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Wow, this could be the year that both teams in the NCG could have one loss and right now there are a lot of "what ifs" in relation to the two teams that will be there.

With LSU at the top of the polls and Oklahoma right behind, a lot of folks think that these will be the two teams that will play in New Orleans. I'm not so sure when you look at the remaining games for those two especially LSU. They have a very tough  game at home against a much improved Arkansas team and if they were to win that game, then they would have to play a greatly improved  Georgia team. In Oklahoma State's situation, they have a very big game at home against their number one rival, Oklahoma. Oklahoma has been a big failure this year as far as their early season rankings were but could they be the team that beats Oklahoma State.

Now you have Bama and Oregon sitting on the outside looking in and I'm sure that the West Coast writers will jump on their band wagon with their votes. Things could get very interesting these next three weeks.

it has started , just watching espnu and they are blowing in the ducks ear really hard

I wasn't high on the rematch idea but the more undefeateds fall, the more I am hoping.  If everybody has 1 loss, then our loss to the #1 team in overtime is definitely not as damaging as some others.  We haven't had a big SEC upset this year, have we?  I know Vandy almost pulled it off with Arkansas.  I dunno, part of me feels there is an upset on the horizon and I hope it has LSU or OSU's name on it.

Hate to have to say it, but we didn't help ourselves much last night.  Maybe it won't matter, but I think we needed to make a statement; we didn't.  :dunno:

PS< my husband the MS State grad is SUPER ticked that College Game Day is going to U of H next week when they have never been to Starkville.  Their schedule is terrible and nobody cares.  We live 20 min from the campus and I'm still not seeing any bandwagoner fan gear.  I actually see more Bama gear.  I used to throw out the Roll Tide but a lot of them look at me like "do HUH?" and they just get the Roll Tide etiquette.  

The talking heads and ESPN writers are talking about an Oregon vs LSU rematch. Assuming both win out of course. Let's review the first game. LSU won easily 40-27. Oregon scored a TD with 0.13 left on the clock to make it that close. LSU beat them badly. It will be a terrible injustice if that rematch occurs.

If Oklahoma beats Oklahoma State they may get the inside track even though they lost to a bad Texas Tech team. Some people are dead set against a rematch.

If Arkansas can beat LSU it changes everything. Arkansas is getting healthy and playing better each week. The game is at LSU but that will not be an easy game.

If the season plays out like most people think it will and Oklahoma State loses to the Sooners the best two teams in the counrty will be LSU and Alabama. We will be ranked high by the computers. Let's hope regional bias in the human polls does not keep the two best teams from playing for the championship.

Alabama and some other team destined to lose.

I don't like to think that Oklahoma can jump us and there's not a team, other than Ole Miss, in the SEC that can't and would beat Texas Tech. Oregon is the one I worry about if Ok State  should stumble, surely the Eastern voters would go with Bama though. I think the computer would go with Bama though in this scenario.

But first, Bama has two games left to play and possibly three if Arkansas upsets LSU, Bama needs to heal up and take care of Georgia Southern and Auburn first. The Georgia Southern game should be a win but hopefully Bama can make their life a little easier and get a big lead early and let the undercalssmen have some fun. It seems though that everytime I think this Bama comes out flat and it's well into the 3rd quarter before the reserves get their chance. Maybe this Saturday it will be different. RTR!!

Lane Kiffen could take care of Oregon for us.

Hmmm, not a bad idea, that would be sweet.

I really don't think there is any way Oregon would go in front of Bama.

You wouldn't think so with Bama's strenght of schedule and having lost to the #1 team in overtime.

We don't have the time nor the patience, to teach the rest of the country about football. Miss State has played head up with LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, and now Bama and deserve to be ranked accordingly (JMHO).

BTW, as far as Oegon goes, look back at the 2010 NCG and then the LSU game in Dallas. They are children and the SEC is Jerry Sandusky.

^^This. When you compare a 40-27 azz whooping to an extremely fortunate overtime, sneak out of town, by the seat of your pants win, there's no argument.

Herbstreit just made the argument a couple of hours ago.

Mississippi State played LSU tougher than Oregon did.  They both lost by 13, but Oregon was losing by 20 until they scored that last TD with 13 seconds left to try and make it look closer than it was.  Oregon was losing 30-13 when the 4th quarter started and LSU had the game well in hand.  MSU on the other hand was only losing 9 to 6 when the 4th quarter started and still was within reach right up until near the end of the game.

Mississippi State would give Oregon all they want if they played next week.

By the way LSU, who supposedly has no offense and beat Bama without either team even scoring a touchdown :eyeroll:, put up 40 points on that mighty Duck defense that all the talking heads are quacking about.  Meanwhile, God's gift to football Andrew Luck and his all powerful offense only scored 30 against the Ducks.

Of course those Pac-12 and Big-12 teams score insane points when they play each other.  If you took the best defensive players from every team in both conferences you might be able to field a middle of the pack SEC defense.  Spread those players out across over 20 teams and you end up with defenses that would struggle to stop an Alabama 6A high school team.

I'd put Vandy's "D" with Miss State in defenses that are better than the PAC 10-12 all star team in your example (hypothesis). Vandy has a better "D" than anyone I can name, in any conference (MSU too).

National Championship Game:
LSU vs Oklahoma State

Sugar Bowl:
Houston vs Alabama

Fiesta Bowl:
Oklahoma vs Stanford

Orange Bowl
Clemson vs unranked Cincinatti (another huge revenue loss for the Big East & Orange Bowl)

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I think it was Craig James on the BCS show who said that if Arky beats LSU then Arky should play in the BCSNCG.   :lol:

Arky?

Capital One Bowl
Arkansas vs Wisconsin

 :popcorn2:

Mark May and Rece Davis also are on the Bama bandwagon as the best one-loss team (which it is).  Lou Holtz tried to argue Oregon's side, but their demolition by LSU, and their offense's failure to score big against a weak Auburn defense last year, cuts against that argument.

I tweeted Jim Dunaway yesterday and asked him if Arky beats LSU is Bama in the Ntl Champ game,

He said "Boy, I dont think so...if LSU has one loss they beat Bama...so that no longer makes Alabama the best one lost team."

Good point, but I think it depends on how bad they lose too. would they fall below bama with a 3 pt loss? IDK but a 14 pt loss i think they would.

I think they just assigned some people to argue various sides, whether they actually believe it or not, just so all the bases are covered.  For example, they had Craig James arguing for Oregon at the beginning of the show, but then somebody asked him if they had them ranked ahead of Alabama on his AP ballot.  He laughed and said no, he had Alabama at number 3, which totally contradicted everything he just said about Oregon.

He forgets that Arkansas would still only have 1 loss.  The 3 would be tied.  So you would have to look at who had the closest game in their loss.  That rules out Arkansas, and it would probably come down to LSU or Alabama, depending on how close the game is between LSU and Arkansas.  Unless the game goes to OT, I think Bama wins that argument.  Remember, LSU will be at home against Arkansas too, so they won't have the away game argument to help them.

If the Hogs beat LSU the SEC front runner for the BCSCG will be who the SEC picks to go to the SECCG.

We are still in the BCS picture and that is more than I though possible a week ago. It is still out of our control. If LSU or Oklahoma State loses I think we are in good shape with the BCS computers. I am concerned about bias in the human polls. The rest of the country is tired of the SEC winning every year. The human polls carry the most weight and will determine who plays for the championship.

SEC Tiebreaker would be highest BCS ranked team, so there would be a lot of lobbying (and likely some suspect voting) at that point.  In a 3-way tie, Bama might (and should) win that argument, but I think that's a long shot -- LSU should beat Arkansas.

Yep. But so as to not FURTHER confuse poor ol' Dr. Lou, they let him pick, then argue against whatever crazy shat he decides to take.

I agree, LSU should win.  Arkansas has a chance of course, but I don't think it is much of one.  Maybe 80% LSU to 20% Arkansas.

I think our best chance is for Oklahoma to beat OSU.

It is a silly, insignificant poll, but do any of you know why the Sooners are #11 in the ESPNU fan poll?

They are #5 in the AP, USA Today, and BCS. :dunno:

ESPNU fans must think they are not very good because they got beat by a terrible Texas Tech team.

As long as they are good enough to beat OSU I don't care where they are ranked.  :D

Jerry Palm with CBS Sports is prediciting the Sooners will beat OSU and play in the BCSGC against LSU. I am worried about this senario. Anti-rematch voters will want this to happen.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions