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This has turned into a mess for The Committee.  All of the 1-loss teams won, and FSU barely won.  Ohio State crushed Wisconsin.

So who are the 4, and in what order??  I think The Committee does what they planned to do all along, assuming they weren't forced into a change: 4 conference champs:

1. Alabama Crimson Tide
2. Oregon
3. Ohio State
4. Florida State

You??

Most of the sportswriters (in the NE and midwest) think OSU should be among the 4!   :facepalm:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktgMxok1hjw

Here are some opinions about #1 (Fox Sports).

Tide
Fightin' Donald Ducks
Horseshoe University
Fightin' Urbans

I agree with you, no Big 12 and Bama gets the Big 10 in New Orleans. :clap:

1.  Bama
2. Oregon
3. TCU
4. FSU

Do you think the Big 12 and Notre Dame will get the message sent by the committee, conference champs will play for the title.

Big time!

I'm thinking that TCU and Baylor get left out, especially after a big Ohio State win.  Besides not having a championship game, Oklahoma's loss hurts them both.  That was among their best wins.  With Oklahoma State beating OU, the conference strength falls apart!

You are dead on with your analysis of the Big 12 being left out. I have never understood why they don't have a championship game. :dunno:

Ed Zachary! TCU and Baylor are out, even though they can't totally discount OSU's loss to Va Tech. But I think the committee will overlook that to send the message; "Conference champs only!".

I see it as:

1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. Ohio State
4. FSU

Bama
Oregon
OSU
FSU

Money and tradition rule the day. PAC 12-Big10 matchup in the Rose Bowl, Bama and FSU playing close to home in the Sugar Bowl.

With no defenses, upsets are the norm for the Big 12.
Guess they fear a chance of their "best team" losing during the final week.   :dunno:

Craziest seeding is FSU.  They prolly shouldn't even be in the final 6, but no way the committee will leave them out.  But if they're in, who's out??

This we know for sure. By 1pm EST two teams, their school officials, their conference officials, their governors and US Sentators, their local media, and their fan bases, will be going full-out, apoplectic, bat-schize crazy, and this will be the second most entertaining thing that happens this weekend. I do not need to tell you what the most entertaining this was. Roll Tide.

If they weren't Florida St and the defending champs I don't think they'd get in. No way they get left out though, even if no one believes they're actually one of the four best teams.

The BCS was supposed to eliminate controversy and result in a clear champion. Then the four team playoff was supposed to eliminate controversy. I think 8 teams is inevitable, but then the arguments will be over who is 7 and 8. 

True.  Consider it; Marshall got NO LOVE for being undefeated (when they were), but FSU gets into the playoffs by playing a weak schedule (poorly) and being undefeated.  Politics of being the defending champ (as you said), plus managing to escape the upsets.  Sad.

I'd love it if they were left out.  I'm sure some on the committee are voting that way, but no way they get left out.

Oddly enough, as inconsistent as FSU has been, I think they could beat Oregon and Ohio State. We will stomp a mud hole in their azz.

If you remember, the Big12 did have a championship game up until aTm and Missouri left for THE Southeastern Conference.  The Big12 now only has 10 teams and if I'm not mistaken I believe the NCAA doesn't allow a championship game for conferences with less than 12 members.

The Big 12 doesn't have a championship game because they don't have at least 12 teams, as required by NCAA rules.  There was a Big12 Championship game in the late 1990s, but when Colorado and Nebraska announced that they were leaving the conference in 2010, that put an end to the game.  The Big12 scrambled to add other members, WV and TCU, but TA&M and Mizzou moved to the SEC, and the Big12 currently has 10 teams.  OK and Texas weren't too much in favor of the game anyway, considering it an extra hurdle. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_Championship_Game

Just to be different.

1 UA
2 OU
3 TCU
4 FSU

The talking heads are defending this. Their argument is how can you drop a team from 3rd to 5th after winning 55-3?

I don't like the message of "conference champs only."  Most years the SEC #2 can stomp a mudhole in several of the other conference champs.  This year for example,  Mississippi State could beat Ohio State, Florida State, TCU, Baylor, and Oregon.  For that matter, Ole Miss could whip most of them.  Auburn and LSU would give them competitive games and beat at least half of them.

If they are going to put such an emphasis on conference champs, then they need to have enough slots for all 5 conference champs and then 3 at large teams.  Eliminate one of the cupcake games and go back to 11 regular season games.

As for the 4 to make it in, I have no idea.  Alabama and Oregon are in for sure.  The others will know in about 20 minutes.

This is obviously the best long term solution. 

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Final AP Poll.

1. Alabama (27)    12-1    1,452    1
2. Florida St. (25)    13-0    1,436    2
3. Oregon (8 )    12-1    1,426    3
4. Baylor    11-1    1,265    5
5. Ohio St.    12-1    1,262    6
6. TCU    11-1    1,257    4
7. Michigan St.    10-2    1,105    7
8. Mississippi St.    10-2    1,070    10
9. Mississippi    9-3    976    13
10. Georgia Tech    10-3    876    12
11. Kansas St.    9-3    875    9
12. Arizona    10-3    819    8
13. Georgia    9-3    745    15
14. UCLA    9-3    663    16
15. Arizona St.    9-3    602    17
16. Missouri    10-3    599    14
17. Wisconsin    10-3    542    11
18. Clemson    9-3    509    19
19. Auburn    8-4    450    20
20. Louisville    9-3    406    21
21. Boise St.    11-2    368    22
22. LSU    8-4    221    23
23. Utah    8-4    134    24
24. Southern Cal    8-4    112    NR
25. Nebraska    9-3    79    25

Just to be clear, I agree that the BEST 4 TEAMS should be in the playoffs.  But I think these clowns scheduled this playoff so the Big Ten could get in.  And that's what I think they'll do.

Without a doubt, were the BCS still in existence, we'd be playing FSU for the BCSNC.  But Oregon is better than FSU.  So maybe this playoff is working.

I think they should use the power index to determine the 4, not some group of representatives from the far reaches of the football kingdom.  Lots of lesser tribes among those far reaches!   :lol2:

Also in this scenario, some upstart could invent an NIT type 4 team or 8 team post season tournament to entertain us during christmas

Easy. The teams behind them had opportunities to show out against ranked teams and they did.

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2 minutes...

There will be 15 minutes of gobbly gook

These guys have gotten to the rankings pretty fast, at least up until now...

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Does anybody really think all 6 teams between Alabama and Mississippi State could beat Mississippi State?  I hope they play to their potential in the bowl game and blow out one of those teams.  The SEC teams that don't make it into the playoff need to play to establish dominance for next year's selection committee, unlike what we do when we don't make it in.

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Brilliant idea.  That would keep the have-nots motivated for the post season.

WOOOT

Alabama team watching the picks...

:jump:

Official announcement is at 11:45

Think about this.  What would have happened this year had we smacked down Choklahoma like we should have?  TCU and Baylor probably would have never even made it into the conversation this year.

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Oh yeah, I forgot.   :-[

Hope Danny Kanell vomits when FSU is left out!   :lol2:

Now reese is making me a liar and says the rankings are in...

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"Golf Clap."   :lol:

Ohio State in the sugar bowl.  #+

Bama gets the fighting Urbans.   :clap:


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So, TCU won big, but dropped 3 spots (3rd to 6th).

5. Baylor
6. TCU

Everyone else won a big game.

Oregon will Slaughter FSU and UA will destroy OSU.

Oregon will be tough on the turf in Dallas.

Those 2 can blame chOKLAHOMA.

That too.  Good job big game bob

How long for the Big12 to add two more teams and a championship game, instead of proclaiming "One True Champion?"   :lol:   ???

Didn't the SEC played a CG with 12 teams?   :dunno:

Hey TCU...........

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BAZINGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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No Aubs?

Well we have said several times how we wanted OSU so they could learn a lesson. Well now we got them. So, let's see how we are going to stand up now. Personally I pray we win but I sure think it will be close. To beat a team 59-0 takes a good team. I do hope we don't walk in with the throw our helmet in the game and we win. This going to take a National Championship game every week. I do think if we win it will be Oregon who has wanted us for a long time. It is time to roll up our britches and go to work now. RTR!

Yep, and so did the Big12.  But the Big12 is down to 10 teams now.   :lol2:

I saw how excited we was on TV until Rece Davis said something they weren't even clapping hands. rofl. Business as usual. RTR!

Memphis is available!  And South Alabama.

Reese is giving this dude the business.   :lol:

Yep, and he's doing a good job answering/deflecting.   :lol2:

It looks like they are projecting Mississippi State v. TCU and Ole Miss v. Baylor.

Those two Mississippi schools are going to have their hands full, Big12 teams with something to prove.  

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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/12/7/7347313/bowl-projections-schedule-2014-college-football-playoff

Jimbo looks like he just did something wrong

He's doing his Winston impression.

Trey DePriest is going to love this matchup with Ohio State.

Any other players from Ohio?

This should be like a home game for us. Trey will be stoked.

Here is what I thought last night responding to SUPERCOACH.

MD, you butchered the quote, but you nailed the prediction.  I thought this might happen too.

Coach Gary Patterson is a class act

Missed it. What did he say?

Everything a classy coach would say

WOO HOO!!! NAILED IT!!!

Hush yo mouth about the Jags! They are already in a conference that plays better football than the Big 12!! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

I'm a computer idiot & did not know how to transfer the original post from one thread to another.



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The remaining non-playoff major bowls are great. OM has a chance to rep on the ACC. MSUs has a chance to show that TCU maybe didn't deserve to be in the top 4 after all.

AZ vs. Boise is okay if you like that sort of thing.
Then MSUn and Baylor

So, Big12 can make their case that they were underrated. SEC can make the case that the bias and hype aren't.

I really would like the ole fly in the ointment to go away. :facepalm:

Got a link, ATU?

Here you go my friend

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11993817/college-football-playoff-new-year-six-bowl-pairings-set (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11993817/college-football-playoff-new-year-six-bowl-pairings-set)

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Interesting matchups. I would think TCU bashes Mich St in Dallas. If Good Bo shows up, I think Ole Miss beat Baylor. I also wonder if TCU and Baylor have letdowns since they didn't make the playoffs. I think maybe Miss St and Ga Tech could go either way. Pretty cool though, that Miss St is going to the Orange Bowl.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11993817/college-football-playoff-new-year-six-bowl-pairings-set (http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11993817/college-football-playoff-new-year-six-bowl-pairings-set)

FIFM  :-[

You are so credible that I took the info from your post and started a thread in Woolly without proofing the link. They called me on it.  :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

YOU are so gullible.   :lol2:

:lol2:  Glad to see you made it out alive.

He'll never be the same.

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I live in CRS, which makes Chuck Norris look like a wuss in my presence.  8)

I really though they would put OSU at 3 and FSU at 4.  It will be fun to put a beating on Meyer and the Buckeyes though. 

Bob Bowlsby (Big 12 Commissioner) was interviewed on "Mike and Mike" this morning.  When asked about the Big 12 adding more teams and a CG, he kept returning to their policy of "One True Champion" (everyone playing each other).  He said their rules about tie breakers (head-to-head wins) are for bowl pairings, and they'll continue to name co-champions if teams have similar records.

Bottom line: they ain't changing any time soon.  Their schedules for next year are set, and adding teams would only solve the problem 2-3 years from now (and after an 8-team playoff was in place - possibly).

RIP, Big 12.   :wave:

Jeff Long kept insisting yesterday that the lack of a Big 12 CG had no bearing at all, on their decision to leave out Baylor and TCU.

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Let the record show that a CRS representative always buys dinner first.   ;)

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The Big 12 struggles with counting.  Only 10 teams actually in the conference, and 2 co-champions is not 1 true champion.

I note on the coaches poll that the Baylor coach, Art Briles, put Bama in 4th place just behind his team.

Probably why nobody found his plea to make the playoffs, credible.

You can bet the Big12 is already scrambling, but will never admit to it.


It is also pure coincidence that Florida State went back into the third spot, with Ohio State at fourth. 

So we have two story lines for two playoff games: 
(1) Saban v. Meyer, the renewed rivalry, and
(2) Last year's Heisman winner v. (probably) this year's Heisman winner.

Of course, none of this played any part in the committee's deliberations.   :jokerface:

I was pretty sure they'f put OSU at 3 to create a PAC12/Big 10 Rose Bowl.