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Title: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: bamaphil on October 11, 2011, 12:34:41 AM
Obviously a lot can happen between now and the end of the year, but as it stands now five of the BCS conferences have potential undefeated teams.  Bama and LSU in the SEC, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. in the Big 12(10), Wisconsin in the Big 10(12), Clemson and Georgia Tech in the ACC, and Stanford in PAC 12.  There seems to be such a significant talent drop-off between the top and second-tier teams this year that it isn't a stretch to see this scenario playing out. 

Obviously the SEC winner would get in if this were to happen and OU/OSU would probably get the other spot.  There have been one-loss teams left out for another one-loss team, but I don't think we've seen an undefeated major conference team left out since the BCS started.  What would happen if one or more BCS conference teams go undefeated and don't get to play for the championship?  Nothing, or beginning of the end for the BCS?


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: 2Stater on October 11, 2011, 04:45:51 AM
Obviously a lot can happen between now and the end of the year, but as it stands now five of the BCS conferences have potential undefeated teams.  Bama and LSU in the SEC, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. in the Big 12(10), Wisconsin in the Big 10(12), Clemson and Georgia Tech in the ACC, and Stanford in PAC 12.  There seems to be such a significant talent drop-off between the top and second-tier teams this year that it isn't a stretch to see this scenario playing out. 

Obviously the SEC winner would get in if this were to happen and OU/OSU would probably get the other spot.  There have been one-loss teams left out for another one-loss team, but I don't think we've seen an undefeated major conference team left out since the BCS started.  What would happen if one or more BCS conference teams go undefeated and don't get to play for the championship?  Nothing, or beginning of the end for the BCS?

Clemson and Ga. Tech will likely play twice, once during regular season and once in the conference championship. I see them splitting that, so those 2 may be a non-factor. Wisconsin still has road games at Michigan State, Ohio State and Illinois, all games they should win, but a likely upset in at least 1 of the 3. It should come down to the SEC/Big 12. As you point out, however, there are no certainties. We'll have to see how it plays out.

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: cbbama99 on October 11, 2011, 09:09:56 AM
Obviously a lot can happen between now and the end of the year, but as it stands now five of the BCS conferences have potential undefeated teams.  Bama and LSU in the SEC, Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. in the Big 12(10), Wisconsin in the Big 10(12), Clemson and Georgia Tech in the ACC, and Stanford in PAC 12.  There seems to be such a significant talent drop-off between the top and second-tier teams this year that it isn't a stretch to see this scenario playing out. 

Obviously the SEC winner would get in if this were to happen and OU/OSU would probably get the other spot.  There have been one-loss teams left out for another one-loss team, but I don't think we've seen an undefeated major conference team left out since the BCS started.  What would happen if one or more BCS conference teams go undefeated and don't get to play for the championship?  Nothing, or beginning of the end for the BCS?

Clemson and Ga. Tech will likely play twice, once during regular season and once in the conference championship. I see them splitting that, so those 2 may be a non-factor. Wisconsin still has road games at Michigan State, Ohio State and Illinois, all games they should win, but a likely upset in at least 1 of the 3. It should come down to the SEC/Big 12. As you point out, however, there are no certainties. We'll have to see how it plays out.

 :popcorn2:

Speaking of those two teams (though slightly off topic), I was looking at how the ACC splits its divisions and it is even more strange than I realized. Clemson is in the same division with Maryland and BC but not Tech. Seems like it would make more sense to put FSU, Miami, GT, Clemson and two of the Carolina teams in one division, and then put other two Carolina teams in with UVA, Va Tech, Maryland and BC.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: bamaphil on October 11, 2011, 09:13:06 AM
How did I forget Auburn being left out in '04?  Been in China too long I guess.



Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 11, 2011, 10:45:59 AM
How did I forget Auburn being left out in '04?  Been in China too long I guess.



But that one doesn't count because nobody cared.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: ricky023 on October 11, 2011, 06:26:19 PM
What if the Big 12 and SEC have one undefeated team and Boise State is undefeated, now what? The media is going to eat this up. RTR!


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: 2Stater on October 11, 2011, 07:40:52 PM
How did I forget Auburn being left out in '04?  Been in China too long I guess.



But that one doesn't count because nobody cared.

 :lol:


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: Coach Hank Crisp on October 11, 2011, 07:45:10 PM
What if the Big 12 and SEC have one undefeated team and Boise State is undefeated, now what? The media is going to eat this up. RTR!

Boise will still miss out because their SOS will be in the negative range.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: bamaphil on October 11, 2011, 09:53:33 PM
Honestly at this point I'd almost like to see Bama face Boise in the BCSCG, beat them by 50 points and end the discussion about whether or not they belong.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 11, 2011, 09:59:18 PM

 :think:

I vote we call them the "blue field potato pickers" hence forth or till the end of time
or BFPP for short


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 10:15:25 PM

 :think:

I vote we call them the "blue field potato pickers" hence forth or till the end of time
or BFPP for short
Never harvested potatoes, I'm guessing.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 11, 2011, 10:25:15 PM
none , and don't plan to ...
 but I have been to Boise ... visited Simplot , Ore Ida and all the other potato
picking/packing facilities  ...

I just like the word "picker" really  :-[


I did work at a potato shed in Baldwin County Alabama for about 30 minutes one week   ;D


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
none , and don't plan to ...
 but I have been to Boise ... visited Simplot , Ore Ida and all the other potato
picking/packing facilities  ...

I just like the word "picker" really  :-[


I did work at a potato shed in Baldwin County Alabama for about 30 minutes one week   ;D
Pick apples, DIG potatoes.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 10:45:28 PM
none , and don't plan to ...
 but I have been to Boise ... visited Simplot , Ore Ida and all the other potato
picking/packing facilities  ...

I just like the word "picker" really  :-[


I did work at a potato shed in Baldwin County Alabama for about 30 minutes one week   ;D
Pick apples, DIG potatoes.
Also you make harvesting potatoes somehow derogatory. I DIG poatoes. Great source of potassium. Can't explain the blue football field though.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 10:46:55 PM
none , and don't plan to ...
 but I have been to Boise ... visited Simplot , Ore Ida and all the other potato
picking/packing facilities  ...

I just like the word "picker" really  :-[


I did work at a potato shed in Baldwin County Alabama for about 30 minutes one week   ;D
Pick apples, DIG potatoes.
Also you make harvesting potatoes somehow derogatory. I DIG poatoes. Great source of potassium. Can't explain the blue football field though.
BFPD sounds cooler anyway. JMHO--SIAP.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 11, 2011, 10:54:09 PM
nothing to do with potatoes , had them for dinner ...
it's the blue field horse heads from the potatoville that suck

I like fried , baked , sweet , boiled , crinkle , dinner , hashed , scattered ,covered and smothered

IT'S THAT DAMNED BLUE FIELD !
 IT MAKES ME CRAZY I TELL YA' !!!!!

can you DIG it ?

btw ... if you are ever in Yakima Washington and buy a box of apples and they tell you
that the apples are "ca" apples ... there not from California

 :D

 


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 11:07:27 PM
One town here has a Strawberry Festival in mid May. This town is about halfway between my house and CNS's neck of the woods. Anyway, strawberries aren't in season there for another month. Big bowls of red, ripe, and juicy looking strawberries,-- all from Cali.  :dunno:                 


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 11, 2011, 11:28:57 PM
tip ... if strawberries start to grow that white fuzzy hair stuff on em'
pour some ammonia on a rag and close it up with the berries
a 48 foot 102 inch wide stainless steel refrigerated Utility Trailer works great as a enclosure    
it's like a trip to the strawberry barber shop
not sure why , but it happens to the berries a lot on the trip east
usually somewhere between the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans for some reason ...    :dunno:


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Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 11:36:47 PM
tip ... if strawberries start to grow that white fuzzy hair stuff on em'
pour some ammonia on a rag and close it up with the berries
a 48 foot 102 inch wide stainless steel refrigerated Utility Trailer works great as a enclosure    
it's like a trip to the strawberry barber shop
not sure why , but it happens to the berries a lot on the trip east
usually somewhere between the Pacific and the Atlantic oceans for some reason ...    :dunno:
You a food broker, X?


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 11, 2011, 11:40:31 PM
I owed tractor trailers , reefers to be exact ... we hauled produce from the west coast ...
potatoes from Idaho too  :'(


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 11, 2011, 11:48:02 PM
I owed tractor trailers , reefers to be exact ... we hauled produce from the west coast ...
potatoes from Idaho too  :'(
How does that work? The refrigeration runs off the tractor motor or independently?


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 11, 2011, 11:55:56 PM
the Thermo-King unit on the trailer is stand alone
has a 50 gal. fuel tank under the trailer
it monitors the temperature you set it at and starts and stops when needed
works just like your house a/c only it runs off a diesel motor on the front of the trailer
it will keep a constant temp in the trailer regardless of the ambient temps outside
from below zero on up ... 
   


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 12:01:59 AM
the Thermo-King unit on the trailer is stand alone
has a 50 gal. fuel tank under the trailer
it monitors the temperature you set it at and starts and stops when needed
works just like your house a/c only it runs off a diesel motor on the front of the trailer
it will keep a constant temp in the trailer regardless of the ambient temps outside
from below zero on up ... 
   
Are most of them diesel---I would have guessed propane. I'm thinking of the reefer units being used as morgues in NOLA after Katrina.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 12, 2011, 12:11:54 AM
I never had any other than the diesel powered  Thermo-King
they use to run all the time then advanced to the auto start/shutdown system as
fuel got higher ...
I remember the day diesel went to $0.89.9  a gallon , I almost had a heart attack .
boy how thing have changed ....
fuel for the reefer didn't have road use tax on it though , it was about half price
so , you know , every chance a driver got , the reefer pump hose went in the truck tank  :-[
now they put dye in the off road fuel , get caught with it in the truck the fine is pretty high ... 
that stopped that little trick ...
 


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 12:18:56 AM
I never had any other than the diesel powered  Thermo-King
they use to run all the time then advanced to the auto start/shutdown system as
fuel got higher ...
I remember the day diesel went to $0.89.9  a gallon , I almost had a heart attack .
boy how thing have changed ....
fuel for the reefer didn't have road use tax on it though , it was about half price
so , you know , every chance a driver got , the reefer pump hose went in the truck tank  :-[
now they put dye in the off road fuel , get caught with it in the truck the fine is pretty high ... 
that stopped that little trick ...
 
We've been running our personal trucks off of the rig diesel tank for years. Guys even added auxillary tanks to run off the free diesel. Last I heard, it was so bad in Texas they could take your truck-- or some crazy fine close to that.


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 12, 2011, 12:30:16 AM
yeah "don't mess with Texas"   :lol:

you ain't got a lot to worry about in a regular truck like a f250-350 / chevy or whatnot
the DOT inspections the tractor trailers have to go through is a different story

free is always good , especially when that crap got up to $5 bucks a gallon  :o
ya'll are lucky ...

I have a friend that works for Chevron , he is in the diesel fuel plant
he tells me the actual fuel is not what is driving the price up 
it is all the additives they put in it to make it more environmentally friendly
go figure ... I like clean air a lot , but dang ... find a cheaper additive ?   
 


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 12:45:16 AM
Let's say back 2.5 years ago, if you had asked, I probably could not have told you when was the last time I had paid for fuel. lol But the fines started inching up. At the same time, they quit the 'only checking big trucks' policy and started checking P/Us. Listen to this song-- the line "takin' fuel from the tanks on the short ...". The Oil Co. Rep on location was filling his too, so he looked the other way. The roughnecks would come over and get my truck and fill it for me, so one of 'em could sit in the AC awhile. It was always wink-wink.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yXzZTYjUl0


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 12, 2011, 12:58:28 AM
that's cool ... and LOVE those CAT's ... it's all I ran ... guy in the song did his homework  LOL

didn't realize they had tightened up that much on the four wheeler fuel ...
we probably didn't help matters much , the guys were hitting the off road stuff pretty hard ...

one thing for sure ... if you got it ... it came on a truck ...
and without the fuel the truck don't come  ...

got a meeting early in the am ... just saw it's 1am   :o


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: BAMAWV on October 12, 2011, 01:01:23 AM
that's cool ... and LOVE those CAT's ... it's all I ran ... guy in the song did his homework  LOL

didn't realize they had tightened up that much on the four wheeler fuel ...
we probably didn't help matters much , the guys were hitting the off road stuff pretty hard ...

one thing for sure ... if you got it ... it came on a truck ...
and without the fuel the truck don't come  ...

got a meeting early in the am ... just saw it's 1am   :o
The artist--singer, writer- was definitely a roughneck--Canadian==Goodnight!


Title: Re: BCS Nightmare Scenario
Post by: XBAMA on October 12, 2011, 01:04:00 AM
 if I ever see him I'll give him a big ole "Aye"  and ask where's the bacon ! 

later ...


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