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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2015, 09:27:54 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2015, 05:13:20 AM »

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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2015, 06:19:43 AM »



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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2015, 09:52:55 AM »

Problem with the cold weather theory, though, is that it was 51 degrees in Foxborough that day, so it wasn't like it was 25-30. For me, this is just another example of the Patriots doing whatever they can to get an edge.



I thought I heard the announcers say it was 20 degrees.


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Who knows.  I'm guessing that will be the Patriots excuse.   Likely they were inflated in very, very warm room.  The rules talk about the footballs being inflated in the locker room, so you have to figure for some pressure loss.  They don't have to be inflated on the field.  Bending the rules, inflating in a hot room, is something I can easily see Belichick doing.  As his disciple, Saban has been known to bend a rule or two.   
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2015, 10:36:53 AM »

Awww, every time the Patriots or Belichick win something there is always an uprising. Just about like what people do with Coach Saban. lol. RTR!
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2015, 05:48:21 PM »

Problem with the cold weather theory, though, is that it was 51 degrees in Foxborough that day, so it wasn't like it was 25-30. For me, this is just another example of the Patriots doing whatever they can to get an edge.



I thought I heard the announcers say it was 20 degrees.


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Not for the Colts game. It was that cold during the Ravens game, I think.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2015, 05:53:04 PM »

I don't think Saban and Belichik are really anything alike, other than being very driven. Living up here, we get mostly NFL coverage, so I get to see a lot about all the teams up here on the east coast, especially when it is a team that Ravens fans hate. Belichik is not nearly as warm a person as CNS, and is even most hostile with the media than CNS. He also has this aura of "win at all costs" that I just don't see in CNS.

Of course, I could be biased because I HATE the Pats and Belichik.  Angry Angry
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2015, 07:10:01 PM »

I don't think Saban and Belichik are really anything alike, other than being very driven. Living up here, we get mostly NFL coverage, so I get to see a lot about all the teams up here on the east coast, especially when it is a team that Ravens fans hate. Belichik is not nearly as warm a person as CNS, and is even most hostile with the media than CNS. He also has this aura of "win at all costs" that I just don't see in CNS.

Of course, I could be biased because I HATE the Pats and Belichik.  Angry Angry


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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2015, 12:17:38 PM »

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As a physicist, and having listened to Belichick's press conference earlier today, I can tell that what he said made a lot of sense from a scientist's point of view.
When the football is rubbed and squeezed, work is being done on the ball, and it will get hotter.  If you want, describe the heating as due to friction.  When the rubbing stops, the ball will cool back to the environmental temperature.  The time constant for cooling depends basically on the materials used in the ball, but pigskin is likely a very poor thermal conductor, which would mean longer times, other things being equal.
The air inside the ball, only a few grams in weight, will equilibrate with the walls of the football quite rapidly — seconds.
If the ball is still warmer than the environment when given to the referees, then they will be deflating the ball back to the requested 12.5 psi. By the way, just inflating the ball with a pump adds some heat to it. That is because the air is squeezed until the pressure in the pump is higher than the pressure in the ball before the air goes into the ball. The squeezing heats the air, quite a bit, but the air doesn't have a lot of mass.
So, now when the ball equilibrates with the environment, by cooling, the pressure will decrease, according to the Ideal Gas Law, particularly if the environment is significantly less warm than the environment where the ball was inflated and then checked by the referees. Obviously, it was a lot colder on the football field, and got even colder later in the evening.


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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2015, 01:27:15 PM »

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