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Title: Running up the score and power ratings:
Post by: hscoach on October 30, 2011, 10:56:39 AM
When does it become running up the score?  Why is Case Keenum throwing TD passes in the 4th quarter when leading 62-34?  I can say the same about OU.  Clearly KSU is finished in the 4th quarter and Landry Jones is still in there, 44-17, at this point.  I know they are trying to get Heisman votes, but why in the world would someone vote for this person when it is clear they are playing such an inferior team.  Also, it looks as if the OSU QB played the whole game. 

On the subject of power rankings/strength of schedule, how can a PAC, whatever the number is, be ranked ahead of an SEC team?  Even, the Big 12 with their numbers.  Let's look at TT beats Ou and then loses to ISU.  What power does that confernce have? 

I have included the strenght of schedule rankings, according to the experts.

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team


Title: Re: Running up the score and power ratings:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 30, 2011, 11:37:02 AM
One day we'll have one of these "power ranking or SOS" lists that has the equation for how they calculated the ratings. Two falicies or questionable issues come to mind. The first is when you beat a team. That automatically brings your SOS down because you just added a loss to your opponents loss column. I'm convinced this is even more evident in a case such as Florida, where the Tide beat them so bad they they got slaughtered the next week (hangover lasted 3-4 weeks ttl). They (UF) were a top 10 team until we got hold of them. Now they drag our SOS down. The teams getting credit (say Oregon vs LSU). Oregon gets credit for playing a strong team but I am not sure you should get FULL credit for losing.

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Title: Re: Running up the score and power ratings:
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on October 30, 2011, 12:00:15 PM
When does it become running up the score?  Why is Case Keenum throwing TD passes in the 4th quarter when leading 62-34?  I can say the same about OU.  Clearly KSU is finished in the 4th quarter and Landry Jones is still in there, 44-17, at this point.  I know they are trying to get Heisman votes, but why in the world would someone vote for this person when it is clear they are playing such an inferior team.  Also, it looks as if the OSU QB played the whole game.  

On the subject of power rankings/strength of schedule, how can a PAC, whatever the number is, be ranked ahead of an SEC team?  Even, the Big 12 with their numbers.  Let's look at TT beats Ou and then loses to ISU.  What power does that confernce have?  

I have included the strenght of schedule rankings, according to the experts.

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team

Another coach that is guilty of running up the score is Notre Dame's Kelly. He ran the score up on two of the outmanned service academies beating Air Force 58- 33 and yesterday Navy 59-14.

Stoops has always kept his starters in running up the score. In 2008 Oklahoma set the NCAA offensive record for most points scored in a season. Then the next year Oklahoma suffered because they had no experience on offense.


Title: Re: Running up the score and power ratings:
Post by: crtuneman on October 30, 2011, 12:24:47 PM
I hate that it has become acceptable to run up the score these days, but it's an inevitable result of the BCS polls. And I don't see it changing any time soon. I'm just glad we have a classy coach who doesn't care about polls and crap like that.


Title: Re: Running up the score and power ratings:
Post by: prevatt33 on October 30, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
When does it become running up the score?  Why is Case Keenum throwing TD passes in the 4th quarter when leading 62-34?  I can say the same about OU.  Clearly KSU is finished in the 4th quarter and Landry Jones is still in there, 44-17, at this point.  I know they are trying to get Heisman votes, but why in the world would someone vote for this person when it is clear they are playing such an inferior team.  Also, it looks as if the OSU QB played the whole game. 

On the subject of power rankings/strength of schedule, how can a PAC, whatever the number is, be ranked ahead of an SEC team?  Even, the Big 12 with their numbers.  Let's look at TT beats Ou and then loses to ISU.  What power does that confernce have? 

I have included the strenght of schedule rankings, according to the experts.

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/strength-of-schedule-by-team

2 things:

A)  Teams like Boise St, and to a lesser degree some Pac12 and Big12 teams, run the score up because they need to look better in the eyes of the voters to have a shot later in the year.  This, coupled with good, up-tempo, throw-all-the-time offenses that don't know how to eat clock and ATROCIOUS defenses, gives you ridiculous scores.

B)  Strength of schedule is a metric that should only be used to compare teams/schedules in a general way, not on a micro level, because Alabama's strength of schedule is less than what it could be because we have given every team on our schedule a loss, thereby dropping their rankings and hurting our SOS.  Ergo, if Bama played this same schedule with a crappy team, our SOS would be much better because all of those same teams would all have another win and one less loss.  Our SOS is lower because we're beating everyone.  It's flawed at best.


Title: Re: Running up the score and power ratings:
Post by: BAMAWV on October 30, 2011, 01:04:08 PM
Early in the season you can see (justify) wanting to get your guys as many reps as possible. Not this time of year. Like Hank said, Chip Kelly is bad about that, which to me, points to an uneducated fanbase gullible and easily impressed by such nonsense.