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Title: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: hscoach on March 21, 2019, 11:08:39 PM
https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Article/Alabama-Basketball-Avery-Johnson-negotiating-buyout-per-reports-130369937/


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 22, 2019, 02:43:42 AM
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It was reported on Thursday night Avery Johnson will no longer be the head coach of the Alabama Crimson Tide.

As of 10:00 CST, Thursday night there was no official news on Alabama basketball coach, Avery Johnson. No Alabama basketball beat reporters confirmed the rumors of Avery’s exit from the program until Michael Casagrande of al.com reported at 10:22 PM CST that Johnson is “negotiating a buyout for what would be a mutually agreed upon parting of ways.”


Many Alabama basketball fans are ready to move on from the Crimson Tide – Avery Johnson era. Moving on is appropriate but jokes about being buckled or unbuckled are not.

Avery Johnson did some good things while the Crimson Tide head coach. He proved top recruits can still be attracted to Tuscaloosa. His teams won some big games and while doing so packed Coleman. In many ways, he rekindled lost expectations for Alabama basketball to again be a solid SEC contender. He represented the University enthusiastically and with unquestioned character.

But on the court, the promise of a better basketball future did not materialize. The Alabama basketball program needed a change. Although he may not agree in the short term, a change is probably best for Avery as well.

https://bamahammer.com/2019/03/21/alabama-basketball-avery-johnson-parting-ways-crimson-tide/


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 22, 2019, 02:52:35 AM
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The Avery Johnson era appears to be nearing an end at the University of Alabama.

The school and Johnson are currently negotiating a buyout for what would be a mutually agreed upon parting of ways, AL.com learned Thursday night. The discussions remain active a day after the Crimson Tide season ended in the NIT.

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/avery-johnson-alabama-negotiating-buyout.html


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: ricky023 on March 22, 2019, 08:35:48 AM
Well I guess this is a wait and see situation. Yes he represented Alabama with honor but you have to win games and go to the Big Dance also. RTR!


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 22, 2019, 09:01:27 AM
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Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on March 22, 2019, 09:08:36 AM
If we're lucky, maybe we can get Texas A&M's second choice.


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Catch Prothro on March 22, 2019, 09:28:29 AM
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Some Alabama basketball fans have been guessing about the Tide’s next head coach for weeks. Put all the suggested names together and the list would be a long one. But, only one list matters. That list is in the hands of Greg Byrne and we doubt it has been hastily thrown together over the last couple of days.

Many Tide fans believe Iowa State’s Steve Prohm is on the list. As an Alabama alumnus and former Alabama basketball, graduate assistant, Prohm would certainly understand the challenges and the opportunities in Tuscaloosa.

Other bigger names have been thrown around by fans. Some are improbable, as in Brad Stevens and Rick Pitino. Kelvin Sampson and Buzz Williams would be popular choices but Sampson has baggage and Williams may be leaving the ACC for College Station.

Thad Matta and Fred Hoiberg would be home run hires. Steve Wojciechowski would be considered by many as a home run hire as well. The former Duke standout and now Marquette head coach saw his team upset by Murray State in the NCAA Tournament first round, Thursday night.

Ironically, the team that upset Marquette was beaten by Avery Johnson’s Tide earlier this season.

https://bamahammer.com/2019/03/21/alabama-basketball-avery-johnson-parting-ways-crimson-tide/


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: N.AL-Tider on March 22, 2019, 10:07:16 AM
If we're lucky, maybe we can get Texas A&M's second choice.
Who is that?  And why not go after their 1st choice?


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 22, 2019, 10:30:31 AM
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Some Alabama basketball fans have been guessing about the Tide’s next head coach for weeks. Put all the suggested names together and the list would be a long one. But, only one list matters. That list is in the hands of Greg Byrne and we doubt it has been hastily thrown together over the last couple of days.

Many Tide fans believe Iowa State’s Steve Prohm is on the list. As an Alabama alumnus and former Alabama basketball, graduate assistant, Prohm would certainly understand the challenges and the opportunities in Tuscaloosa.

Other bigger names have been thrown around by fans. Some are improbable, as in Brad Stevens and Rick Pitino. Kelvin Sampson and Buzz Williams would be popular choices but Sampson has baggage and Williams may be leaving the ACC for College Station.

Thad Matta and Fred Hoiberg would be home run hires. Steve Wojciechowski would be considered by many as a home run hire as well. The former Duke standout and now Marquette head coach saw his team upset by Murray State in the NCAA Tournament first round, Thursday night.

Ironically, the team that upset Marquette was beaten by Avery Johnson’s Tide earlier this season.

https://bamahammer.com/2019/03/21/alabama-basketball-avery-johnson-parting-ways-crimson-tide/




Time to cut through the muck and give some facts:

Kelvin Sampson: 63 years old, that’s not the future. Plus, he’s lost two jobs for NCAA violations. Excellent coach, though.

Rick Pitino:  66 years old and a lying sleaze ball.

Thad Matta;  51 years old but has had major back issues since having back surgery 10-12 years ago. He is an outstanding coach, but not physically able to do the job. A sad story for a really good coach.

Fred Hoiberg 46 years old:  Another outstanding coach while at Iowa State. Hired by NBA Bulls but fired earlier this year. Nebraska is getting ready to hire him.

Steve Wojciechowski 42 years old: Has been solid but not great at Marquette. In five years he’s been to NCAA twice in 5 years. Team has shown improvement each year.

Steve Prohm 44 years old:  Eight year heads coaching experience, 4 at Murray State, 4 at Iowa State. 83-52 (61.5%) with two Big 10 conference tournament championships. Currently, 6 seeding NCAA Tourney waiting to play Ohio State later tonight. Raised in Georgia, attended & graduated from Alabama.

Like I have said before, nothing is a sure bet when hiring a head coach for any sport.



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Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 22, 2019, 10:45:39 AM
Vandy has fired their head BB coach. Vandy has had a solid BB history & Nashville is sure more appealing than T-Town for most folks. We better not dilly dally too long.



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Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on March 22, 2019, 10:52:26 AM
If we're lucky, maybe we can get Texas A&M's second choice.
Who is that?  And why not go after their 1st choice?


I have no idea.  It's just a more attractive job than Alabama, so I don't think we're going to get their first choice.


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: McBaman on March 22, 2019, 11:56:30 AM
The "negotiating buyout" story is all over the place, including ESPN.  I'm guessing the AD has a top candidate in mind.

I like the idea of Prohm because he is a Bama guy already.  I'm assuming he has some passion for his alma mater.  This team certainly needs a strong dose of passion!



Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 22, 2019, 12:25:42 PM
The "negotiating buyout" story is all over the place, including ESPN.  I'm guessing the AD has a top candidate in mind.

I like the idea of Prohm because he is a Bama guy already.  I'm assuming he has some passion for his alma mater.  This team certainly needs a strong dose of passion!





He’s coaching his team in the NCAA Tourney so it might be a while before we know something. They play Ohio State tonight.











Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: ricky023 on March 22, 2019, 04:44:44 PM
Well if it is Passion: Why not Pettway? He should deserve a try at it. RTR!


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: McBaman on March 22, 2019, 07:09:51 PM
Well if it is Passion: Why not Pettway? He should deserve a try at it. RTR!


Valid point Preacher.  Antoine certainly played with passion.  I just don't know if hiring a 'first time' head coach would be a wise move.  Maybe though.



Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 22, 2019, 07:24:02 PM
Well if it is Passion: Why not Pettway? He should deserve a try at it. RTR!



There’s more to coaching than passion. We don’t need an untested assistant, but a proven coach.



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Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: ricky023 on March 22, 2019, 07:39:52 PM
Well if it is Passion: Why not Pettway? He should deserve a try at it. RTR!



There’s more to coaching than passion. We don’t need an untested assistant, but a proven coach.



 :wave:






I won't say your wrong but if we can get a coach who has a passion for Alabama then we might start winning. RTR!


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: McBaman on March 23, 2019, 09:08:03 AM
Well if it is Passion: Why not Pettway? He should deserve a try at it. RTR!



There’s more to coaching than passion. We don’t need an untested assistant, but a proven coach.



Wimp was an untested assistant when he became head coach. (At least that's what I remember.)  He worked out pretty well though he never got us to the top rung.



 :wave:






I won't say your wrong but if we can get a coach who has a passion for Alabama then we might start winning. RTR!


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: pmull on March 23, 2019, 11:08:14 AM
Well if it is Passion: Why not Pettway? He should deserve a try at it. RTR!



There’s more to coaching than passion. We don’t need an untested assistant, but a proven coach.



Wimp was an untested assistant when he became head coach. (At least that's what I remember.)  He worked out pretty well though he never got us to the top rung.



 :wave:






I won't say your wrong but if we can get a coach who has a passion for Alabama then we might start winning. RTR!

Pettway is a good guy and a good recruiter. But... he has several issues. He has never played or been on any other coaching staff than Alabama. He is not even the top assistant. We need a proven head coach. I have mixed emotions about even keeping Pettway on the next staff. We need all new blood including assistants, strength & conditioning and off court staff. We have to change the way we do things or be content as a wrong side of the bubble NIT team. There is no reason we cannot be an upper level SEC team.


Title: Re: Negotiating a buyout.
Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 23, 2019, 12:33:23 PM
Well if it is Passion: Why not Pettway? He should deserve a try at it. RTR!



There’s more to coaching than passion. We don’t need an untested assistant, but a proven coach.



Wimp was an untested assistant when he became head coach. (At least that's what I remember.)  He worked out pretty well though he never got us to the top rung.



 :wave:






I won't say your wrong but if we can get a coach who has a passion for Alabama then we might start winning. RTR!

Pettway is a good guy and a good recruiter. But... he has several issues. He has never played or been on any other coaching staff than Alabama. He is not even the top assistant. We need a proven head coach. I have mixed emotions about even keeping Pettway on the next staff. We need all new blood including assistants, strength & conditioning and off court staff. We have to change the way we do things or be content as a wrong side of the bubble NIT team. There is no reason we cannot be an upper level SEC team.




Excellent points but I am very conflicted about cutting Pettway loose. We have to hire a good, proven coach which is the main priority, period. Pettway is supposed to be a great recruiter but it will be up to the new coach if he wants to keep him. I hope we can get this done in the next 3-5 days.