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Title: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: ricky023 on November 27, 2018, 04:50:13 PM
http://www.wbrc.com/2018/11/27/gus-malzahn-accept-reduced-buyout-remain-auburn/ :pray:


I wonder if this is really working. RTR!


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: lstephen on November 27, 2018, 04:59:04 PM
WOW!


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: carl childers on November 27, 2018, 05:14:18 PM
That is the most disfunctional athletic department I have ever heard of.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: crimson13 on November 27, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
This is WEIRD on so many levels!

So, this means that after this agreement, they can fire him for less money.  "I know you are thinking of firing me, and paying me 32 million to leave, but if you let me stay awhile, you can keep some of your money."

If they don't want him bad enough to pay him 32 million to leave, they for certain won't keep him if firing him is a bargain.

What kind of math do they teach over there?


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 27, 2018, 06:46:48 PM
Only some morons would think that is a good deal...wait, never mind... :facepalm:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: McBaman on November 27, 2018, 08:21:42 PM
This makes no business sense for Gus unless there is some job security aspect included that hasn't come out yet.  Without that, if Gus' agent signed off on this deal, Gus should get a new agent.

Related....memories of Jetgate from Tubs...

https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2018/11/jetgates-tommy-tuberville-on-bob-stoops-reports-this-is-typical-auburn.html#incart_river_index



Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: ricky023 on November 27, 2018, 08:38:57 PM
Well Tubbs remarks makes more sense than most might think. RTR!


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Chechem on November 27, 2018, 10:03:22 PM
B.S.

No way it's true.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 27, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
B.S.

No way it's true.

^^^THIS


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: 2Stater on November 28, 2018, 05:47:57 AM
Whether itís true or not, the level of dysfunction with their program is very high and Iím enjoying every minute of it.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Chechem on November 28, 2018, 06:05:57 AM
Whether itís true or not, the level of dysfunction with their program is very high and Iím enjoying every minute of it.

What a gift this gives all other SEC teams during recruiting season.  NO PLAYER IN HIS RIGHT MIND would choose Boogerland in this climate.

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 28, 2018, 06:08:22 AM
Whether itís true or not, the level of dysfunction with their program is very high and Iím enjoying every minute of it.

What a gift this gives all other SEC teams during recruiting season.  NO PLAYER IN HIS RIGHT MIND would choose Boogerland in this climate.

 :popcorn2:

On a related note, they can't fire Gus because NO COACH IN HIS RIGHT MIND would take the job in this climate.  :lol2:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Chechem on November 28, 2018, 06:11:38 AM
Whether itís true or not, the level of dysfunction with their program is very high and Iím enjoying every minute of it.

What a gift this gives all other SEC teams during recruiting season.  NO PLAYER IN HIS RIGHT MIND would choose Boogerland in this climate.

On a related note, they can't fire Gus because NO COACH IN HIS RIGHT MIND would take the job in this climate.  :lol2:

What's left?
NO AUB FAN IN HIS RIGHT MIND would buy toilet paper in this climate.  :lol2:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on November 28, 2018, 06:23:35 AM
I had the opposite reaction as most of you.  I think it's a fairly creative and productive move by the athletic department.  I'm not sure they could've come out of the deal any better.  They couldn't afford the 75% contract value buyout to replace him (and probably got turned down by a couple of their original candidates), so if they have to keep him, at least gain some leverage.  If he doesn't win 10 or 11 games next year - he's gone - and now at a cheaper price.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: pmull on November 28, 2018, 06:54:36 AM
They cannot afford to buy him out and probably cannot find a high caliber replacement . They are telling the fan base they are phoning in the season next year and will get a new coach at that time. Why would Malzahn and his high powered agent, Jimmy Sexton, accept this one sided offer. One day I will learn to try and not figure out the backward thinking that comes out of Auburn because it rarely makes sense.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 28, 2018, 07:50:21 AM
B.S.

No way it's true.
Reported on ESPN.  So it has to be true.   :D


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 28, 2018, 07:54:18 AM
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Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 28, 2018, 08:38:13 AM
I had the opposite reaction as most of you.  I think it's a fairly creative and productive move by the athletic department.  I'm not sure they could've come out of the deal any better.  They couldn't afford the 75% contract value buyout to replace him (and probably got turned down by a couple of their original candidates), so if they have to keep him, at least gain some leverage.  If he doesn't win 10 or 11 games next year - he's gone - and now at a cheaper price.

Sure, it is good for Auburn, but NO COACH IN HIS RIGHT MIND would agree to it.  What does Gus get out of this?  The privilege of being the Auburn coach for one more year?  :eyeroll: :lol2:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 28, 2018, 08:40:49 AM
Basically Gus would be paying them for the privilege of being the Auburn coach.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: bama57 on November 28, 2018, 08:45:10 AM
Kristi told him to accept the offer ???


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on November 28, 2018, 08:51:44 AM
I had the opposite reaction as most of you.  I think it's a fairly creative and productive move by the athletic department.  I'm not sure they could've come out of the deal any better.  They couldn't afford the 75% contract value buyout to replace him (and probably got turned down by a couple of their original candidates), so if they have to keep him, at least gain some leverage.  If he doesn't win 10 or 11 games next year - he's gone - and now at a cheaper price.

Sure, it is good for Auburn, but NO COACH IN HIS RIGHT MIND would agree to it.  What does Gus get out of this?  The privilege of being the Auburn coach for one more year?  :eyeroll: :lol2:

I'm sure he thinks that it will somehow work out better for him long term.  He's probably delusional enough to think he can at least raise his stock with a good year next year.  If he were fired right now, I'm not sure that he'd ever get another Power 5 head coaching job.  I'd much rather have Les Miles as a head coach, and he had to take about the worst Power 5 job in the country to get back in.

The restructured buyout is likely not extremely significant.  Maybe 10-15% off the 75% it is currently.  If he gets canned now (for the sake of argument even if not exact), his buyout is 75% of $42M = $31.5M.  If they lowered it to 60%, he'll collect his $7M next year, and still be guaranteed 35M * 0.6 = $21M, "only" costing him $3.5M and perhaps increasing his potential for future employment.  At the same time, Auburn would save about $10.5M for putting up with him for another year, assuming they'd have to pay the replacement at least what Gus is making.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: ricky023 on November 28, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Man I can't believe Gus wants to face CNS again but you watch CNS will let him one more so they will up his contract again. lol, RTR!


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 28, 2018, 09:27:33 AM
Man I can't believe Gus wants to face CNS again but you watch CNS will let him one more so they will up his contract again. lol, RTR!

This shall not be permitted under any circumstance.  >:( >:( >:(

98 to nothing EVERY YEAR!!!  No matter who the coach is.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: ricky023 on November 28, 2018, 09:34:38 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: you have it SC. I think Nick like Gus though he can win at golf and football. RTR!


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Chechem on November 28, 2018, 10:45:26 AM
I know Malzahn is an idiot, but even an idiot wouldn't agree to a $3.5 loss to agree to keep working for the same program.

Malzahn has an agent, who clearly isn't an idiot.  So this ain't happening.

Meanwhile, the Aubs will lose recruits and the assistant coaches will bail.

 :lol2: :lol2:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 28, 2018, 11:09:04 AM
Well I'm not going to do the math but...If they keep Gus for two more years then his buyout would reduce significantly I believe so at that time they might just go ahead and show him the door.  They might be willing to suffer through two more years of >mediocrity to put themselves in a better position to hire a top-tier coach...  :dunno:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: crimson13 on November 28, 2018, 11:50:34 AM
I had the opposite reaction as most of you.  I think it's a fairly creative and productive move by the athletic department.  I'm not sure they could've come out of the deal any better.  They couldn't afford the 75% contract value buyout to replace him (and probably got turned down by a couple of their original candidates), so if they have to keep him, at least gain some leverage.  If he doesn't win 10 or 11 games next year - he's gone - and now at a cheaper price.

I think it is a great deal for the university, I just can't see the logic from CGM's side.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 28, 2018, 11:59:31 AM
There's probably more to the deal than has been released to the press.

And the deal ain't done yet.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Chechem on November 28, 2018, 12:08:46 PM
There's probably more to the deal than has been released to the press.
And the deal ain't done yet.

No, there's prolly less.

Having worked at several universities, you can bet that Aub released this "plan" to appease the fans and alumni, suggesting that the all-powerful university was making adjustments and planning for the future.  In truth, a committee of people (lawyers, maybe the AD, and the Aub President) sat down to design this press release. 

Think about the surge of unhappy fans following the last 2 games.  This way Aub can answer their fans' criticism with "we're making progress for a better future", even though nothing is happening.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 28, 2018, 12:34:54 PM
There's probably more to the deal than has been released to the press.
And the deal ain't done yet.

No, there's prolly less.

Having worked at several universities, you can bet that Aub released this "plan" to appease the fans and alumni, suggesting that the all-powerful university was making adjustments and planning for the future.  In truth, a committee of people (lawyers, maybe the AD, and the Aub President) sat down to design this press release. 

Think about the surge of unhappy fans following the last 2 games.  This way Aub can answer their fans' criticism with "we're making progress for a better future", even though nothing is happening.
You could very well be right.  But that's playing with fire.   :lol2:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: carl childers on November 28, 2018, 01:39:05 PM
Someone convince me that this doesn't obliterate Auburn's recruiting. I'll wait.  :lol3:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: ricky023 on November 28, 2018, 02:41:15 PM
 :problem: :problem: I think this as said is going to be a firey toilet paper situation. RTR!


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Merk on November 28, 2018, 02:59:55 PM
I agree with Chech on this one. Gus is probably naive enough to take this plan but his agent, Jimmy Sexton, certainly is not. Sexton is also CNSís agent so you know he's the best in the business and wouldn't let his client do something this dumb.

Full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
 :stop:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: cbbama99 on November 29, 2018, 12:30:25 PM
Someone convince me that this doesn't obliterate Auburn's recruiting. I'll wait.  :lol3:

No dice, I'm with you. Even if what Chech said is true that this is all baloney, this cannot help the Gus' efforts in the offseason. And you know good and well CNS, CKS, and all the other programs in the conference are going to sell that to youngsters.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 29, 2018, 12:40:15 PM
Someone convince me that this doesn't obliterate Auburn's recruiting. I'll wait.  :lol3:

No dice, I'm with you. Even if what Chech said is true that this is all baloney, this cannot help the Gus' efforts in the offseason. And you know good and well CNS, CKS, and all the other programs in the conference are going to sell that to youngsters.
I wonder how far the Barn's recruiting ranking will drop (currently Scout has them at 14).   ???


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: ricky023 on November 29, 2018, 01:07:22 PM
There are some kids who can't think for themselves so they will still go there. RTR!


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 29, 2018, 01:10:15 PM
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 If these rumors are true then Malzahn sure does a lot of the stupid...


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Marshal Dillon on November 29, 2018, 06:49:57 PM
My son said he heard Malzahn state that next year, 2019, would be their year.



 :lol3:


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: Marshal Dillon on November 29, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
This is WEIRD on so many levels!

So, this means that after this agreement, they can fire him for less money.  "I know you are thinking of firing me, and paying me 32 million to leave, but if you let me stay awhile, you can keep some of your money."

If they don't want him bad enough to pay him 32 million to leave, they for certain won't keep him if firing him is a bargain.

What kind of math do they teach over there?



This is exactly what is going on. Gus thinks 2019 is "their year" and he will then be kept after they win the SEC and maybe more. I believe Gus got bluffed by Auburn and he was afraid he would be fired after the bowl game since there were rumors Auburn would find the money to make the payout.










Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: 2Stater on November 30, 2018, 02:48:06 PM
It's funny how Auburn viewed Malzahn as being the goat last year (greatest of all time) after beating Georgia and Bama. And now he's back to humping goats.


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 30, 2018, 03:21:18 PM
It's funny how Auburn viewed Malzahn as being the goat last year (greatest of all time) after beating Georgia and Bama. And now he's back to humping goats.
I'm not convinced that he ever stopped humping goats... He just had the wins last year to distract everyone from it...


Title: Re: Gus Malzahn to accept reduced buyout to remain at Auburn
Post by: ricky023 on November 30, 2018, 03:54:34 PM
Those 2 wins is what CNS wanted and it got auburn and Gus in a mess. RTR!