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« on: October 20, 2016, 06:12:15 PM »

Not a huge surprise.


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Most memorable from that night were those fatigued assistants who were laughing. Just 12 years later, and four have either been or are college football head coaches – Fisher at Florida State, special teams/running backs coach Derek Dooley formerly at Louisiana Tech and Tennessee, defensive coordinator Will Muschamp formerly at Florida and now at South Carolina, and defensive backs coach Kirby Smart in his first year at Georgia.



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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2016, 08:31:33 PM »

It's like Coach Bryant, there's only one Bryant and one Saban. Fisher has had some success, way too early to know about Smart. Muschamp does not impress me.


 
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2016, 08:58:17 PM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2016, 11:12:18 PM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.



Excellent point. Coach Bryant was a head coach 13 years before he went to Alabama.


 

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2016, 06:17:54 AM »

Head coaches have a great big responsibility to see a whole program goes well where the Assistants just tend their own small plate it seems. Preparing for the next opponent per se and the HC is busy all the time. This is why I see CNS hanging around till he is about 70 or so and then maybe a few more years and saying good bye. CNS will be one that when he lays it down it will be over, no 2nd places. RTR!
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2016, 08:26:36 AM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.
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Head coaching requires an entirely different set of skills than just coaching Xs and Os.  Not all assistants have those skills.  Certainly they haven't had the opportunity to develop those skills as an assistant under Saban. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2016, 09:12:13 AM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.
^THIS^

Head coaching requires an entirely different set of skills than just coaching Xs and Os.  Not all assistants have those skills.  Certainly they haven't had the opportunity to develop those skills as an assistant under Saban. 

^THAT^

Coach JMc was wise to take the CSU job and learn about being a HC before going to the big leagues at UF.  I'd always hoped Kirby would take a similar route.  Now he's having to learn about being a HC at a major program with everybody watching his every move.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2016, 10:45:45 AM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.
^THIS^

Head coaching requires an entirely different set of skills than just coaching Xs and Os.  Not all assistants have those skills.  Certainly they haven't had the opportunity to develop those skills as an assistant under Saban. 

^THAT^

Coach JMc was wise to take the CSU job and learn about being a HC before going to the big leagues at UF.  I'd always hoped Kirby would take a similar route.  Now he's having to learn about being a HC at a major program with everybody watching his every move.

Coach JMc was a quick study too. He turned that CSU program around in 2 years.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2016, 11:01:29 AM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.
^THIS^

Head coaching requires an entirely different set of skills than just coaching Xs and Os.  Not all assistants have those skills.  Certainly they haven't had the opportunity to develop those skills as an assistant under Saban. 

^THAT^

Coach JMc was wise to take the CSU job and learn about being a HC before going to the big leagues at UF.  I'd always hoped Kirby would take a similar route.  Now he's having to learn about being a HC at a major program with everybody watching his every move.

Coach JMc was a quick study too. He turned that CSU program around in 2 years.
Mc did turn around CSU.
I am not so sure Georgia is ready to invest in their athletic department in time or money to give Smart the time he needs to get Georgia headed in the right direction.
South Carolina may be in the same situation.
The only college currently willing to 100% back their coach besides BAMA is Michigan.
Time will tell...
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2016, 11:43:03 AM »

Keep in mind that people often noted: "many of Coach Bryant's former players and assistants became head coaches... and then his Alabama teams put them out of business."

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2016, 12:04:56 PM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.
^THIS^

Head coaching requires an entirely different set of skills than just coaching Xs and Os.  Not all assistants have those skills.  Certainly they haven't had the opportunity to develop those skills as an assistant under Saban. 

^THAT^

Coach JMc was wise to take the CSU job and learn about being a HC before going to the big leagues at UF.  I'd always hoped Kirby would take a similar route.  Now he's having to learn about being a HC at a major program with everybody watching his every move.

Coach JMc was a quick study too. He turned that CSU program around in 2 years.
Mc did turn around CSU.
I am not so sure Georgia is ready to invest in their athletic department in time or money to give Smart the time he needs to get Georgia headed in the right direction.
South Carolina may be in the same situation.
The only college currently willing to 100% back their coach besides BAMA is Michigan.
Time will tell...
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2016, 05:33:34 PM »

One thing you have to remember. When CNS came here he put the end to stupidity unless you wanted him to make you look even more stupid. RTR!
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2016, 05:40:32 PM »

I think the problem is major schools hiring them and expecting immediate results. Saban had years of head coaching experience before he won at LSU and reached the summit of college coaching at Alabama.
^THIS^

Head coaching requires an entirely different set of skills than just coaching Xs and Os.  Not all assistants have those skills.  Certainly they haven't had the opportunity to develop those skills as an assistant under Saban. 

^THAT^

Coach JMc was wise to take the CSU job and learn about being a HC before going to the big leagues at UF.  I'd always hoped Kirby would take a similar route.  Now he's having to learn about being a HC at a major program with everybody watching his every move.

Coach JMc was a quick study too. He turned that CSU program around in 2 years.
Mc did turn around CSU.
I am not so sure Georgia is ready to invest in their athletic department in time or money to give Smart the time he needs to get Georgia headed in the right direction.
South Carolina may be in the same situation.
The only college currently willing to 100% back their coach besides BAMA is Michigan.
Time will tell...
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