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Title: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: bama57 on December 02, 2018, 08:03:04 AM
If Tua is healthy and healed does he start the game or does Jalen?  Out of respect for Jalen I would let him start or at least start at some offensive position!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: N.AL-Tider on December 02, 2018, 08:04:27 AM
Tua is our starter. 


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: 2Stater on December 02, 2018, 08:17:44 AM
It'll be Tua, but I expect Jalen to either play more, or have an additional role at another position.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: bamaphil on December 02, 2018, 08:20:42 AM
It'll be Tua, but I expect Jalen to either play more, or have an additional role at another position.

Tua is the starter if he's healthy, no question. But with a month to work in some additional ways to get a healthy Hurts the ball in his hands, I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the field a little more. We've seen both on the field a handful of time this year. I have to believe there's a play in the playbook where Tua is at QB but he gets the ball to Jalen in the backfield on a toss or lateral and Jalen tries to throw deep.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Red Elephant on December 02, 2018, 08:35:16 AM
It'll be Tua, but I expect Jalen to either play more, or have an additional role at another position.

Tua is the starter if he's healthy, no question. But with a month to work in some additional ways to get a healthy Hurts the ball in his hands, I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the field a little more. We've seen both on the field a handful of time this year. I have to believe there's a play in the playbook where Tua is at QB but he gets the ball to Jalen in the backfield on a toss or lateral and Jalen tries to throw deep.

Agreed, Tua is our starter.  If we play Oklahoma I think we will see Jalen more in order to keep the ball away from Murray.  We might not need to throw a pass to win.  Whoever we play they now have to prepare for two quarterbacks.   


Great win yesterday - the close games are fun.  These are the one's we remember and Jalen will be remembered.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: 2Stater on December 02, 2018, 08:38:00 AM
It'll be Tua, but I expect Jalen to either play more, or have an additional role at another position.

Tua is the starter if he's healthy, no question. But with a month to work in some additional ways to get a healthy Hurts the ball in his hands, I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the field a little more. We've seen both on the field a handful of time this year. I have to believe there's a play in the playbook where Tua is at QB but he gets the ball to Jalen in the backfield on a toss or lateral and Jalen tries to throw deep.

Agreed, Tua is our starter.  If we play Oklahoma I think we will see Jalen more in order to keep the ball away from Murray.  We might not need to throw a pass to win.  Whoever we play they now have to prepare for two quarterbacks.   


Great win yesterday - the close games are fun.  These are the one's we remember and Jalen will be remembered.

Tue story!  :clap:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 02, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
Tua is Bama's starter.  When healthy, there is no one else like him.  I think Tua has not been 100% healthy since the LSU/MS State duo of games.  He did not look quite the same vs. The Citadel or Auburn.  Instead of blowing out teams early, Tua had to warm up during the first half before he got his mojo back.

After his ankle injury on the first drive vs. Georgia, Tua was not able to set his feet or scramble well at all.  This was not the Tua we saw at the beginning of the season.  This was Tua playing injured. 

Having said that, Jalen presents an entirely different puzzle for defenses to prepare for.  He is better at scrambling and running, and he is right handed.  Because teams are going to assume Tua will be the starter, they will watch how teams have defended him.  So if Jalen starts the game instead, it would be a monkey wrench they aren't ready for. 

My vote is:  Tua starts if he is 100% and can play like he did at the start of the season.  Otherwise, Jalen should start the first playoff game and take advantage of the wrong defense to defend against him.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Chechem on December 02, 2018, 10:08:32 AM
TUA

No doubt


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 02, 2018, 10:59:11 AM
Tua because CNS does not believe an injury take away the position. Although, both players will play. We have another 2 in a row to consider. RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: 2Stater on December 02, 2018, 07:28:55 PM
I also wonder about the health of our team yesterday. We know Josh had the flu. Hard to believe he was the only one.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: McBaman on December 02, 2018, 09:20:32 PM
No way do I believe Tua will be 100% for the OU game. Maybe Jalen will be.  So, to me, it's irrelevant who goes out there for the first snap.  We are going to need them both to play.

Tua's practice time will surely be limited and that will affect how game ready he is.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: bamaphil on December 02, 2018, 09:28:05 PM
No way do I believe Tua will be 100% for the OU game. Maybe Jalen will be.  So, to me, it's irrelevant who goes out there for the first snap.  We are going to need them both to play.

Tua's practice time will surely be limited and that will affect how game ready he is.

I don’t think OU’s defense would be capable of stopping Mac Jones. Now they don’t know if they have to face Tua or Jalen. Bama’s going to score at least 50.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 02, 2018, 10:17:36 PM
No way do I believe Tua will be 100% for the OU game. Maybe Jalen will be.  So, to me, it's irrelevant who goes out there for the first snap.  We are going to need them both to play.

Tua's practice time will surely be limited and that will affect how game ready he is.



Agree, but they don't have practice for the next two weeks per Saban. Physical therapy can work wonders nowadays and he will have daily therapy, I bet. I think in a month, Jalen will be 100% and Tua 88% to 91%, which is still pretty good. Tua will start, but we will have Jalen ready.



 :dog:














Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: pmull on December 03, 2018, 07:02:36 AM
I think Tua will start and fan favorite Jalen will play.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 03, 2018, 08:06:20 AM
Either way we have the greatest backup in college football to go to. RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 03, 2018, 11:28:18 AM
Either way we have the greatest backup in college football to go to. RTR!



BINGO!





Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: lstephen on December 03, 2018, 12:24:09 PM
People heal at different rates.  Jalen's recovery from his High ankle sprain has been remarkable.  Hopefully Tua's will be just as quick.  If healthy, I think Tua.  More importantly, I think, is the mental and physical recovery of everyone else.  With 2 weeks "off" we may look like the team that "processed" every team played up until LSU.  I think LSU/MSU took more of a physical toll than anyone knows.

ROLL TIDE!!!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 03, 2018, 03:02:50 PM
Hey brother lstephen I think you hit the nail square on the haed there buddy. LSU took a big toll and then MSU took what was left that is 2 top ranked teams in a row. We had I think as bad of a schedule as Georgia. RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 03, 2018, 04:07:02 PM
I would love to see Jalen dominate Oklahoma and then Tua come back in time to dominate Clemson.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: bama57 on December 03, 2018, 04:24:10 PM
I would love to see Jalen dominate Oklahoma and then Tua come back in time to dominate Clemson.
me too!  #+


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 03, 2018, 04:36:33 PM
I would love to see Jalen dominate Oklahoma and then Tua come back in time to dominate Clemson.




Proverbs 1:19 So are the ways of everyone who is greedy for gain. It takes away the life of its owners.




 :angel:











Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 03, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, proclaiming victory, mighty to save.”

Isaiah 63:1 NIV


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 03, 2018, 08:37:53 PM
Then I said to them: What is this high place you go to?’” (It is called Bamah to this day.)

Ezekiel 20:29 NIV


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: N.AL-Tider on December 04, 2018, 07:11:17 AM
Then I said to them: What is this high place you go to?’” (It is called Bamah to this day.)

Ezekiel 20:29 NIV
#+ #+ #+  Ecred for proving that God really is a Bama fan.  Further proof?  He made our blood the color Crimson...  ;)


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 04, 2018, 07:38:43 AM
Well if your using the niv to prove something your probably going down the wrong alley brethren. RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: N.AL-Tider on December 04, 2018, 07:55:49 AM
Well if your using the niv to prove something your probably going down the wrong alley brethren. RTR!
Preacher, the KJV states that verse pretty much the same...


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 04, 2018, 09:28:52 AM
Well if your using the niv to prove something your probably going down the wrong alley brethren. RTR!

Jesus didn't speak King James English when he was traveling around Galilee.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on December 04, 2018, 09:49:51 AM
Well if your using the niv to prove something your probably going down the wrong alley brethren. RTR!

Jesus didn't speak King James English when he was traveling around Galilee.

Will need confirmation from Old Tider.  He was skipping rocks in the Red Sea with Moses when he was still in short pants.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 04, 2018, 09:59:35 AM
Well if your using the niv to prove something your probably going down the wrong alley brethren. RTR!

Jesus didn't speak King James English when he was traveling around Galilee.

Will need confirmation from Old Tider.  He was skipping rocks in the Red Sea with Moses when he was still in short pants.

:lol2: :lol3:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 04, 2018, 02:52:56 PM
Well if your using the niv to prove something your probably going down the wrong alley brethren. RTR!

Jesus didn't speak King James English when he was traveling around Galilee.

Will need confirmation from Old Tider.  He was skipping rocks in the Red Sea with Moses when he was still in short pants.

:lol2: :lol3:


How do you know what language Jesus spoke when he was traveling and spreading the Gospel? RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Chechem on December 04, 2018, 03:12:34 PM
Well if your using the niv to prove something your probably going down the wrong alley brethren. RTR!

Jesus didn't speak King James English when he was traveling around Galilee.

Will need confirmation from Old Tider.  He was skipping rocks in the Red Sea with Moses when he was still in short pants.

:lol2: :lol3:
How do you know what language Jesus spoke when he was traveling and spreading the Gospel? RTR!

Seriously?

Aramaic (Galilean dialect)


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 04, 2018, 03:27:12 PM
 :lol: :lol: some learning coming out.  :clap: :clap:, RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: 2Stater on December 04, 2018, 03:28:45 PM
:lol: :lol: some learning coming out.  :clap: :clap:, RTR!

I bet he taught King James everything he knew, though.  :worship:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Chechem on December 04, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
:lol: :lol: some learning coming out.  :clap: :clap:, RTR!

I bet he taught King James everything he knew, though.  :worship:

The Pope and Israeli President argued over it a while back.  The Pope won.
 :lol2:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 04, 2018, 03:53:03 PM
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 26:14 King James Version


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Chechem on December 04, 2018, 03:57:13 PM
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 26:14 King James Version

The 48 scholars who translated for King James didn't speak Aramaic.   8)

Don't challenge me on this Biblical Jeopardy stuff.  I took enough of this in college to bury the Vatican.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: 2Stater on December 04, 2018, 03:59:19 PM
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 26:14 King James Version

The 48 scholars who translated for King James didn't speak Aramaic.   8)

Don't challenge me on this Biblical Jeopardy stuff.  I took enough of this in college to bury the Vatican.

I took Aramaic 101. It's pretty spot on.  :lol2:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Chechem on December 04, 2018, 04:00:56 PM
...

I took Aramaic 101. It's pretty spot on.  :lol2:

Galilean or Jerusalemic?   :lol3:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: N.AL-Tider on December 04, 2018, 04:02:47 PM
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 26:14 King James Version
I never knew that Saul was hanging around UGA fans...


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: 2Stater on December 04, 2018, 04:02:58 PM
...

I took Aramaic 101. It's pretty spot on.  :lol2:

Galilean or Jerusalemic?   :lol3:

I forgot what my professor's name was. They both sound familiar. :think:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: Chechem on December 04, 2018, 04:05:47 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/05/27/what-language-did-jesus-speak-the-pope-and-israels-prime-minister-disagree/?utm_term=.807337f6b044

Link to story about the Pope correcting Netanyahu, who said "Hebrew".   :lol2: :lol2:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 04, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 26:14 King James Version
I never knew that Saul was hanging around UGA fans...

And why was he kicking them?


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: N.AL-Tider on December 04, 2018, 04:12:51 PM
And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Acts 26:14 King James Version
I never knew that Saul was hanging around UGA fans...

And why was he kicking them?
Come on SC, some things are pretty obvious...   ;)


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 04, 2018, 04:44:35 PM
Well I never knew any of the languages except when Jesus called me to preach I knew ever word he said. I also have/or am working on my 12 semester out of the SWBTS @ FT. Worth. RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: bamaphil on December 05, 2018, 12:18:35 AM
Aramaic was Jesus’ native tongue. It’s almost certain he and the disciples knew Koine Greek from childhood, possible that he and they did much of their public teaching in Greek.

All English translations, from the KJV to moderns, are translated from Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. The differences between the KJV and modern translations result from modern translators having vastly more and older ancient manuscripts to work with, and changes in the English language.

There’s nothing wrong with preferring the KJV nor preferring a reliable modern translation. I preach from the ESV, finding it to be the best combination of accuracy and readability.


(This thread took a strange turn, BTW.) :lol2:


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 05, 2018, 09:37:47 AM
Aramaic was Jesus’ native tongue. It’s almost certain he and the disciples knew Koine Greek from childhood, possible that he and they did much of their public teaching in Greek.

All English translations, from the KJV to moderns, are translated from Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. The differences between the KJV and modern translations result from modern translators having vastly more and older ancient manuscripts to work with, and changes in the English language.

There’s nothing wrong with preferring the KJV nor preferring a reliable modern translation. I preach from the ESV, finding it to be the best combination of accuracy and readability.


(This thread took a strange turn, BTW.) :lol2:


bamaphil, do you find the ESV to be much easier or why? The reason I stay the KJV is because our English words today do not always mean the same thing that was inspired back when the geneva bible was written which is where the KJV comes from except the footnotes were left out. This is my opinion of learning. RTR!


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: bamaphil on December 05, 2018, 12:56:10 PM
Aramaic was Jesus’ native tongue. It’s almost certain he and the disciples knew Koine Greek from childhood, possible that he and they did much of their public teaching in Greek.

All English translations, from the KJV to moderns, are translated from Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. The differences between the KJV and modern translations result from modern translators having vastly more and older ancient manuscripts to work with, and changes in the English language.

There’s nothing wrong with preferring the KJV nor preferring a reliable modern translation. I preach from the ESV, finding it to be the best combination of accuracy and readability.


(This thread took a strange turn, BTW.) :lol2:


bamaphil, do you find the ESV to be much easier or why? The reason I stay the KJV is because our English words today do not always mean the same thing that was inspired back when the geneva bible was written which is where the KJV comes from except the footnotes were left out. This is my opinion of learning. RTR!

I use the ESV in part because the English language has changed and people today don’t use English the way they did in 1611, and in part because the discovery of thousands and thousands more ancient manuscripts, some dating as early as the second century AD, give us a better understanding of the original writings.

I believe wholeheartedly that the original γραφή were the inspired, inerrant word of God. I do not believe any English translation is more or less inspired than any other. Some are more accurate than others, but I find nothing in the Scriptures that supports the idea that an English translation would be inspired.


Title: Re: Who starts at quarterback in the playoff game
Post by: ricky023 on December 05, 2018, 01:03:34 PM
Aramaic was Jesus’ native tongue. It’s almost certain he and the disciples knew Koine Greek from childhood, possible that he and they did much of their public teaching in Greek.

All English translations, from the KJV to moderns, are translated from Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. The differences between the KJV and modern translations result from modern translators having vastly more and older ancient manuscripts to work with, and changes in the English language.

There’s nothing wrong with preferring the KJV nor preferring a reliable modern translation. I preach from the ESV, finding it to be the best combination of accuracy and readability.


(This thread took a strange turn, BTW.) :lol2:


bamaphil, do you find the ESV to be much easier or why? The reason I stay the KJV is because our English words today do not always mean the same thing that was inspired back when the geneva bible was written which is where the KJV comes from except the footnotes were left out. This is my opinion of learning. RTR!

I use the ESV in part because the English language has changed and people today don’t use English the way they did in 1611, and in part because the discovery of thousands and thousands more ancient manuscripts, some dating as early as the second century AD, give us a better understanding of the original writings.

I believe wholeheartedly that the original γραφή were the inspired, inerrant word of God. I do not believe any English translation is more or less inspired than any other. Some are more accurate than others, but I find nothing in the Scriptures that supports the idea that an English translation would be inspired.


I thank you much for that description. I sure wish we could set down sometime and talk one on one. I am presently trying to finish up my discipleship studies through the SWBTS out of FT. Worth with DR. Bill Vinson as my professor. I will now have 12 semesters and still don't know nothing. RTR!