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Nate Oats from Buffalo.






https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/alabama-hires-nate-oats-as-new-basketball-coach.html (https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/alabama-hires-nate-oats-as-new-basketball-coach.html)



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So far, so good.






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More info on Coach Oats.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Oats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Oats)



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Well, well, well....  Byrne acted quickly and as quietly as he promised.  Gotta like that.  The credit or blame for this hire will all be on Byrne.

Coach Oats has his work cut out for him.  Hope he knows what he is getting into.

Meanwhile... let the 'oats' jokes begin:  Can't wait to see the headline... Bama Feeling Its Oats.

And more info.










https://alabama.rivals.com/news/nate-oats-named-alabama-s-next-basketball-coach (https://alabama.rivals.com/news/nate-oats-named-alabama-s-next-basketball-coach)



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Better than a headline that says...”Bama Misses NCAA Tournament Again."



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Well Coach Oats may have an idea about these players leaving and bringing in some good talent.  :popcorn2:
RTR!

Welcome to Coach Oats and his family!  ROLL TIDE!!!

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Well he looks excellent on paper.  I honestly didn't expect such a strong hire. 

Hopefully some players decide to stay -- although the ones with bad attitudes might as well leave rather than poison the team. 

Now we wait and see what he puts on the court.

Should I be looking for a buckle?


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Some stats I like about Buffalo:
Ranked 17th in the nation in assist turnover ratio.
16th in assist per game.
22nd offense rebounds per game.

Don't know if this has been posted:

https://247sports.com/college/alabama/LongFormArticle/Ten-things-to-know-about-new-Alabama-Basketball-coach-Nate-Oats-130593782/#130593782_3

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Wow, sounds very positive.

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I may have to find my buckle again!   :lol2: :lol2:

Great info, thanks for posting tis.



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Good stuff.





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Hawkins is either 6’8 1/2”, or 6’9”, or 6’10” depending where you read about him.






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Well we will see how he is in recruiting and I want to see his staff now. RTR!

So far, so good.  But they all look good the first year or so.  Only time will tell.  This guy does seem to have more facts/stats backing up the optimism than the last 2.

After so much failure for 25 years it’s hard not to get excited but we have to be patient and be open-minded on what he does in recruiting, development of players, and winning. I am very excited but I’m trying hard to control my enthusiasm to prevent a big letdown if things go bad. I will say, I was not overly excited about the Avery Johnson since he had no college experience to look at but I was willing to give him a fair chance to prove himself.


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I am still looking forward to the staff he puts together. Then, 2nd recruiting and see if he keeps any of the transfers. RTR!

First thing....he's got to decide if the potential transfers will fit his style of BB.  If they don't, maybe he lets them go and tries to bring in other guys that he knows will fit.  Also sounds like he will be looking for a different set of skills and style of player from what CAJ was.

I think that is the challenge, to find players and develop them. I can’t imagine he would not want players like Kira Lewis.


 
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Well this just posted and he sounds like you.







https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/nate-oats-on-alabama-players-in-transfer-portal-we-may-not-want-all-of-them-back/ (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/alabama-football/nate-oats-on-alabama-players-in-transfer-portal-we-may-not-want-all-of-them-back/)



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Coach Nate Oats (CNO) introductory news conference. CNO in the military means Chief Naval Operations, 4 star admiral (trivia info for Jeopardy if you make the show). He stated he had already talked to Kira Lewis & Herb Jones.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcwyHF8SrXU

CNO fielding questions from media.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSYBLIXDALQ

Time to start a new poll:

How many years before MD starts a "Fire Oats" thread?

___  1

___  2

___  3

___ 4

___ 5

___ more than 5

___  never

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo9AH4vG2wA

Never! RTR!

You guys are just jealous because I call out the bad coaching before anyone else does. In the case of The Hermit (Grant) about 1 1/2 years before he was fired and with Gottfried (golf course guy) it was 2 1/2 years before his sorry rear end was fired. Are you implying we should have kept these overpaid losers another 2 or 3 years longer?



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Some insight on how it went down:

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/the-story-behind-alabama-hiring-nate-oats-in-3-days.html

Gotta say: Byrne's decisive.


Love the last quote from Oats:

"... work hard, that’s the American dream is it not? You work your tail off and good things happen to people that work hard.”


I wish a few million people in the USA understood that last sentence.

You heard it here first, he won't be fired! RTR!

Great info on CNO, especially the clips on his working on plays with the players. Watch the videos.







https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2019/3/28/18285102/xs-and-oats-watch-new-basketball-coach-nate-oats-offensive-concepts (https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2019/3/28/18285102/xs-and-oats-watch-new-basketball-coach-nate-oats-offensive-concepts)



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Gottfried made the NCAA Tournament 4 years in a row, his first four years at NC State.  He made it to the Sweet 16 twice, and the second round the other two times. 

Might have been nice to see those results at Bama, instead of what Grant gave us over those years.

He inherited some major talent when he took over NC State. Plus, he was driven to prove Bama wrong which is a great motivator, but then he got complacent after time and relied on his own recruiting which got him fired. I think complacency & chasing coeds got him distracted at Bama. No way can you compare his first 4 years at NC State to his last 4 at Bama, which was very average. Plus, in 10 1/2 years he NEVER won a single SEC Tourney Championship, which is not acceptable if you are going to demand a winning SEC BB program. In fact, I think he played in only one SEC Championship which he lost to Misses State.



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Our new coach is nothing like this. RTR!

CAJ buyout info:






https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/avery-johnsons-alabama-buyout-payment-revealed.html (https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/avery-johnsons-alabama-buyout-payment-revealed.html)



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Coach Nate Oats contract:








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https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/alabama-coach-nate-oats-salary-contact-information.html (https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/alabama-coach-nate-oats-salary-contact-information.html)

Those perks seem reasonable. 

I thought about the cell phone perk for a second, then realized he has three daughters.

I thought about the cell phone and then realized he has recruiting to do. I am waiting now on the staff he puts together. RTR!

Seems a little over-the-top to me. He makes $2.45 mil a year but gets a $225 a month cell phone stipend. Same goes for the athletic gear allowance of $5000. Just seems goofy and unneeded.



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First recruit for Oats at Bama.








https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/alabama-basketball-lands-first-commit-of-nate-oats-era.html (https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/alabama-basketball-lands-first-commit-of-nate-oats-era.html)




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Well I still believe talent is better than stars any day. We will see. RTR!

CNO offered this guy real quickly after being hired so he must think he's a good player.  

Meanwhile, CNO is at work on recruiting.  Cecil's update:  https://www.tidesports.com/cecil-hurt-nate-oats-not-wasting-time-with-recruiting/



Also.....MD....the wording in this al.com article implies that Bryan Hodgson is being hired as an ass't coach.  Has that been confirmed?  Cecil didn't say anything about it.

CNO was already recruiting this guy and had offered him a scholly to Buffalo. 

It sounds like CNO is really on the ground running. Sounds like he is also a parents person also. He talks to parents and gets some back up advice for the kids he is after. I think if Lewis wants to play winning BB at Alabama he will stay. RTR!

Oates has said that Coach Hodgson will join his staff unless he is offered the Buffalo head coach job. He is interviewing for that position. Oates also said he may or may not retain one assistant from the previous staff. I assume that would either be Pelphrey or Pettway.

Thanks for the Cecil Hurt link. I ran elsewhere yesterday that Oaks was traveling to Destin to meet with Watford. If I am a kid on Spring Break in Destin I do not want to mess my vacation up unless it is of high importance to me. I think this is encouraging. Very import to try and get Lewis back. Point guard is an issue without him. No point guard on the team without Lewis with JR and Ingram leaving.

CAJ did not leave the program in bad shape. Hall will have to be replaced. We have some talent on the team like Smith. Javian Davis Fleming sat out last year with a knee injury suffered in practice. He is a 4 start post player that is 6-9 268lbs. Watford would be a great addition here. Getting Lewis to stay is very important. He was good last year and will only get better.

Smiths shoots 44% FT’s, a real liability on the floor. Herb Jones shoots 49%, but Jones plays excellent defense. Other possible key returnees are Reese & Petty. I’m not sold on Tevin Mack, no defense and hot & cold shooting. Also, we need Kira Lewis back in the worst way, without him we are behind the 8 ball. Diante Wood was a great shooting guard in high school so point guard may not be his thing, same for Britton Johnson who was a shooting guard at Mountain Brook H.S.



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Somehow I doubt you'd have cared if they'd made his salary $2.46M a year, so what's the big deal?

My guess would be that there are tax implications. He uses the cell phone and wears the clothes as part of his job, so that money might not be taxed.

Man I don't care how much he makes if he brings in a winning tradition in Basketball. RTR!

You are missing the point. He’s making $2.45 mil a year. You’re right, I thought he would sign for $2.5 mil a year and he’s worth it. It just seems cheesy (or cheap) to have a $225 a month phone stipend, which won’t save him anything if even it was taxable. Same for the clothing allowance. Like I said, cheesy for someone who is an instant millionaire and I just don’t get it. Does it really not seem strange or cheesy or maybe even funny to see such silly perks? Just wondering.



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Looks like he wore their butts out at practice:

https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Article/Alabama-Basketball-players-gassed-worn-out-after-first-on-court-work-with-new-head-coach-Nate-Oats-130789825/?fbclid=IwAR14_niluxLJQIgtngxrBCnpmj3sYlH-35yLTexy4dBdsWWfz4VzyoHdWFI

I like what I’m reading about him so far. It’s interesting to see him saying what we all could see; there are extremely talented players on the roster whose skills have not been developed.

I don’t want to get my hopes up because we’ve been disappointed so many times, but the early indications are all positive.

I agree.  I don't think he is an everybody gets a ribbon/playing time like AJ, but that is my opinion.

I wonder if those who put in for a transfer are working out?

Most corporate executives making ten (plus) times that amount have much more lucrative benefits to go with their salaries and bonuses. 

Just saw the article about the first workout by CNO with his new team. Looks like Antoine Pettway will be kept as an assistant. I sure hope so.






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It's probably standard across the board in the coaching world.  Not sure that there's a point for me to miss.  Pay him $10k more, pay for his phone.  Who cares?  I don't.

Hey, I love what I just read. I like how many coaches he sent after Lewis. maybe it works out now and I love seeing how tired they were. We use to not practice at Ranburne until we was tired, gosh we would be running through plays and huffing and puffing the whole time. I like what I see from day one. RTR!

Would be nice to see Pettway stay.  CNO needs someone with experience recruiting in Alabama and vicinity. 

I had the same question Coach.  If they are still on the team why wouldn't they be at practice?

You would think.  However, if they can't commit to being there would you want them taking practice time from the ones who are?

Just saw Petty has withdrawn from the transfer portal and will stay and play for Coach Oats.

Good news. Hopefully, someone will work with him to help him regain his shooting touch.

Shouldn't we start a new thread about him??   :lol2:

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I believe that Kira is also going through workouts/drills with the team.  I know he's at least been in the film room with Coach.

Interesting coaching change if you think about it.

From a former NBA coach who coached professional, developed players.

To a former H.S. coach who taught kids the fundamentals.

I wholeheartedly support this change.   :clap:

I heard Allen Greene (Auburn's AD of the last year or so) on Finebaum yesterday.  Unfortunately the guy is extremely likeable.  What I didn't realize was that he was Buffalo's AD for 4 years, coming in right after Oats was hired there.  He also gave him a new 5-yr contract in 2016.

Finebaum asked him if Byrne had called him and asked his opinion of Oats.  Greene said that he wouldn't discuss that out of respect to Byrne, but went on to talk about what a great man/coach Coach Oats is.

Well to hear the enemy say that is pretty neat. RTR!

I haven't thought of it like that.  Good insight.

Texas A&M made a bigger splash than we did by hiring Buzz Williams.

Could be true, Hanni.  Time will tell.

I don't know. We will be very good I believe with the coach we have now. RTR!

Oh, don't get me wrong, Preacher.  I think we made a good hire.  It just didn't quite have the "name value" that Texas A&M's hire had.  I believe Coach Oats is going to have more consistent success than we've had since Wimp.

AMEN! RTR!

Just saw Pettway is being retained and thst Oats finished 4th in the voting for National Coach of the Year voting.

Keeping Pettway I think is a good move. RTR!

New BB staff seems set:

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/04/nate-oats-finalizes-his-alabama-coaching-staff.html


Sure feels like things are gonna be different...

 #+ #+ Sounds like CNO is ready to go to work. RTR!

Kira Lewis will return to Bama.



https://thespun.com/college-hoops/alabama-star-freshman-kira-lewis-announces-decision-on-transfer (https://thespun.com/college-hoops/alabama-star-freshman-kira-lewis-announces-decision-on-transfer)



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This is so huge it can not be overstated how important this kid is.







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Yep, just heard in on the local news.   :clap:

With the incoming class we will have 12 scholarship players according to Coach Oates. He is saving the last scholarship for Watford. 

Job well done guys. RTR!

He's already off to a good start, but if Coach Oates can keep Watford in the state, we might as well go ahead and give him a raise.

No raise till the end of 3rd year anymore. RTR!

We can give him another $100/month towards his cell phone allowance. MD would approve.

$50 a month. Win something first.



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I'm with you MD. We need one game then think about gas tank of money or something. RTR!

Are there some guys on scholarship that red shirted this year?

Yes, one was red shirted and another miss due to injury and will red shirt.

Diante Wood: 6-4 206 G Red Shirt 4 star recruit, 22 best shooting guard in class, top player in Alabama (picked Alabama over Auburn, Iowa St, Wichita St and UGA)

Javian Davis-Fleming: 6-9 268 F Hurt in practice missed entire year. 4 star, 17 best center in his class, 2nd best player in Mississippi, (picked Alabama over Auburn, Cincinnati, Georgetown, Iowa St and Texas A&M)

Good.  Maybe you can tell me why they only have 1 scholarship this year, or is it one left?

We had the max allowed 13 on scholarship last year. Hall, Norris and JR graduated. Ingram and Giddens left. That opened up 5 slots. Johnson signed three in the early period. Oates added one he was recruiting at Buffalo. That leaves one he is saving for Watford.

Well it looks like those 2 injured players may have a chance to help the depth chart. I just hope CNO knows how to keep the injuries down. RTR!

Thank you sir.

Just saw Diante Wood has entered his name in the transfer portal.

Giddens & Ingram have gone to another school? Being in the portal doesn’t mean they are gone, unless they were picked up by another school.


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I think those would be the ones that coach referred to needing to stay in the portal.

I know, but what if they want to exit the portal & return? What happens?



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If they returned they would be at the Mercy of CNO if they played or not and that would not bode well for them. RTR!

CNO formally announces new staff...

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/04/what-nate-oats-said-about-his-3-alabama-assistant-coaches.html



Also, article about Diante Wood entering transfer protocol...

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/04/alabama-basketball-guard-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal.html

The link below is an article about next year's roster. It is a couple of days old and includes Diante Wood who has entered the transfer pool. Tevin Mack will be our only senior next year. We have a strong group of juniors and a good incoming freshman class. We have 11 on scholarship not counting Wood. Ingram and Giddens have entered the transfer pool and no one expects them back.

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2019/4/9/18301806/nate-oats-shapes-the-alabama-basketball-roster-crimson-tide-roster-2019-2020-team?fbclid=IwAR086itpddhn-bhX41XmfOoKzm1wVT9_H_dN_E2lrBV4XhNwsW5QteT_apY

If these players want to know how to move and shoot they are going to find this out. RTR!

I went to the Tide Pride Luncheon in the Coliseum (It was so early it was more like Breakfast) mainly to hear Coach Oates speak. He was impressive. He talked about his coaching staff, current players and style of play. He is full of energy and will expect the same from his players. He wants to be up and down the floor and score a lot of points. So far I have not found anything not to like about him.

Greg Byrne and Saban were other speakers. Byrne is another impressive guy. 

Basketball picks up a grad transfer:

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2019/4/14/18310133/west-virginia-grad-transfer-james-beetle-bolden-commits-to-alabama?fbclid=IwAR1cEU_7sXl7Qi8MdMrRGcuNXR8uXg9WLNkWPTVayImGyx_5BHoS2-AkxvQ

Yippie I Aye! RTR!

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We don't need no stinkin' point guards.

No, wait!   :lol2: :lol2:

So Saban is chopped liver?



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Saban needs some new material. I have heard him a few times in person and too many to count in TV press conferences and interviews. He gets to repeating himself.

Coach Oats' job has gotten a little harder in the last couple days.  Will Wade being reinstated at LSU doesn't help with the recruitment of top in-state talent Trendon Watford this year.  Memphis and LSU are considered Alabama's primary competition in that battle.  Now the top Alabama HS player for 2020, Jayden Stone, is leaving the state for his senior year (playing ball in Kansas).  Stone is ranked the 42nd best player in the nation, and his leaving will make the top prospect in Alabama the 173rd ranked player in the nation for 2020.  Yikes.

Well can CNO do what CNS does and go elsewhere and get good players? RTR!

Watford is delaying his announcement.  Seems to be due to lack of TV coverage at an upcoming event.

https://www.tidesports.com/watford-postponing-announcement/

I would think Coach mike and Duke will be our big challenge. RTR!

New BB staff on the recruiting trail.  No Watford update.

https://www.tidesports.com/alabama-mens-basketball-staff-works-on-building-roster/

Well done Coach. Keep hitting the big boys I love that they can only say no. Thanks for the updates McBaman. RTR!

The longer Watford holds out, the more I like our chance!

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