 first string players. Some start before others, not because one is better than the other, but because of which formation is going to be run ( Nickel v/s dime on defense...etc). The team may not be there yet, but we may see it within the nest two years or so.
  Before you all go and say I'm going way over board with this, think about this:

Take any member of the defense's first two teams. Now pretend you are an "O' coordinator with Bama coming up soon on your schedule. Tell me your first three plays.

Run against our our "D" line, along with Donta', Courtney and others?

Pass to the outside with Dre', Millner etc?

Pass to the middle / deep against Lester and Barron?

This is not even mentioning people like CJ Mosely or our DE's.

Most "O" coordinators will sleep like a baby before playing Bama. Which is to say they'll wake up every two ours crying and wetting the bed...

And that's not even mentioning the depth at "O" line, WR, rb, and yes especially QB!

And it's not just the size / talent that we have at each position, it's that Coach Saban has talked them into buying into the process. That each one knows the best way to make it to the NFL, is to bust your butt and do tings the right way. That the NFL still plays with teams, and needs team players.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

(http://ukbouldering.com/board/Smileys/ukbCustom/popcorn.gif)

Thanks, Ditch.  Now I can sleep well.

Sorry, even at my age I get a little carried away... :-[

But, maybe besides someone with a lil more exp. at certain positions, can you name one first team or second team Bama players you would trade for one from another team?

A certain RB that we missed on 2 years ago who now runs behind a chicken mascot.  Trade a 2nd-team RB for him.

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Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: SUPERCOACH on August 20, 2011, 09:10:42 PM
Jamos, how did the punts look today?  Any consistency?


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: 2Stater on August 20, 2011, 10:10:50 PM
Hscoach, I see you logged in. Your thoughts?


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Jamos on August 21, 2011, 08:56:43 AM
Jamos, how did the punts look today?  Any consistency?

Let's just say, IMO, that there is still plenty of room for improvement. When these guys are practicing or scrimmaging I'm sure they work on certain things with their kicks, not just trying to boom one down the middle of the field and this may give someone the opinion that they are terrible when their kicks don't look just perfect. Mandell might have the upperhand in this battle but it's still two weeks before they start the season.


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: Chechem on August 21, 2011, 09:05:35 AM
Jamos, how did the punts look today?  Any consistency?

Let's just say, IMO, that there is still plenty of room for improvement. When these guys are practicing or scrimmaging I'm sure they work on certain things with their kicks, not just trying to boom one down the middle of the field and this may give someone the opinion that they are terrible when their kicks don't look just perfect. Mandell might have the upperhand in this battle but it's still two weeks before they start the season.

Jamos, thanks mucho for your insights and info.   #+


Title: Re: Just a few stats from Alabama's football scrimmage
Post by: pmull on August 21, 2011, 11:45:46 AM
Jamos, how did the punts look today?  Any consistency?

Let's just say, IMO, that there is still plenty of room for improvement. When these guys are practicing or scrimmaging I'm sure they work on certain things with their kicks, not just trying to boom one down the middle of the field and this may give someone the opinion that they are terrible when their kicks don't look just perfect. Mandell might have the upperhand in this battle but it's still two weeks before they start the season.

CNS called out Mandell in his press conference as having several nice punts. He also called out Foster for missing two FG's that he normally makes. He also said Maze did a good job in the return Game. Overall CNS said there is a lot of room for improvement in the kicking game.