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Title: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: Jamos on April 20, 2014, 05:31:01 PM
- Freshman guard Elijah Brown is transferring out of Butler's basketball program.

The son of Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown was one of the prized recruits in Butler's freshman recruiting class. The 6-foot-4 guard is the fourth Butler player to transfer since mid-February, following freshmen Nolan Berry and Rene Castro, and sophomore Devontae Morgan.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10805630/elijah-brown-becomes-fourth-butler-bulldogs-player-transfer


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: 2Stater on April 20, 2014, 05:36:58 PM
- Freshman guard Elijah Brown is transferring out of Butler's basketball program.

The son of Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown was one of the prized recruits in Butler's freshman recruiting class. The 6-foot-4 guard is the fourth Butler player to transfer since mid-February, following freshmen Nolan Berry and Rene Castro, and sophomore Devontae Morgan.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10805630/elijah-brown-becomes-fourth-butler-bulldogs-player-transfer

What's going on at Butler?  ???


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: Jamos on April 20, 2014, 05:38:36 PM
- Freshman guard Elijah Brown is transferring out of Butler's basketball program.

The son of Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown was one of the prized recruits in Butler's freshman recruiting class. The 6-foot-4 guard is the fourth Butler player to transfer since mid-February, following freshmen Nolan Berry and Rene Castro, and sophomore Devontae Morgan.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10805630/elijah-brown-becomes-fourth-butler-bulldogs-player-transfer

What's going on at Butler?  ???

 :-X


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: pmull on April 20, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
My guess is these guys were recruited by the previous coaching staff before Stevens took the Boston job last year. They were all freshmen and only Brown saw much action.

The four transfers stats: 

Berry  18 games played-none started, 5.9 minutes/game, 2.0 pts

Castro 12 games played-none started, 10.2 minutes/game, 3.3 pts

Morgan 14 games played-none started, 5.9 minutes, 1.9 pts

Brown 30 game played-1 started, 18.8 minutes, 6.8 pts.

This is a national trend. Players are transferring at a 40% rate. We think we have a lot of transfers but we are well below the national average. Today's prima donnas think they are entitled to playing time and star status as a first year player.

The NCAA needs to get a grip on college basketball. One and done's and all this transferring is not good for the game.


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: Jamos on April 20, 2014, 06:19:06 PM
My guess is these guys were recruited by the previous coaching staff before Stevens took the Boston job last year. They were all freshmen and only Brown saw much action.

The four transfers stats: 

Berry  18 games played-none started, 5.9 minutes/game, 2.0 pts

Castro 12 games played-none started, 10.2 minutes/game, 3.3 pts

Morgan 14 games played-none started, 5.9 minutes, 1.9 pts

Brown 30 game played-1 started, 18.8 minutes, 6.8 pts.

This is a national trend. Players are transferring at a 40% rate. We think we have a lot of transfers but we are well below the national average. Today's prima donnas think they are entitled to playing time and star status as a first year player.

The NCAA needs to get a grip on college basketball. One and done's and all this transferring is not good for the game.


You couldn't have said it any better. :clap:


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: Catch Prothro on April 20, 2014, 06:23:19 PM
Today's prima donnas think they are entitled to playing time and star status as a first year player.

The NCAA needs to get a grip on college basketball. One and done's and all this transferring is not good for the game.
Agreed.  Either put a three-year rule into place like football, or go back to the old system where kids like LeBron and Kobe go straight to the NBA.


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: 2Stater on April 20, 2014, 06:57:12 PM
Absolutely! The one & dones are destroying college BB.


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: bamaphil on April 21, 2014, 01:20:25 AM
The one and dones are a result of the NBA's rules, not the NCAA.  Until a few years ago players could go straight to the NBA from high school, but then the NBA required a player to be one year out of high school before entering the NBA. 

Unless the NCAA is going to drastically increase the penalties for transferring, such as sitting for a year AND losing an additional year of eligibility, nothing is going to change soon. 

I wish the NBA would either develop a stronger D-league and let drafted high school players go there for a year or two or push back the length of time a player has to be out of high school to three years.  I don't understand what the NBA gains by allowing young, inexperienced players to be drafted and brought into the league.  I think the league would benefit by having three years to evaluate how players perform against high level competition and more importantly how they handle themselves as human beings. 


Title: Re: Butler's Elijah Brown is 4th player to transfer(Basketball)
Post by: pmull on April 21, 2014, 08:10:45 AM
The one and dones are a result of the NBA's rules, not the NCAA.  Until a few years ago players could go straight to the NBA from high school, but then the NBA required a player to be one year out of high school before entering the NBA. 

Unless the NCAA is going to drastically increase the penalties for transferring, such as sitting for a year AND losing an additional year of eligibility, nothing is going to change soon. 

I wish the NBA would either develop a stronger D-league and let drafted high school players go there for a year or two or push back the length of time a player has to be out of high school to three years.  I don't understand what the NBA gains by allowing young, inexperienced players to be drafted and brought into the league.  I think the league would benefit by having three years to evaluate how players perform against high level competition and more importantly how they handle themselves as human beings. 

You are correct the NBA draft rules target one and done players. However, the NCAA could stop it by enforcing graduation rates. I know UAB, UCONN and many other schools have lost scholarships and received post season bans for poor academics. They could expand this to include graduation rates and taking one and dones would become risky especially for schools like Kentucky who live by them. Graduating players should be a priority for NCAA members.

Transfers should have to sit out a year and not be able to use that year as a redshirt. Using Trevor Lacey as an example he played two years with Bama, sat out this year as a redshirt with NCST and still has two years to play. We have two transfers on our team that sat out the required one year and both used it as their redshirt. If the NCAA required you to sit out a year and lose a year of eligibility it would cut the amount of players transferring in half or more.