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Title: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 03, 2014, 01:11:43 PM
Strange goings-on.



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On Tuesday, Seminoles players Chris Casher and Ronald Darby refused to testify during the hearing, people familiar with the case said.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11972075/jameis-winston-student-conduct-code-hearing-florida-state-day-2


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 03, 2014, 01:16:01 PM
Even if nothing comes of this, it might be just enough of a distraction to give Georgia Tech an advantage.  FSU needs to be focused on learning how to defend the triple option this week, not worrying about what is going on in this kangaroo court.


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: Chechem on December 03, 2014, 01:22:25 PM
As I've said, these disciplinary hearings are a big deal on campus.  They are not a student-body court; faculty judge the student behavior.

At least when I've been involved, the committees have no sense of humor or patience with student nonsense.  It may be different at FSU, but I've been on these at 2 other schools, and it's uncommon for students charged to be found innocent.  The lawyers cannot address the faculty.  The charges are read, and students must defend themselves.  These hearings are not held unless charges have been put forth.

As per the 2 players refusing to testify, I doubt it happened that way.  Students who are requested to be present will suffer penalties if they don't show up.  More likely that those 2 players weren't required to attend, so they did not.  Keep in mind that they are witnesses on Jameis' behalf too.

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: N.AL-Tider on December 03, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Strange goings-on.



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On Tuesday, Seminoles players Chris Casher and Ronald Darby refused to testify during the hearing, people familiar with the case said.


http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11972075/jameis-winston-student-conduct-code-hearing-florida-state-day-2
By refusing to testify they should be subject to the same penalties Winston is if he is found guilty of anything for helping to cover it up IMO...


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: Jamos on December 03, 2014, 05:20:09 PM
I think I remember Winston's lawyer boasting about this hearing wouldn't last maybe 1 day and no more than 2 days. He seemed to think that once the Judge heard Winston's side of the story and how wrong the young lady and her story was, it would be all over. Well we are through day 2 and it's not all over yet. :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: Chechem on December 03, 2014, 06:48:25 PM
I think I remember Winston's lawyer boasting about this hearing wouldn't last maybe 1 day and no more than 2 days. He seemed to think that once the Judge heard Winston's side of the story and how wrong the young lady and her story was, it would be all over. Well we are through day 2 and it's not all over yet. :popcorn2:

It ended after 2 full days.

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Both sides will submit briefs to Harding within the next week and he will have up to 10 class days to decide the outcome. The last day for fall semester final exams is Dec. 12 and spring semester classes begin on Jan. 7. John Clune, a Title IX attorney for the woman, said he expects a decision within 2-3 weeks...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/acc/2014/12/03/jameis-winston-florida-state-hearing-second-day/19826149/


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: McBaman on December 03, 2014, 07:37:30 PM
So, basically, what we have here is a he said/she said kind of thing.  Except that it sounds like she said a lot and JW said not much.


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: Chechem on December 03, 2014, 07:41:34 PM
So, basically, what we have here is a he said/she said kind of thing.  Except that it sounds like she said a lot and JW said not much.

Here's a key element, the first officer to respond.  The police were called at 4:30AM, just hours after the incident.  Doesn't sound like someone seeking $$$.

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FSU police officer Dinorah Harris arrived shortly before 10 a.m. and confirmed that she would testify. Harris was the first officer to respond on Dec. 7, 2012, when the woman's friend called police.

They called the police before they called her parents. 


Title: Re: Jameis Winston Hearing in Progress
Post by: ALTideUp on December 03, 2014, 07:49:08 PM
 Winston made a statement but did not submit to questioning. This is apparently consistent with the judicial boards written policies and procedures. The article I read did not say how the refusal to answer questions could or couldn't figure in to the judgment.