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I have a lot of other teams fans (I am in the Military) telling me each day how Bama doesn't deserve a rematch, that Okie St should go...Bama had the chance...blah blah blah.

To be honest any other year I would agree but this is a strange year and everyone SHOULD be able to see Bama and LSU are in a class by themselfs. No one comes close!

The UGA fans bring up 2007 and say UGA should have went if were going let Bama go this year...IDK

Thoughts?

I would begrudgingly support Oklahoma State if they were undefeated.  But you can't overlook that horrible loss to a 28 point underdog.  LSU led Alabama for exactly 0:00 minutes on the game clock.  That last FG in overtime is the only time they had the lead the entire game.  Alabama is the only team that can beat LSU.  If you send somebody else, why not just go ahead and mail them the trophy?

It is not about who's turn it is.  This isn't kindergarden.  It is about putting the 2 best teams in the title game, and nobody can dispute that LSU and Alabama are the 2 best teams.

As for 2007, UGA lost to South Carolina 16-12 AND they got blown out by Tennessee 35-14.  That is hardly an apples to apples comparison to what Alabama has done this year.

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I just realized that I didn't actually answer the question.  :-[

No.  8)

Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State. That is a 6-5 team with Kansas State still to go. They must beat Oklahoma and worry about Va Tech and Stanford. The only way they jump us is if the human polls totally change from last week which is very unlikely. At this point if you have the money buy your ticket and book a room in New Orleans for Jan. 9.

Seriously though, I think they are too far down in the human polls to jump Bama.  Brad Edwards, the BCS guru, said the same thing.

David Pollack says they have a chance if they put up 300 on Oklahoma.

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I would add to that, they have to put up the 300 without giving up 299 themselves.

And Stanford is done.  They are not likely to pass Stanford even if they beat Oklahoma.  They might pass Va Tech if they choke against Clemson.  I guess it is a mathematical possibility, but I am really not the least bit concerned about it.

uga fan sent this to me.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/960730-bcs-rankings-why-oklahoma-state-will-soon-be-ranked-higher-than-alabama

Oh that is easy to refute.  It is on Bleacher Report, the bastion of credible journalism.  :D

Their job is to create controversy and get people to come to their site.  I will go read it though and see if it holds up.

By the way, just tune that UGA fan out until Saturday and you want hear from him for awhile.  :D

lol Thats what I was thinking too. Ever talk to a UGA fan? all they do is pull up stats...saying Murry is the best QB in the SEC...Richt has an unbelieveable record at UGA....they beat bama in ot at T town...The last one makes me laugh becuase he forgets about the blackout and the year we lost to UGA we also lost to UL monroe...good company UGA. :D

The coaches Poll and the Harris poll make up 2/3 of the BCS ranking. The other 1/3 is the computer rankings. If Oklahoma State beats the Sooners they will possibly jump us in the computor poll. We are a solid # 2 in the other polls. Oklahoma State is a solid # 5. They have too much ground to make up. People can like it or not but we are in.

Besides Jamos and the REC boys have this thing under control according to boogers.  :D

OK, I just read the article.  Guess how many facts are in there?  Exactly 1:  Alabama currently leads Oklahoma State by 0.084 in the BCS standings.  Well I suppose another fact is that Oklahoma State has another game.  But everything else is strictly opinion, with nothing to support it.  First of all, he declares that OSU will win Saturday.  Oh really?  Maybe they will, maybe they won't.  Let's play the game and find out.  But even if they do win, he offers no details as to how this would allow them to pass Alabama.  NONE.  Just because he wants it to happen doesn't mean that it will.  Brad Edwards on the other hand, (you know, the BCS GURU for ESPN) has crunched the numbers and says that it is practically a done deal.

But unlike that guy on Bleacher Report, I will give you a possible scenario that would allow OSU to pass Alabama.

1.  Va Tech loses to Clemson, and drops in the polls.  Va Tech is peaking at the right time and is 7 1/2 point favorite to win their rematch.  Meanwhile Clemson is falling apart at exactly the wrong time.

2.  OSU blows out OU by such a large margin that the pollsters decide to jump them ahead of Stanford even though Stanford didn't even play.  Remember, Stanford has only lost one game too, and that was a much more respectable loss to Oregon.  If any other team besides Alabama goes, it should be Stanford, not OSU, in my opinion.

3.  Not only would OSU have to pass Stanford in the polls, they would have to be a unanimous #3 because the BCS takes into consideration how many points you get in the polls, not simply what position you are in.  If they are #3 but only beat Stanford by a few points, it won't be enough.  Right now Stanford is 44 points ahead of them in the USA Today poll.  Alabama is 166 points ahead of OSU.  Stanford is another media darling, and it is very unlikely that they will lose that much ground to OSU when they don't even play.

So it is technically a possibility, but as you can see it is very unlikely for all of that to happen.  I just don't think the pollsters are going to overlook that horrible loss and move them that far ahead of Stanford to a unanimous #3 spot, even if they blowout Oklahoma and Va Tech loses.

And even if all of that stuff happened, they still aren't guaranteed to pass Bama.  Once you crunched the numbers they might still be behind Bama.  But they have no shot at all unless all of those things happen, then it would be a toss up at best.

That is pretty bad when they are going back to 2007 when that isn't even the most recent game.

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"You remember that one time when we beat Bama?  Yeah, it was a long time ago when Saban first came.  It was the year they lost to UL Monroe.  Boy those were the good ol' days."

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What is supposed to be so big and great about beating Oklahoma that would project Ok State to move so high in the polls. Has everyone forgotten who beat Oklahoma at their home field this year, Texas Tech and just who else has Texas tech beaten. Now pray tell me who Texas Tech could beat in the SEC, maybe Ole Miss and they might have to take it to overtime to do that.

Not just No, but H E double hockey sticks NO!

If you look at the one loss:
Bama's was in OT against the #1 team.
Stanford's was against Oregon.
VT's was against Clemson.  Although VT is playing better now, it's the ACC.
OSU lost to an unranked team.  At home.

Miss St. would give 'em all they want! It'd take 'em 4 qtrs. to get out of Starkville with a W.

The OSU loss was an away game, but your points are still valid.  They were still favored by 28 points.

I've actually looked at what the polls say and the voices that be on ESPN. No they can't jump us.
Also Matt Millen said on College Football Live that he voted for Andrew Luck for Heisman winner. (I know I should have a link and I will hunt one.) RTR!

I heard him say it too ricky.

Thank you SC. I actually thought he seemed a bit brash in making an advertisement for Mr. Luck. I thought public advertisement was wrong. JMHO! RTR!

NO!!
http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/20111128/SPORTS/111280304/Guilbeau-Book-LSU-vs-Alabama-national-title
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Last paragraph in article i will not quote . LSU Slant  :o
. Wrinkled nose with tongue sticking out( my discernible bias)

Well you have to love their confidence, even if it is removed from reality.

The two best teams should play for the championship.  The end.  Anything else is just other people wanting to make it into something else because they want their favorite team to play.  Bama and LSU have two of the best defenses I've seen in my lifetime and excellent offenses, (regardless of what critics think, the numbers don't lie).  This should make one of the best "slobber knockin'" contest we will ever see. But, can Ok. state jump Bama?  I don't know, just had a soapbox moment instead of answering the question.

There is a writer from Oklahoma being interviewed on Jox radio now.  He says he'd vote for Alabama as the best team.  He also said that Okla State is finally a healthy team this week, and he expects them to blow Oklahoma out this weekend.

Well, after Texas Tech beat Oklahoma, I guess anything is possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.  I'm glad that writer is not delusional about Bama being number two. 

Published on Sunday!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde_alabama_closes_bcs_case_112611

Alabama closes case on BCS title game


By Pat Forde, Yahoo! Sports
1 hour, 14 minutes ago

E-cred to Pat Forde.  :D

Just to follow up on this:

1.  Va Tech did their part.
2.  OSU blows out OU.  Will the pollsters that had them behind Stanford jump them ahead of Stanford?  Doubtful, but we will see.
3.  According to Brad Edwards last night, if they are a unanimous #3 they still do not pass Bama.  They need to also pick up 40+ 2nd place votes to pass Bama.  This was assuming they were going to be a unanimous #2 in the computers, which we already know they are not.  They also need to pick up an extra 2nd place vote for every person that has Stanford ahead of them.

So it is still highly unlikely they pass Bama, even though everything went perfect for them yesterday.

Another way to look at this is that Bama & LSU & Okie State are all undefeated with one tie in regulation.  LSU and Bama have been #1 & #2 all year.  LSU & Bama tied each other.  Okie St. tied ISU...enough said.  So, let's not call this a rematch but 4 quarters of overtime.  The 1st 4 quarters were played in our house and the next 4 quarters will be played in their house...essentially. 

I have not read all the post, so I don't know if this has been discussed.  I think OSU lost on the day or around the time OSU basketball coaches were killed in the plane crash.  Some people may take that into account.   I honestly don't know who or what is going to be favored when the final decision comes out.   OSU's victory over OU was sound, as well as aided by the Sooners,  and they did have 2 weeks to prepare. 

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