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Never too early to start speculation. Here are some coaches who might be considered to replace Coach Johnson. I am pretty sure he is toast if he is looking for another job. Plus, our team seems to be slipping away from him.


Nate Oats 44-Buffalo


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Oats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Oats)


Eric Musselman 54-Nevada


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Musselman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Musselman)


Chris Beard 46-Texas Tech. He's a Texas grad & might not want to leave


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beard_(basketball) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beard_(basketball))



And this:


https://www.journalnow.com/sports/colleges/basketball/college-basketball-five-coaches-on-the-rise/article_ca793712-dcb8-5ba2-93c0-3e9b69d0109a.html (https://www.journalnow.com/sports/colleges/basketball/college-basketball-five-coaches-on-the-rise/article_ca793712-dcb8-5ba2-93c0-3e9b69d0109a.html)




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I really don't see Byrne firing him, but if he decides to move on voluntarily, I'm not going to be sad about it unless we finish this season without losing more than 1 game, and win at least two in the NCAA tourney.

With the way the team has played the last 2 games I don't see them changing any now. The first of the year I thought we might have a chance at the Big Dance but now I just don't see it. RTR!

I would also go after the coach at Gonzaga, Mark Few.

Why not? Would appreciate your observations. Also, do you think he should be retained?


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I have a small opinion. I don't think CNS likes seeing any of our sports teams losing. So if CAJ can not take the heat then firing him should not be that hard. RTR!

Not happening, he's been chased by bigger programs but turned them down. A great thought, though.






https://www.forbes.com/sites/briangoff/2017/03/27/gonzagas-mark-few-is-a-truly-rare-species-a-content-coach/#bb7c763482e7 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/briangoff/2017/03/27/gonzagas-mark-few-is-a-truly-rare-species-a-content-coach/#bb7c763482e7)



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How about Fred Hoiberg?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hoiberg

He was fired from his last venture wasn't he? I have to admire the guy at Gonzaga he is a faithful coach. I wish we could find that. RTR!

The coach we have now was fired from his last job as well.  I'm not sure there are many guys in the profession that haven't been fired.  Especially ones with ambition trying to work their way up the ranks.

I don't know who the next coach will be but I dread starting over yet again.  It does us no good to change coaches unless we KNOW the next guy will be better.  Otherwise we may very well find ourselves in the exact same spot 4 years down the road.  We need a proven winner, or if one is not available just stick with CAJ.  He may turn it around next year, or we may be in a better position to get a proven winner next year as a replacement.  I'm tired of taking chances on new guys and hoping for the best.

My list would contain only coaches that have taken a team to the final four, with priority given to those that have won the whole thing.  Probably a short list, and probably not very good odds at getting anyone on that list.

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I guess you make sense here because they do all get fired at sometime. RTR!

Wow, I forgot all about him. He would be an excellent choice. Very solid coach at Iowa State before he tried the NBA. He won't be available long, though. He's from Iowa so he may not want to go south.



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Kole Kubleck mentioned Antoine Pettway, current Tide asst. coach and #2 recruiter in college BB on the radio? What do you all think?



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I think AP would love the school enough to do it the right way. RTR!

A sleeper:

https://bearcatsports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1453&path=mbball

I think I'd like to see him get 3-4 years of head coaching experience somewhere else first.  Other than lack of experience being the top dog, I'd also be concerned about what kind of staff he could assemble.  Which brings up the question - how good is AP and the rest of Avery's staff doing when our fundamentals and player development is lacking?

Excellent points about Pettway. He can recruit, but can he develop? I would prefer to see him as a HC somewhere else, too. I love the guy, but we need a known quantity.


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I have a lot of respect for A. Pettway. I loved him as a player and he has been a good assistant coach. He is known for being a very good recruiter. I question if he is ready to be a head coach at any NCAA level but especially at a Power 5 school.

I prefer an experienced coach. That is easy to say but it will be very hard to find the right guy for our program. If we decide to go with a former player from the assistant coach level I would prefer Philip Pearson who played for Wimp and was Gottfried top assistant. He was interim coach and did pretty good when Gottfried left in mid-season. He was Mark Foxx top assistant at UGA until he was fired last year. He is on the Mercer staff this year.

If CAJ left this year I would not be surprised to see John Pelphrey elevated to interim coach for next season if we cannot find the right guy. It also gives Pelphrey a year to see if he can win like he did at South Alabama or under perform like he did at Arkansas.

Was Pelphrey not a HC at one time? RTR!

I would definitely trade Avery for the guy we're going up against tonight (South Carolina's Frank Martin).

We're sure to be outcoached and the game is on the road...I'm not getting my hopes up.

The game is at USCe. That gives them the advantage.

CAJ is 4-1 against USCe and Frank Martin including two wins in their Final Four season. USCe has only made the NCAA Tourney once in Martin's 6 full seasons at USCe. He had a good run at K State but that has not carried over to USCe. He is 54-67 in SEC play compared to CAJ 33-35. The last three years we have beat them being the more physical team.

I am not counting us out yet.

Scott Suttles

https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/20190227/hillcrest-mens-basketball-going-for-third-state-title-in-11-years (https://www.tuscaloosanews.com/news/20190227/hillcrest-mens-basketball-going-for-third-state-title-in-11-years)

If you're going to look at the Alabama high school ranks, why not Mountain Brook's coach?  He's going for his third straight in 3 years.

Under NO circumstances do we get  HIGH SCHOOL coach for an SEC school, especially Alabama.



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I hear Rush Propst is available... Wonder what he knows about basketball?  I mean, could he do any worse than what we've had for a few years?  :dunno:

We have the name, we need a reputation for supporting and we might get a good head coach. Not one in training. RTR!

We can hire him to replace Saban.



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Hey does CAJ know we have this thread going?? RTR!

AD Byrne has asked me to sit down with him over the weekend and break the news.  I'll try to represent CRS well.

:lol: :lol: :lol:  Had to give you an ecred for that one...  #+ #+ #+

 #+ I also had to give you an e-cred also. RTR!

If he does then I think I know what the problem is.  :lol2:

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Take a bucket of e-creds so he doesn't get his feelings hurt too bad.

As long as I can get CRS to reimburse me for the bucket.  :lol2:

On second thought, just use a plastic Walmarks bag.  :lol2:

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Looks like he listened to you. Good job.



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This is from another thread.



Quote from: Catch Prothro on Today at 09:28:29 AM
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Some Alabama basketball fans have been guessing about the Tide’s next head coach for weeks. Put all the suggested names together and the list would be a long one. But, only one list matters. That list is in the hands of Greg Byrne and we doubt it has been hastily thrown together over the last couple of days.

Many Tide fans believe Iowa State’s Steve Prohm is on the list. As an Alabama alumnus and former Alabama basketball, graduate assistant, Prohm would certainly understand the challenges and the opportunities in Tuscaloosa.

Other bigger names have been thrown around by fans. Some are improbable, as in Brad Stevens and Rick Pitino. Kelvin Sampson and Buzz Williams would be popular choices but Sampson has baggage and Williams may be leaving the ACC for College Station.

Thad Matta and Fred Hoiberg would be home run hires. Steve Wojciechowski would be considered by many as a home run hire as well. The former Duke standout and now Marquette head coach saw his team upset by Murray State in the NCAA Tournament first round, Thursday night.

Ironically, the team that upset Marquette was beaten by Avery Johnson’s Tide earlier this season.



https://bamahammer.com/2019/03/21/alabama-basketball-avery-johnson-parting-ways-crimson-tide/ (https://bamahammer.com/2019/03/21/alabama-basketball-avery-johnson-parting-ways-crimson-tide/)




Time to cut through the muck and give some facts:

Kelvin Sampson: 63 years old, that’s not the future. Plus, he’s lost two jobs for NCAA violations. Excellent coach, though.

Rick Pitino:  66 years old and a lying sleaze ball.

Thad Matta;  51 years old but has had major back issues since having back surgery 10-12 years ago. He is an outstanding coach, but not physically able to do the job. A sad story for a really good coach.

Fred Hoiberg 46 years old:  Another outstanding coach while at Iowa State. Hired by NBA Bulls but fired earlier this year. Nebraska is getting ready to hire him.

Steve Wojciechowski 42 years old: Has been solid but not great at Marquette. In five years he’s been to NCAA twice in 5 years. Team has shown improvement each year.

Steve Prohm 44 years old:  Eight year heads coaching experience, 4 at Murray State, 4 at Iowa State. 83-52 (61.5%) with two Big 10 conference tournament championships. Currently, 6 seeding NCAA Tourney waiting to play Ohio State later tonight. Raised in Georgia, attended & graduated from Alabama.

Like I have said before, nothing is a sure bet when hiring a head coach for any sport.


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Watching Ohio State & Iowa State (Coach Prohm, Bama grad)



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Prohm is now available after Iowa State lost to OSU 62-59 last night.

Iowa State loses to tOSU.   :facepalm:

I told my wife the same thing.

A damning article about Coach Johnson:





It also talks about getting Rick Petino which I am totally against.



https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/there-are-logical-coaching-choices-for-alabama-and-then-theres-rick-pitino.html

 :o :o Rick Pitino? Goshly one Rick in this program is enough and that's me. We don't need somebody to call girls or whatever went on. To much baggage there. RTR!

Just say no to Pitino.  Too many out there that do it right to take that path.

hscoach: Can you explain what they could be talking about specifically? What is a winning culture in the locker room? Lack of commitment by coaches, no discipline, or what?







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I thought maybe they meant Richard Pitino, the son, but maybe not.   ???

In my opinion.  Many times when things aren't going well, the players develop cliques.  They think their buddy should be playing ahead of others and in games, when their friend is not in the game, they may not pass the ball or not play as hard. 

So, the coach was not able to develop a “team” concept and a focused message?



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I don't think so.  The same thing could have happened if you had had a team Tua and a Team Jalen group in football.  I have said before that AJJ didn't deserve the playing time he got, maybe some of the players felt the same way.  Maybe some thought Reese should have been playing more.  These are just examples.  It is usually more common in high school, I think.  Remember when Saban came in and got rid of some players.  That could happen again if a new coach comes in.

I was re-reading this thread last night. One month ago, CAJ still had some support from us, but things collapsed and now he’s gone in the space of a month. Wow.

Well Md maybe somebody listened BUT: If the AD don't find a lot better BB coach then maybe he needs to be gone. RTR!

What about Pelphrey. He was good at KY. He didn't do to good at Arkansas but is he HC material? RTR!

He never coached at Kentucky. He was head coach at South Alabama & Arkansas and he was so-so at both. Time to look at someone else.

Ok I knew he played at KY but your right it could be time we look outside the box. RTR!

A few early names: Not on the list, but I heard Johnny Dawkins, UCF mentioned.

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/a-few-early-names-to-keep-an-eye-on-for-alabama-basketball-job.html?fbclid=IwAR03sXSBW1Ghm6lEtsewOMbyZ39BlU4_DqB2gajQyM1Oso-wenLGKC14Kpw

Byrnes' way.  Very interesting.  Thanks Coach.

Greg Byrnes addresses media about coaching search.



https://www.al.com/huntsville/ (https://www.al.com/huntsville/)



Basically, forget Pitino & Sampson.

I think Fred Hoiberg is being pursued by Nebraska. He’s from Nebraska.

Sampson is 63 and been in trouble with NCAA twice at 2 different schools.



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What about the guy that use to be at Fla.? Billy Donovan I think it was? RTR!

He's a great coach, but I don't see him leaving the Oklahoma City Thunder to come to Tuscaloosa.

Another one bites the dust.







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[https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/possible-alabama-hoops-coaching-candidate-off-the-board.html (http://[https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2019/03/possible-alabama-hoops-coaching-candidate-off-the-board.html)

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You forgot 6 years of David Hobbs.

I think everyone has....

But did you know Hobbs is an assistant coach for Steve Prohm at Iowa State?

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Mike Anderson fired at Arkansas. Vacancies at Alabama, Vandy, & A&M in the SEC. Might add LSU to that list, soon.



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Well one thing for sure we don't want none of those fired. RTR!

LSU?  Are they in the Sweet 16?    ???

Yeah, but their coach is in the crosshairs of the FBI.

Well I guess the CAJ thread is done we have a BB coach. RTR!

Good.  We had more threads about him than bb wins this year!  :lol2: :lol2: