Spread offense:

[hscoach]

Listening to Colin Cowherd the other day and he is saying that Saban's defense is being left behind or can't adapt/change to the spread offensives. However, I question this since Bama stopped Ok on 5 out of 6 drives in the second half.   My question to you guys is Bama going to have to recruit different type of players or can they succeed with what they have been doing in the past?

[bama57]

I got a feeling in the off season we will focus on controlling the ball and not turning it over. Didn't we have 5 turnovers? That isn't like us!

[pmull]

I don't think the spread gives us as much trouble as the hurry up does. The hurry up does not allow us to substitute situation players. We like to have one defensive front in on run downs and another on pass downs. When we can not substitute we get caught with the wrong personnel on the field. For example Auburn gets a first down on 3rd and 2 when we have our big run stoppers in the game and they go hurry up and we are in a 1st and 10 with our big slow defensive front in the game.

I think CNS and staff have to look at a way to play our base defense without substituting for every situation. That may mean smaller but quicker players in some areas.

However, if we can get a good run stopper in the middle (Cody, Chapman, Williams type), a good pass rush which we have not had for two years and good cover corner backs like we have had in the pass we can beat any offensive game plan.

[Marshal Dillon]

I don't think the spread gives us as much trouble as the hurry up does. The hurry up does not allow us to substitute situation players. We like to have one defensive front in on run downs and another on pass downs. When we can not substitute we get caught with the wrong personnel on the field. For example Auburn gets a first down on 3rd and 2 when we have our big run stoppers in the game and they go hurry up and we are in a 1st and 10 with our big slow defensive front in the game.

I think CNS and staff have to look at a way to play our base defense without substituting for every situation. That may mean smaller but quicker players in some areas.

However, if we can get a good run stopper in the middle (Cody, Chapman, Williams type), a good pass rush which we have not had for two years and good cover corner backs like we have had in the pass we can beat any offensive game plan.

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Bingo! This is what I have been saying, especially "smaller" players who are quicker and have more stamina since they won't be so heavy. Say, LB's that weigh 220-235#, DE who weighs 255-270#, safeties at 195-205#. A shutdown corner is an absolute requirement.


 

[roll tide roll]

Cowherd is the most dangerous kind of idiot, an idiot with a large mouth.  

I truly believe that he has a personal grudge against Coach Saban.  Anyone remember the things he was saying, for months and years, after Coach Saban came to BAMA?

Blown assignments do not equal a defense being "unable to adapt".  A quarterback having the game of his young life does not mean a defense is "being left behind".

Unless you are gambling point spreads mean nothing.  

The last two +14 lines meant was that everyone in the country was not paying attention to the work product being displayed on the field.  The Mississippi State game should have served as a warning to everyone, but since BAMA won nobody paid attention.  

Gus was playing with the team that he was responsible for signing.  Many of these players began learning this offense several years ago.

For Cowherd to say that Coach Saban cannot adapt, or is being left behind, is an insult to a top-notch boogerU squad and diminishes the achievements of a young quarterback in the highest pressure situation of his career.

Johnson's squad of multiple smaller faster d-linemen gave BAMA fits and did not allow the O-line to impose its will and physically dominate the LOS.  OU waited until later in the game, when the o-line was fatigued, to begin really applying the pressure.

If you cannot block, cannot tackle, cannot cover your assignment, and commit penalties you will lose.

With his stellar athletic career at a major university Cowherd should know this.

Oh, wait.

Roll Tide, anyway.

[Catch Prothro]

I don't think the spread gives us as much trouble as the hurry up does. The hurry up does not allow us to substitute situation players. We like to have one defensive front in on run downs and another on pass downs. When we can not substitute we get caught with the wrong personnel on the field. For example Auburn gets a first down on 3rd and 2 when we have our big run stoppers in the game and they go hurry up and we are in a 1st and 10 with our big slow defensive front in the game.

I think CNS and staff have to look at a way to play our base defense without substituting for every situation. That may mean smaller but quicker players in some areas.

However, if we can get a good run stopper in the middle (Cody, Chapman, Williams type), a good pass rush which we have not had for two years and good cover corner backs like we have had in the pass we can beat any offensive game plan.

I agree. It isn't the scheme but the young personnel.

[McBaman]

Good question hscoach, but I think it depends on what you mean by "spread."  Barn runs HUNH (sometimes) but they also run a multi-option offense.  The multi option part is what seems to give us the most trouble.  I think Bama D not only needs some different size personnel but also needs some adjustments to the scheme for the multi option attacks. 

[hscoach]

I consider the HUNH a type of the spread.  I agree with some of the posters on here. I think it will be important to find lock down corners.  They need to be able to jam the rec and reroute them off the LOS.  You are going to have to have safeties that can fill the lanes and come up and make plays.  The players are going to have to be more disciplined and take care of their responsibilities and not try to make a play they are not responsible for.  For example if you have the QB, you don't try to make the play on the dive.  I thought the Bama LB's played too close to the LOS against AU.  There are two ways to look at it.  If they are close they may get caught up in the mess.  If they are loose they may have angles on them.  If they are deeper they may be able to sort out the play better.  Maybe the DL just didn't do a good enough job keeping the OL off of the backers.  Finally, you have to be able to tackle in space and force them to your help.

[hscoach]

I left off a dominant pass rusher.

[2Stater]

I left off a dominant pass rusher.

This can cure a lot of ails. I think our incoming recruiting class will be a welcome addition in this area. I think A' shawn Robinson will improve as a pass rusher next year and hopefully, somebody like Da' shawn Hand can make an immediate impact.

So I guess what I'm saying is that A' shawn and Da' shawn will be making the QB sammiches. 

[Marshal Dillon]

I left off a dominant pass rusher.

Good point. If you have a shutdown corner and a legitimate pass rush, you will definitely mess up the spread offense. That's what the Giants did to the Patriots in 2 Super Bowls.


 

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