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We should have been running through, over, and around Kent State all game, but we didn't. It seems everyone has learned to simply stack the middle and don't worry about the passing attack. What do you all think?


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I think the Ol were not moving their feet very well and sustaining there blocks.  There was one running play where 3 linemen were standing around while the back was being hit in the backfield.

Interesting observation. I forgot to check your site. How could an experienced O-line make such a basic mistake? DO you think playing Jones at LT is a good idea?

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I think he may be better at LG. 

I'm heading to your site now. Thanks.

I think moving the OL around doesn't help the rb's much.

Maybe we can get big Cyrus some reps at LT before we hit the meat of the schedule so he can start at that spot.

We did not run the ball like I hoped. The OL did not play well and was far from the OL I expected. However, we won 48-7. The coaching staff has plenty to work on and I expect us to have a good week of preperation for Penn State. I think we are over analyzing this game.

The OL wasn't pretty but playing these linemen in different positions can be very beneficial if the injury bug hits the team. These weaker teams serve no more than a good training game for the experimental ideas.

What site?

"X's and O's with hscoach"

See drop-down options to find it.

I bet Penn State is concerned about our running game.

Sure they are, but then they will bunch up the middle and dare Bama to pass. Sound familiar?   :dog:

Isn't that what everyone does to every power team?  I mean, Oregon tried it against LSU.  It worked for a while.

Getting 20 points off of Oregon turnovers had a lot to do with that. Plus, we struggled running against Kent State, not an Oregon quality team. I am very inerested to see how we do running against Penn State. I wonder who starts at LT for us?

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After a couple of days to think about this, I am beginning to wonder if CNS was just experimenting with some guys to push them a little and get them some game experience at different spots.  Maybe we put in the "real" O-Line this week.  I hope.

Hard to argue with the results:

1.  QBs got hurried and hit to gain "game experience";
2.  Lots of trials with OL players at different positions;
3.  Lots of passing to get timing down;
4.  Plenty of receivers touched the ball, including young ones;
5.  Nobody got hurt.

I was under the impression that TR would get him about 200 yds to start a good year but he had I believe was 87 with 3 TDs. I do know that EL ran better for some reason this has me for sure miscombobulated. RTR!

I think TR only had 37, not 87.  Part of it was our strong defense and punt returns.  We kept getting the ball back with a short field.  But that was only a small part of it, the O-Line did have some issues.

Thanks SC, I didn't realize it was that low. I almost bet this takes him our of the HT discussion. I know Mark May had him as his darkhorse. I think it was him, anyway I was sure hoping he would have that great year. It can still happen we just have to play fundamental football. RTR!

The most interesting aspect of this game will be if the O-Line problems disappear or if we have some real problems there. I bet Barrett Jones starts at RG, not LT. Just thinking out loud.

Prediction: Tide 27  GrandPa State 10


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My question is why everyone is putting BJ at right guard when it seems to me most problems were with the left guard?

All of you guys are making great points. I thought TR might play the first half and then sit the rest of the game. I don't remember exactly when he sat down, but I thought after he would have at least 100 yards rushing. I thought this was one of those games that he would pad his stats for the Heisman run. Now to the offensive line. I'm no coach and I don't know how to fix it, but something will probably be done. My thing is, if we are going to have problems the whole year, better to fix them now. I say put everybody back to their original spot, and start Cyrus at LG. I remember about 6 or 7 years ago when all we did was run left behind Andre Smith. Everybod knew it, and we still ran the ball. We have to just find a way. Whether that means running between the tackles, or getting the ball outside. Did Vlachos play? Someone told me that they thought he was hurt and din't play. This may have had something to do with the struggles they were having. Let's go to Happy Valley and get a win! Roll Tide!

William Vlachos played.

He did play, but at one point they had Barrett Jones in at Center for some reason.  I suppose they were trying to get him some reps in case something happened to Vlachos during the season.

Center is the one position where there is no depth.

The practice report for today said they are working the OL hard after a disappointing showing Saturday.

If I had been TR Sat, I would have jumped the OL butts that day.  Told them I am tired of being hit as soon as I get the ball, now get your A**ES in gear and lets go.

They did a lot of mixing and matching Saturday for a reason The center position is the weak link in the chain because they don't have any depth, if Vlachos goes down there is no one right now, the other center has been hurt. We were told this at the last scrimmage. In order to back up the center position they had to take the most versatile lineman they had and that is Jones so I wasn't surprised at the positon changes.

I think Warmack may be the weak spot of the OL, he just doesn't impress me at all. Cujo will be ok, he just needs more playing time.

Thanks Coach. That is probably what my friend was talking about. When he said that I was thinking, Vlachos played.