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Title: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Jamos on November 23, 2011, 06:17:59 AM
There's no doubt who the number one conference in the nation is in football but could there be a challenge ahead for the number one conference in basketball. I know it is way early to start speculating such things, but could the addition of Missouri and Texas A&M to the SEC suddenly create a challenge to the Big East, Big 10, and the ACC.

The SEC usually has 2-3 teams each year that can hold their own with the Big 3 conferences in home and home matchups as well as get a team into the final four of the Big Dance. But now I think the addition of Missouri and Texas A&M, especially Missouri, the dominance of those three conferences is in big danger of having to share the limelight with the SEC.

With Alabama's resurgence as  a team to beat along with Kentucky, Florida, Vanderbilt, and Tennessee, you only have to wonder what the addition of Missouri will do for the SEC. I'm not omitting the other teams in the conference either because they have had some very good teams as well but not on an annual basis.

It will be very interesting to see if ESPN and their almighty Big East bias will have to move away from their "darlings" of basketball and wrap their arms around the SEC in basketball as they have done with football and that includes Dick Vital as well.

Go SEC!!!  :clap:



Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Chechem on November 23, 2011, 06:21:17 AM

The SEC has the talent, but there are 2 more qualities needed: fan support and top coaching.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: 2Stater on November 23, 2011, 06:22:05 AM
There's no doubt who the number one conference in the nation is in football but could there be a challenge ahead for the number one conference in basketball. I know it is way early to start speculating such things, but could the addition of Missouri and Texas A&M to the SEC suddenly create a challenge to the Big East, Big 10, and the ACC.

The SEC usually has 2-3 teams each year that can hold their own with the Big 3 conferences in home and home matchups as well as get a team into the final four of the Big Dance. But now I think the addition of Missouri and Texas A&M, especially Missouri, the dominance of those three conferences is in big danger of having to share the limelight with the SEC.

With Alabama's resurgence as  a team to beat along with Kentucky, Florida, Vanderbilt, and Tennessee, you only have to wonder what the addition of Missouri will do for the SEC. I'm not omitting the other teams in the conference either because they have had some very good teams as well but not on an annual basis.

It will be very interesting to see if ESPN and their almighty Big East bias will have to move away from their "darlings" of basketball and wrap their arms around the SEC in basketball as they have done with football and that includes Dick Vital as well.

Go SEC!!!  :clap:



WOOOT!!! I love watching Vitale remove his foot from his mouth only to replace it with crow.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: BillBrosky on November 23, 2011, 07:05:42 AM
Set aside the sloppy homecourt play of their only loss, and MSU has surprised me the most.  I kind of expected Bama to be where their at.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: 2Stater on November 23, 2011, 07:18:09 AM
Set aside the sloppy homecourt play of their only loss, and MSU has surprised me the most.  I kind of expected Bama to be where their at.

Whatcha say there, BB. How ya been?


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: BillBrosky on November 23, 2011, 07:21:37 AM
Set aside the sloppy homecourt play of their only loss, and MSU has surprised me the most.  I kind of expected Bama to be where their at.

Whatcha say there, BB. How ya been?

Been doin' right nice 2Stater!  How's about you and yorn? 


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on November 23, 2011, 07:26:33 AM
Everybody hide yer wives and girlfriends...old Bill is sneaking around!


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: BillBrosky on November 23, 2011, 07:28:33 AM
Everybody hide yer wives and girlfriends...old Bill is sneaking around!

 :lol:   The good doctor never forgets! 


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Jamos on November 23, 2011, 07:29:21 AM

The SEC has the talent, but there are 2 more qualities needed: fan support and top coaching.

I agree that the lack of fan support and "doormat" teams are there now but winning games will bring the fans and in order to win, there must be quality coaching and recruiting. I think the success of the upper tier teams of the conference will force the "doormats" to go out and get those quality coaches.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on November 23, 2011, 07:31:20 AM
Everybody hide yer wives and girlfriends...old Bill is sneaking around!

 :lol:   The good doctor never forgets! 

Gotta protect the hens.  Old Bill is like a wolf around a chicken coup!


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: BillBrosky on November 23, 2011, 07:33:03 AM
Everybody hide yer wives and girlfriends...old Bill is sneaking around!

 :lol:   The good doctor never forgets! 

Gotta protect the hens.  Old Bill is like a wolf around a chicken coup!

'cept I've got turkey on the brain today.  You do know a turkey is smarter than an eagle don't ya? 


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on November 23, 2011, 07:36:35 AM
Everybody hide yer wives and girlfriends...old Bill is sneaking around!

 :lol:   The good doctor never forgets! 

Gotta protect the hens.  Old Bill is like a wolf around a chicken coup!

'cept I've got turkey on the brain today.  You do know a turkey is smarter than an eagle don't ya? 

And probably tastier.  I plan to get my fill of turkey tomorrow and eagle on Saturday.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Chechem on November 23, 2011, 07:42:10 AM
Hello, Brosky.  Happy turkey to you.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: BillBrosky on November 23, 2011, 07:43:18 AM
Hello, Brosky.  Happy turkey to you.

Gobble gobble bro!  Y'all got BIG plans for turkey day? 


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Chechem on November 23, 2011, 07:48:35 AM
Hello, Brosky.  Happy turkey to you.

Gobble gobble bro!  Y'all got BIG plans for turkey day?  

Plans?  Hell, Brosky, I'm right here within an hour of Jamestown.  Not to mix historical Thanksgivings, but Jamestown, unlike Plymouth, is where the idiots nearly starved to death because they were too proud to accept food from the Indians local folks.  I can see Thomas Jefferson's house from my window (sensu S. Palin 2008).


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: BillBrosky on November 23, 2011, 07:52:31 AM
Hello, Brosky.  Happy turkey to you.

Gobble gobble bro!  Y'all got BIG plans for turkey day?  

Plans?  Hell, Brosky, I'm right here within an hour of Jamestown.  Not to mix historical Thanksgivings, but Jamestown, unlike Plymouth, is where the idiots nearly starved to death because they were too proud to accept food from the Indians local folks.  I can see Thomas Jefferson's house from my window (sensu S. Palin 2008).

What da heck?  How'd a southern boy from sippisippi wind up in Yankee territory? 


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Chechem on November 23, 2011, 07:57:01 AM
Hello, Brosky.  Happy turkey to you.

Gobble gobble bro!  Y'all got BIG plans for turkey day?  

Plans?  Hell, Brosky, I'm right here within an hour of Jamestown.  Not to mix historical Thanksgivings, but Jamestown, unlike Plymouth, is where the idiots nearly starved to death because they were too proud to accept food from the Indians local folks.  I can see Thomas Jefferson's house from my window (sensu S. Palin 2008).

What da heck?  How'd a southern boy from sippisippi wind up in Yankee territory? 

I once made that association mistake myself.  Virginia claims to have the inside track on Confederate heroes.  Who'd have known!  :dunno:


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: BillBrosky on November 23, 2011, 08:06:09 AM
Hello, Brosky.  Happy turkey to you.

Gobble gobble bro!  Y'all got BIG plans for turkey day?  

Plans?  Hell, Brosky, I'm right here within an hour of Jamestown.  Not to mix historical Thanksgivings, but Jamestown, unlike Plymouth, is where the idiots nearly starved to death because they were too proud to accept food from the Indians local folks.  I can see Thomas Jefferson's house from my window (sensu S. Palin 2008).

What da heck?  How'd a southern boy from sippisippi wind up in Yankee territory? 

I once made that association mistake myself.  Virginia claims to have the inside track on Confederate heroes.  Who'd have known!  :dunno:

Well, they did rip up Mrs Lee's garden of collards and plant some yanks.  How'd dat work out?  NOT TOO GOOD!  Errybody knows that the Potomac is only good for tobacco, cherry trees, freezin' over, and collards.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Chechem on November 23, 2011, 08:21:46 AM
Hello, Brosky.  Happy turkey to you.

Gobble gobble bro!  Y'all got BIG plans for turkey day?  

Plans?  Hell, Brosky, I'm right here within an hour of Jamestown.  Not to mix historical Thanksgivings, but Jamestown, unlike Plymouth, is where the idiots nearly starved to death because they were too proud to accept food from the Indians local folks.  I can see Thomas Jefferson's house from my window (sensu S. Palin 2008).

What da heck?  How'd a southern boy from sippisippi wind up in Yankee territory? 

I once made that association mistake myself.  Virginia claims to have the inside track on Confederate heroes.  Who'd have known!  :dunno:

Well, they did rip up Mrs Lee's garden of collards and plant some yanks.  How'd dat work out?  NOT TOO GOOD!  Errybody knows that the Potomac is only good for tobacco, cherry trees, freezin' over, and collards.

I think you're wanted over at The Daily Thread.

I've got to go work...


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: pmull on November 23, 2011, 08:42:09 AM
The SEC appears to be up this year. Currently KY, Florida, Vandy and Bama are in the top 25. Miss State looks like they may be good. I look for Arky to improve with Anderson as the coach. We should have a good year. Before we start taking about being a top BB conference we have to prove it. Having one good year will not do it. We need to do it year after year. The SEC seems to run in cycles. We will have a few good years and a few down years. The top BB conferences are always good. I agree with Chech that fan support and coaching has to improve to get us on top. The South produces top BB talent just like football. We need to keep that talent at home. Too many leave the South to play in the ACC and Big East.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: ricky023 on November 23, 2011, 11:18:36 AM
I don't ever see Dickie V. turning in support of the SEC. We could be playing KY. and he would talk about Syracuse or North Carolina but not us. RTR!


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Catch Prothro on November 23, 2011, 03:31:04 PM

The SEC has the talent, but there are 2 more qualities needed: fan support and top coaching.
There's money to be made in Basketball, that's for sure.  But not as much as football, ESPECIALLY in the SEC where football is all that matters to most fans.  Still, some SEC teams make a push in basketball -- Kentucky, Bama and Florida having the most success historically, followed by MS State, Vandy, Georgia and LSU.  The addition of Missouri and TA&M should improve the SEC's basketball resume, as both teams are competitive (though not NCAA tournament worthy every year) and probably better than half of the SEC schools (can you say improved RPI?)  Still, without the fan support, the money will not be spent for better facilities or coaching at many SEC schools


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: 2Stater on November 23, 2011, 08:35:44 PM
FWIW Bama is up on Alabama A&M 66-31.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: 2Stater on November 23, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
Final 82-45 Bama.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: 2Stater on November 23, 2011, 09:26:20 PM
Final 82-45 Bama.

Mostly freshman PT tonight. Big numbers. Check 'em out. Apparently JG did not play.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=313270333


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Jamos on November 23, 2011, 09:47:13 PM
Green did not play tonight, he got a hip pointer in Puerti Rico and decided to let it rest tonight. Tony Mitchell went down with an ankle sprain 8 minutes into the game, I saw him on crutches as the game was ending. It was a great game for Bama in that the youngsters got a lot on minutes tonight. It was a sloppy game but there was great effort from the players, some of them grew up a little tonight.

Bama has a huge game Sunday night, VCU. For those that don't remember, VCU made it to the final four last year so Bama will have their hands full. I'm hoping some fans will show up fill the place, Bama's home court win streak will be on the line.

The game will start at 8:30 pm Sunday.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: 2Stater on November 23, 2011, 10:14:43 PM
Green did not play tonight, he got a hip pointer in Puerti Rico and decided to let it rest tonight. Tony Mitchell went down with an ankle sprain 8 minutes into the game, I saw him on crutches as the game was ending. It was a great game for Bama in that the youngsters got a lot on minutes tonight. It was a sloppy game but there was great effort from the players, some of them grew up a little tonight.

Bama has a huge game Sunday night, VCU. For those that don't remember, VCU made it to the final four last year so Bama will have their hands full. I'm hoping some fans will show up fill the place, Bama's home court win streak will be on the line.

The game will start at 8:30 pm Sunday.

J, any word on the severity of TM's injury?


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: SUPERCOACH on November 24, 2011, 12:42:45 AM
It is supposedly just a sprained ankle.  He was signing autographs in the stands after the game without the crutches.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: Jamos on November 24, 2011, 05:46:29 AM
Yeah, he was signing autographs which is a good indicator to the level of his pain. This morning will tell the story on the severity of it, I'm sure he will be in the trainers room very early this morning.

He took a big tumble when he hurt it going after a loose ball at mid-court and he was at full speed doing this.

It was a lot of fun watching the reserves play, especially Engstrom. It's a shame that he got whistled for some cheap fouls because he was starting to like the idea of blocking shots near the basket. He's improving but still has a ways to go when comparing him to the other players, but the other players are pretty darn good. Jacobs is going to be a lot of help on the inside but he mishandles a lot of balls, he could have had over twenty points easily if not for that. Hankerson likes to play basketball, he has a good shot and does real well playing the guard position, this will give Bama the depth that they need there as Lacey has stepped up in that position as well.

I thought it was a good game for Bama as they were working on the long range shots last night, due to Green and Mitchell being out, this is something that they will need against the better teams.



 


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: 2Stater on November 24, 2011, 07:39:49 AM
Yeah, he was signing autographs which is a good indicator to the level of his pain. This morning will tell the story on the severity of it, I'm sure he will be in the trainers room very early this morning.

He took a big tumble when he hurt it going after a loose ball at mid-court and he was at full speed doing this.

It was a lot of fun watching the reserves play, especially Engstrom. It's a shame that he got whistled for some cheap fouls because he was starting to like the idea of blocking shots near the basket. He's improving but still has a ways to go when comparing him to the other players, but the other players are pretty darn good. Jacobs is going to be a lot of help on the inside but he mishandles a lot of balls, he could have had over twenty points easily if not for that. Hankerson likes to play basketball, he has a good shot and does real well playing the guard position, this will give Bama the depth that they need there as Lacey has stepped up in that position as well.

I thought it was a good game for Bama as they were working on the long range shots last night, due to Green and Mitchell being out, this is something that they will need against the better teams.



 

Awesome! Thanks for the report, J.


Title: Re: Will SEC Basketball Become The #1 Conference as Football Has
Post by: XBAMA on November 24, 2011, 08:39:41 AM
lsu did their part   :afraid:


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