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Title: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: KoKoPuf on March 05, 2012, 12:59:46 PM Just in time for Easter!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9123866/Churches-adopt-new-Ten-Commandments.html Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: ricky023 on March 05, 2012, 01:56:43 PM Well I will give my first opinion here. This language change seems totally out of kilter. If a person can not understand "Thou shalt not steal" what does it matter how many different words you use. The person is not going to obey and next, try changing the doctrine of the Word first is wrong. Satan seems to have eased someone's thinking more toward what he wants things to say so can easily ruin more of Gods' Word. If the Bible 3000 people in one day written as it is, then I see no changes needed. Your either going to read it and obey or you are not. "Satan get thee behind me." Praise the name of Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: BAMAWV on March 05, 2012, 02:09:02 PM Well I will give my first opinion here. This language change seems totally out of kilter. If a person can not understand "Thou shalt not steal" what does it matter how many different words you use. The person is not going to obey and next, try changing the doctrine of the Word first is wrong. Satan seems to have eased someone's thinking more toward what he wants things to say so can easily ruin more of Gods' Word. If the Bible 3000 people in one day written as it is, then I see no changes needed. Your either going to read it and obey or you are not. "Satan get thee behind me." Praise the name of Jesus Christ. Satan working through KoKoPuffer? SIAPTitle: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: N.AL-Tider on March 05, 2012, 02:41:07 PM I'm with Ricky on this one. I mean, if God said it then that should be good enough for everyone for all time. Who am I that I feel the need to reword God's word? :dunno:
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: pmull on March 05, 2012, 03:55:58 PM Unless you read Hebrew you are reading a translated version of the bible. Some translations are very good. I prefer the NIV because it is easier for me to read and understand. This "New and Improved" version of The Ten Comandments misses the mark IMO. The Ten Commandments are not difficult to read or understand. Most English translations are very similar. This text varies too far and can be interpreted entirely different. I don't like it.
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: ricky023 on March 05, 2012, 04:48:38 PM I am glad KoKoPuf brought it up here. It let's us see how easy things can get switched to harm rather than to good. I am not blaming KoKoPuf at all but the writer is wrong and the reader will be even more wrong after he interprets how easily it leads him away. God Bless!
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: KoKoPuf on March 05, 2012, 07:53:00 PM Guys, I'm not endorsing these by any means! I think it is beyond stupid but it does show what the popular culture is drifting toward.
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: BAMAWV on March 05, 2012, 08:13:27 PM Guys, I'm not endorsing these by any means! I think it is beyond stupid but it does show what the popular culture is drifting toward. This thread has a lot of potential if taken tongue in cheek as most serious believers will. For instance, I am not sure they haven't confused Satan with Santa. Don't dis your Momma!Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: XBAMA on March 05, 2012, 09:11:14 PM Unless you read Hebrew you are reading a translated version of the bible. Some translations are very good. I prefer the NIV because it is easier for me to read and understand. This "New and Improved" version of The Ten Comandments misses the mark IMO. The Ten Commandments are not difficult to read or understand. Most English translations are very similar. This text varies too far and can be interpreted entirely different. I don't like it. I met a gentleman that wrote a book about the changed meanings of the words as they were being translated for the Bible . I believe his name is Harry Ellegood . I have a copy of the book around here somewhere , he even autographed it for me , very interesting stuff to say the least ... as far as the 10 Commandments ... what's next ? a rap version ? :dunno: Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: 2Stater on March 06, 2012, 04:24:45 AM #11 - "Thou shalt not alter the Commandments". JMHO.
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: Jamos on March 06, 2012, 06:11:12 AM I'm not surprised at this at all, the acceptance of same sex marriages did me in with our laws of today.
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: cbbama99 on March 06, 2012, 09:25:21 AM I think pmull is spot on. Unless you can read the original Hebrew and Greek, you are never going to get EVERY word in the Bible correct when translated. However, the majority of translations out there (I personally used ESV) are as faithful to the original texts as possible without altering the concepts of the Bible. There may be a word or two here and there that is not correct, but the ideas and concepts are unchanged. That is my problem with this "new" 10 Commandments: its seems the message has been changed. Some of the commandment are written in negative verbiage (do not steal, do not murder, etc.) but others are very positive (honor you father and mother, remember the Sabbath and keep it holy). "Prosper with a clear conscience?" "Affair-proof your relationships?" Are they assuming people are too stupid to know what "do not commit adultery" and "do not steal" mean?
Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: ricky023 on March 06, 2012, 01:36:24 PM Thou Shalt not or,
Thou Shall not, to me means more in strength than simply a do not. Go up to a teen today and say do not curse so much. Well I bet you don't get much strength out of those words. RTR! Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: cbbama99 on March 06, 2012, 04:41:00 PM Thou Shalt not or, Thou Shall not, to me means more in strength than simply a do not. Go up to a teen today and say do not curse so much. Well I bet you don't get much strength out of those words. RTR! Must be a fan of the King Jimmy edition, ricky. :D Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: Old Tider on March 06, 2012, 05:01:45 PM Last year was the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible, renown for its beautiful language and for expressions that have stayed in our hearts. Why simplify such a powerful book?
I'm also against the new style of hymns that all sound alike to me. Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: cbbama99 on March 06, 2012, 07:50:59 PM Last year was the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible, renown for its beautiful language and for expressions that have stayed in our hearts. Why simplify such a powerful book? I'm also against the new style of hymns that all sound alike to me. I definitely agree on the hymns front OT. While I have nothing against the KJV, there is also the Geneva Bible, which was the Bible translated and used by the early Reformers like John Knox, John Calvin, and William Tyndale. For more on the Geneva Bible: http://genevabible.com/history.php#banner2 Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: ricky023 on March 06, 2012, 09:32:21 PM Thou Shalt not or, Thou Shall not, to me means more in strength than simply a do not. Go up to a teen today and say do not curse so much. Well I bet you don't get much strength out of those words. RTR! Must be a fan of the King Jimmy edition, ricky. :D Last year was the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible, renown for its beautiful language and for expressions that have stayed in our hearts. Why simplify such a powerful book? I'm also against the new style of hymns that all sound alike to me. I definitely agree on the hymns front OT. While I have nothing against the KJV, there is also the Geneva Bible, which was the Bible translated and used by the early Reformers like John Knox, John Calvin, and William Tyndale. For more on the Geneva Bible: http://genevabible.com/history.php#banner2 I agree with you both. I love the Geneva Bible. #+ I am though a Preacher who lives from the KJV. "Just As I Am" got me Saved and my family before me, I think it is just as powerful today as ever before. God Bless! :D :D :D Title: Re: The Ten Commandments - A New and Improved Edition? Post by: BAMAWV on March 07, 2012, 03:30:48 AM Ephesians 6 calls the Bible the sword of the spirit. It is our only weapon to fight Satan with. Why water it down?
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