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Title: Furlough?
Post by: #1Tidefan on April 07, 2011, 01:29:59 AM
Thats the word at the base I work at this afternoon. I've been through this before in 95...it lasted 3 days. Hopefully, we'll get this resolved...and out of the way.

Anyone else here from Federal Service, or a Contract Agency that may be under the gun?


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on April 07, 2011, 01:47:03 AM
I think there are several.  We had a pretty good discussion earlier down in the president's mansion.

http://www.crimsonredsports.com/index.php?topic=1277.0


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: #1Tidefan on April 07, 2011, 01:59:37 AM
I think there are several.  We had a pretty good discussion earlier down in the president's mansion.

http://www.crimsonredsports.com/index.php?topic=1277.0

I'm purty sure, they will have something in place to take care of our Active Duty Military Personnel. Talking with my Division Chief (Lt Col) he has been in contact with his superiors, and they feel they same way. The DoD, in part with Congress will extend these services...IMO.


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: N.AL-Tider on April 07, 2011, 06:58:26 AM
I work for a DoD contractor in a government building.  Getting conflicting reports from gov PM and our contract PM.  Gov is encouraging waiting on making another major purchase but our contract PM says that we are a "fully funded" contract so we're working.  I hope we work...

BTW, if Congress fails to agree to anything and the govt does shut down, I think all Congress members should have to work non-stop, 24 hours per day with no pay (not even delayed pay) until they reach an agreement.  Just my opinion...


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: Kupkake on April 07, 2011, 10:08:46 AM
It's furlough - and I never found it to be that big a deal even though the news media makes it sound like the end of the world.  I went through the government shutdown in 1995 and really can't remember the details.  Bottom line, you usually get a couple of days off (if you're non-essential personnel - that was I!) and then they bring you back in and give you back pay (although they threatened you wouldn't be paid).  Congress usually passes a continuing resolution and everything goes back to normal.  Of course ideally, Congress would pass a budget (that's what this is about anyway) but if they haven't done it by now they usually can't get it done in a couple of days. 

And If the federal government still operates on the same fiscal year as it did when I worked there, the new fiscal year began last Oct 1, 2010.  So that's October, November, December, January, February, March and part of April without a real budget - 6+ months.  Over half the fiscal year gone and no permanent budget.

Before long it will be September 30 and we'll be in the same pickle again.

So chill out, get a good book, go fishing, whatever, it'll get done - probably not in the ideal fashion or resolution but then that's the government!


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: ssmithhhh on April 07, 2011, 10:25:13 AM
A, I'm federal, but fortunately (or unfortunately many times) I'm considered essential (if y'all know me, that's pretty hard to comprehend, I know...).

I just wish those kids up in that thar District of Columbia could play nice together.  Like we do here.   :P


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: BamaBratt on April 07, 2011, 11:37:06 AM
The National Guard is a different animal. We have people that are active military and those that are in a civilian status during the week but military for drill weekend and annual training. They will have to use leave time. Those that are active Guard will be working without pay till they(Congress)  get their crap together, or that's the rumor anyway. Currently our budget is holding it's collective breath. We have people that are supposed to be going to schools but any travel after 5 April is still on hold. For us that puts a crimp into a lot of our statewide planning.


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: MDB Tide Roll on April 07, 2011, 12:48:27 PM
We've had furloughs in Georgia for the past two years and they are expecting more for next year.  Our furloughs have been with NO pay.

My school district had 7 furlough days planned this year and we ended up taking 4.  What most people don't realize is even beyond the problem of no pay, we still have to do the work that we would have done on those days.  We just have to come early or stay later on another day to get it all done.

My sympathy is for our military that will continue to do their jobs, hoping that they'll eventually be paid and for the lowest level of workers (think janitors) who may never be paid for the furlough days and can least afford a cut in pay.


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on April 07, 2011, 03:52:25 PM
The more I think about this the angrier I get.

 >:( :pullhair:


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: MDB Tide Roll on April 07, 2011, 07:44:55 PM
The more I think about this the angrier I get.

 >:( :pullhair:


I wasn't angry until I read the article today about how Obama said he'd veto the bill to extend the deadline a week.

:pullhair:


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: Jamos on April 07, 2011, 07:54:25 PM
And this idiot is running for another term, tell me it's not so. :pray:


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: 2Stater on April 07, 2011, 08:08:16 PM
We've had furloughs in Georgia for the past two years and they are expecting more for next year.  Our furloughs have been with NO pay.

My school district had 7 furlough days planned this year and we ended up taking 4.  What most people don't realize is even beyond the problem of no pay, we still have to do the work that we would have done on those days.  We just have to come early or stay later on another day to get it all done.

My sympathy is for our military that will continue to do their jobs, hoping that they'll eventually be paid and for the lowest level of workers (think janitors) who may never be paid for the furlough days and can least afford a cut in pay.

Have an # on me. Georgia is in financial dire straights. You guys are getting a double whammy.


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: ssmith general on April 07, 2011, 08:13:50 PM
I work for a DoD contractor in a government building.  Getting conflicting reports from gov PM and our contract PM.  Gov is encouraging waiting on making another major purchase but our contract PM says that we are a "fully funded" contract so we're working.  I hope we work...

BTW, if Congress fails to agree to anything and the govt does shut down, I think all Congress members should have to work non-stop, 24 hours per day with no pay (not even delayed pay) until they reach an agreement.  Just my opinion...

My understanding that all projects that are T&M will be suspended.  But firm fixed funded projects go forward.


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: Kupkake on April 07, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
And this idiot is running for another term, tell me it's not so. :pray:

+1


Title: Re: Fourlough?
Post by: Kupkake on April 07, 2011, 08:38:31 PM
The more I think about this the angrier I get.

 >:( :pullhair:

I just looked at Drudge and discovered the Zero family is spending the weekend at Williamsburg for a "long planned family trip" and a no-fly zone has been established over Williamsburg.  Now I am really angry! >:( :pullhair: >:(


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: #1Tidefan on April 07, 2011, 11:56:21 PM
Where did that 'O' come from...lol. I changed it.

Supercoach, I'm with you bud. The more I think about these kids in DC arguing over our livelihood, the more it really torques me up. The soldiers that I've talked to @ work (male/female w/counterparts overseas fighting) are worried and sick of this administration for not coming up with a viable solution to this mess.

God help us all when they can't come up w/a solution/Command decision if we get attacked here on our own soil... >:(  x100


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on April 08, 2011, 09:49:19 AM
I got an email from the Pentagon this morning, so apparently they haven't cut power yet.


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on April 08, 2011, 09:52:13 AM
                   :lol:

#+


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: ricky023 on April 08, 2011, 09:58:46 AM
These guys need to be voted out of office, everyone of them. This is stupid to get voted into office and then worry the American people about this junk. I wouldn't care myself. RTR!


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on April 08, 2011, 10:08:08 AM
I also got a call from another DoD agency regarding something I've been trying to get done for months.  I haven't seen this many government people working on a Friday in....well.....never.


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: MDB Tide Roll on April 08, 2011, 10:13:47 AM
I also got a call from another DoD agency regarding something I've been trying to get done for months.  I haven't seen this many government people working on a Friday in....well.....never.

No worries, they'll all be back to business as usual as soon as the "crisis" is over.


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: ricky023 on April 08, 2011, 10:16:18 AM
Back pay for vacation time. RTR!


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: MDB Tide Roll on April 08, 2011, 12:02:59 PM
Ready for your blood pressure to go through the roof.

Quote
   Many congressional staffers have received furlough notices; members of Congress continue to get paid.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2011/04/politics/interactive.govt.shutdown.list/index.html?hpt=T2

No wonder they're not worried about getting this resolved.


:pullhair:


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: SUPERCOACH on April 08, 2011, 12:04:43 PM
:pullhair: :pullhair: :pullhair: :pullhair: :pullhair: :pullhair:


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: 2Stater on April 08, 2011, 12:22:51 PM
These guys need to be voted out of office, everyone of them. This is stupid to get voted into office and then worry the American people about this junk. I wouldn't care myself. RTR!

(http://dscweb.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/butt-kicking.jpg)

I like "kicked" better, Preacher.


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: BamaBratt on April 08, 2011, 01:15:34 PM
LES (leave and earning statement) already shows it. 8 days of pay..... >:(


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: ricky023 on April 08, 2011, 01:43:59 PM
These guys need to be voted out of office, everyone of them. This is stupid to get voted into office and then worry the American people about this junk. I wouldn't care myself. RTR!

(http://dscweb.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/butt-kicking.jpg)

I like "kicked" better, Preacher.

LOL, I agree 2stater. It is awful how they act like children back and forth. The American People ought to get off their sitting place and make calls and e-mails to their voted in representative. They act like they own the American people and they don't my Lord we voted these unworthy guys into office. RTR!


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: 2Stater on April 08, 2011, 01:51:24 PM
These guys need to be voted out of office, everyone of them. This is stupid to get voted into office and then worry the American people about this junk. I wouldn't care myself. RTR!

(http://dscweb.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/butt-kicking.jpg)

I like "kicked" better, Preacher.

LOL, I agree 2stater. It is awful how they act like children back and forth. The American People ought to get off their sitting place and make calls and e-mails to their voted in representative. They act like they own the American people and they don't my Lord we voted these unworthy guys into office. RTR!

Traveling from SC to P'cola, I passed a billboard near Commerce, Ga. that's been there for about 2 years now. It's a picture of Obama and the caption reads "It's we the people, not you the president". I agree with you Preacher, until our politicians regrasp this concept, they don't need to be in office.


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: MDB Tide Roll on April 08, 2011, 10:16:28 PM
With 45 minutes to spare, they've apparently reached a deal.  No shutdown.


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: #1Tidefan on April 09, 2011, 12:24:19 AM
Yeaaaa! I get to keep my pay. :dance:

With 5 1/2 months to go before fiscal year 2012, I'm takin bets as to how long that budget mess will last into next year...


Title: Re: Furlough?
Post by: #1Tidefan on April 09, 2011, 01:13:50 AM
Sorry, I forgot to load this up yesterday....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJpHuSQ5w8s