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Title: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: WALL-E on October 24, 2014, 04:33:02 AM
On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims
(http://media.al.com/alphotos/photo/2014/10/23/16157392-large.jpg)Few predicted it, but Blake Sims more than won the Alabama quarterback competition.

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Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: 2Stater on October 24, 2014, 05:22:35 AM
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It's not easy being wrong ― even harder when you thought you knew it all. But it's time to man up, and I suspect there are a few out there in the same boat.

We're not perfect.

Blake Sims proved it.

And after seven games of the 2014 season, it would be wrong to move forward without addressing this. It was a foregone conclusion when practice started Aug. 1 that Sims would eventually slip to the No. 2 quarterback job. Picking against Florida State transfer Jacob Coker didn't seem feasible.

Yet, there are still some that think Coker should be the guy.  :eyeroll:


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Chechem on October 24, 2014, 05:36:06 AM
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It's not easy being wrong ― even harder when you thought you knew it all. But it's time to man up, and I suspect there are a few out there in the same boat.
We're not perfect.
Blake Sims proved it.

And after seven games of the 2014 season, it would be wrong to move forward without addressing this. It was a foregone conclusion when practice started Aug. 1 that Sims would eventually slip to the No. 2 quarterback job. Picking against Florida State transfer Jacob Coker didn't seem feasible.

Yet, there are still some that think Coker should be the guy.  :eyeroll:
Lots of people hateful and in denial.  They even argue about their pick-'em losses ("I would have gotten 6 right if that idiot ...").
I admit, I had no idea that Blake Sims could run the offense and play with such consistency.

Now, this thread will fill with, "If the DBs could catch, Sims would have # interceptions and only # TDs..."...
 :facepalm:


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: pmull on October 24, 2014, 08:14:09 AM
Anyone who saw the A-Day game in the Spring had doubts about Sims. Maybe we should listen to CNS. He said after A-Day Sims had a bad game but he had proven in practice he is much better than that.

He has made a believer out of me.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: 2Stater on October 24, 2014, 08:37:35 AM
Too many people in our fan base expect our QB to be perfect. We've never had a perfect QB; not AJ, not Namath, not Stabler, not anyone. Blake is our best QB option, hands down. He brings things to our offense that nobody else can. He is elusive, and actually quite accurate. He is very good at rolling out and finding a receiver, or running with the ball if necessary.

Coker has talent, but has some glaring weaknesses. He's much less accurate than Blake, has a much slower release, and is not nearly as elusive. I look for him to probably be our guy next year, but for now, we've got the right starting QB.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Chechem on October 24, 2014, 08:54:56 AM
Too many people in our fan base expect our QB to be perfect. We've never had a perfect QB; not AJ, not Namath, not Stabler, not anyone. Blake is our best QB option, hands down. He brings things to our offense that nobody else can. He is elusive, and actually quite accurate. He is very good at rolling out and finding a receiver, or running with the ball if necessary.

...
I remember a certain Alabama QB throwing the ball out of bounds to stop the clock on 4th down!  True.

 :unsure:


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: KoKoPuf on October 24, 2014, 09:25:15 AM
BS has been better than I expected, but.....  still no good games against a good defense and no good performances on the road. Namath, Stabler & AJ won championships, I'm not ready to put him in that company yet.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: 2Stater on October 24, 2014, 10:18:17 AM
BS has been better than I expected, but.....  still no good games against a good defense and no good performances on the road. Namath, Stabler & AJ won championships, I'm not ready to put him in that company yet.


Woah Koko, I wasn't putting him in that company either.  :lol2:

I was merely describing what some of our fans expect from all of our QBs. Until he wins a natty, I wouldn't even put him up there with Jay Barker or GMAC.



Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: ALTideUp on October 24, 2014, 10:33:12 AM
It is true that no one should have been comfortable with Sims after A-Day. But neither should anyone have been comfortable with Coker. He threw every ball on a rope, and that leads to batted balls. I saw no evidence of touch. Sims stared his receivers down to the point where I thought I might be able to leap out of the stands and get a pick.

The point is that given neither of them looked much good, what was the underlying cause of the tremendous support that Coker received as the heir apparent?


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: pmull on October 24, 2014, 11:15:43 AM
It was unrealistic to think Coker could come into a new program without spring practice and win the starting job. However, that did not stop Bama fans and the national media from anointing him the heir apparent to AJ. Some media even listed him as a preseason Heisman candidate.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: XBAMA on October 24, 2014, 02:19:24 PM
wish I had a dollar for every time I heard .....

"Coker ain't coming to Bama to set on the bench"   


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 24, 2014, 03:41:24 PM
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It's not easy being wrong ― even harder when you thought you knew it all. But it's time to man up, and I suspect there are a few out there in the same boat.
We're not perfect.
Blake Sims proved it.

And after seven games of the 2014 season, it would be wrong to move forward without addressing this. It was a foregone conclusion when practice started Aug. 1 that Sims would eventually slip to the No. 2 quarterback job. Picking against Florida State transfer Jacob Coker didn't seem feasible.

Yet, there are still some that think Coker should be the guy.  :eyeroll:
Lots of people hateful and in denial.  They even argue about their pick-'em losses ("I would have gotten 6 right if that idiot ...").
I admit, I had no idea that Blake Sims could run the offense and play with such consistency.

Now, this thread will fill with, "If the DBs could catch, Sims would have # interceptions and only # TDs..."...
 :facepalm:



Huh? That's news to me. You talking about CRS?


 ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: bama57 on October 24, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
everyone should go back and read these posts, great opinions!
http://www.crimsonredsports.com/index.php?topic=28330.0


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: pmull on October 24, 2014, 04:36:50 PM
I do not know anyone who still thinks Coker is a better fit for our team right now than Sims. I was at the Florida game when Sims got hurt. 101,000 fans were silent as Sims was walked off the field. The biggest cheer of the day was when he re-entered the game and that was after Coker threw a much needed TD pass.

Like it or not this is Sims team. I think everyone likes it at this point.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Jamos on October 24, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
I was one of those that thought Sims couldn't do the job and I was wrong, but I can tell you I was pulling for him when CNS started him. CNS knows a lot more about who should start and who shouldn't, that's why he's the coach and I'm the fan.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 24, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
I was one of those that thought Sims couldn't do the job and I was wrong, but I can tell you I was pulling for him when CNS started him. CNS knows a lot more about who should start and who shouldn't, that's why he's the coach and I'm the fan.



This answer by Jamos is probably the best overall answer but Sims still has to prove he can win on the road & even at home against a quality team. He will get his chance against Miss. State, Auburn, & LSU (even thought they are down this year). I really believe we can win all 3 of those teams, especially if the defense keeps improving so much like previous games & the offense does not self-destruct. His running/scrambling can make a difference.


 :clap:




Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: ricky023 on October 24, 2014, 08:37:50 PM
I hope MSU wins out till they play us. Beating the #1 and the other high quality teams would be a plus. RTR!


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: N.AL-Tider on October 24, 2014, 09:25:24 PM
It is true that no one should have been comfortable with Sims after A-Day. But neither should anyone have been comfortable with Coker. He threw every ball on a rope, and that leads to batted balls. I saw no evidence of touch. Sims stared his receivers down to the point where I thought I might be able to leap out of the stands and get a pick.

The point is that given neither of them looked much good, what was the underlying cause of the tremendous support that Coker received as the heir apparent?
If I am not mistaken then I would say the cause of all the Coker support probably came from comments that Jimbo Fisher made about him when he transferred to Bama.   But I could be wrong... :dunno:


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: N.AL-Tider on October 24, 2014, 09:27:41 PM
I hope MSU wins out till they play us. Beating the #1 and the other high quality teams would be a plus. RTR!
I totally agree with this ^.  I actually want every team we play from here on to win all their games prior to our game against them.  If that is the case and we win out then there is no way IMO that the committee can justify not putting us in the playoffs.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 24, 2014, 11:10:01 PM
I hope MSU wins out till they play us. Beating the #1 and the other high quality teams would be a plus. RTR!
I totally agree with this ^.  I actually want every team we play from here on to win all their games prior to our game against them.  If that is the case and we win out then there is no way IMO that the committee can justify not putting us in the playoffs.



BINGO!!!


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Catch Prothro on October 24, 2014, 11:11:00 PM
I hope MSU wins out till they play us. Beating the #1 and the other high quality teams would be a plus. RTR!
I totally agree with this ^.  I actually want every team we play from here on to win all their games prior to our game against them.  If that is the case and we win out then there is no way IMO that the committee can justify not putting us in the playoffs.
I think some of them play against each other.   ???



Regarding Coker, I think the hype came preseason, from the press and Jimbo's comments.  If we believed what we heard, we would have all thought Coker would win the Heisman this year.

That, and Sim's play during A-Day and last year in mop up duty.

But Saban saw Sims at practice, and knew he was the better option.  I remember those interviews, Saban would mostly answer that there was still a QB competition and he was waiting for someone to step up.

I don't think anyone who is a fan of the game questions Saban's choice now.



Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Jamos on October 25, 2014, 06:21:22 AM
I hope MSU wins out till they play us. Beating the #1 and the other high quality teams would be a plus. RTR!
I totally agree with this ^.  I actually want every team we play from here on to win all their games prior to our game against them.  If that is the case and we win out then there is no way IMO that the committee can justify not putting us in the playoffs.
I think some of them play against each other.   ???



Regarding Coker, I think the hype came preseason, from the press and Jimbo's comments.  If we believed what we heard, we would have all thought Coker would win the Heisman this year.

That, and Sim's play during A-Day and last year in mop up duty.

But Saban saw Sims at practice, and knew he was the better option.  I remember those interviews, Saban would mostly answer that there was still a QB competition and he was waiting for someone to step up.

I don't think anyone who is a fan of the game questions Saban's choice now.


Amen!! :clap:


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Chechem on October 25, 2014, 06:23:19 AM
I hope MSU wins out till they play us. Beating the #1 and the other high quality teams would be a plus. RTR!
I totally agree with this ^.  I actually want every team we play from here on to win all their games prior to our game against them.  If that is the case and we win out then there is no way IMO that the committee can justify not putting us in the playoffs.
I think some of them play against each other.   ???
...
I don't think anyone who is a fan of the game questions Saban's choice now.


Amen!! :clap:
:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: cbbama99 on October 25, 2014, 07:36:59 AM
I was one of those that thought Sims couldn't do the job and I was wrong, but I can tell you I was pulling for him when CNS started him. CNS knows a lot more about who should start and who shouldn't, that's why he's the coach and I'm the fan.

My thoughts exactly. I was completely convinced Coker was going to be the starter, that Sims didn't have a chance. I was proven very wrong, and I no one is happier about it than I am. Blake has taken complete command of this offense, and I think he has really benefited being under Kiffin's tutelage as well. BS may never be mentioned with the likes of Stabler, Namath, and McCarron, but for one season at least, he is doing some remarkable things. And who knows? If things swing just right for us for the rest of the season, he could be the next championship QB.


Title: Re: "On the Beat: Let's be honest, we were wrong about Blake Sims"
Post by: Marshal Dillon on October 25, 2014, 07:43:12 AM
I hope MSU wins out till they play us. Beating the #1 and the other high quality teams would be a plus. RTR!
I totally agree with this ^.  I actually want every team we play from here on to win all their games prior to our game against them.  If that is the case and we win out then there is no way IMO that the committee can justify not putting us in the playoffs.
I think some of them play against each other.   ???



Regarding Coker, I think the hype came preseason, from the press and Jimbo's comments.  If we believed what we heard, we would have all thought Coker would win the Heisman this year.

That, and Sim's play during A-Day and last year in mop up duty.

But Saban saw Sims at practice, and knew he was the better option.  I remember those interviews, Saban would mostly answer that there was still a QB competition and he was waiting for someone to step up.

I don't think anyone who is a fan of the game questions Saban's choice now.





It's very easy to understand why everyone thought Coker was THE ANSWER to our QB problems. It's because we wanted to believe it. He's from Alabama and for some inane reason most of the fans seem to think it's better to have a QB from the state than somewhere else. It's the same mentality that demanded one of "Bear's Boys" be hired as coach in the past. Coker was highly recruited but he made a bad decision and went to FSU. When he got beat out by the future Heisman Trophy winner at the last second (or so the story goes), that enhanced his status. Personally, I still think he can be a solid QB & right now we need a dependable backup.



 :dog: