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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--colorado-state-coach-jim-mcelwain-a-leading-candidate-for-florida-job-011656592.html

Holy Moly!  Don't do it!  They will grind you up and spit you out.

If he takes it I hope he does just well enough to stick around, but doesn't get good enough to beat Bama.

Wow, did not see that one coming. He is an offensive-minded coach & has current HC experience, two Florida requirements. Plus, he served on 2 NC teams with Nick Saban. Pretty good resume'.




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^THIS^

I don't see it.

Hugh Freeze weighing competing offers from Florida, Ole Miss
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/11/30/7306217/hugh-freeze-florida-football-ole-miss-head-coach

Ole Miss had better pass the hat for donations.

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Coach Mac may take that job. I read somewhere that CSU has pretty bad facilities and refuses to entertain any thoughts of upgrading them. Don't know if that's true or not, but if it is, I could see him leaving there for UF.

UF wants an answer SOON.  They want to give the new HC a chance to recruit.

Expect UF to announce within a week.  Meanwhile, Mac and Freeze had better use their leverage while they can!

Florida has pretty bad facilities currently too.  The promise of an upgrade could be the trump card that gets Coach Mac to make the move...

Freeze has been offered the job.  Mac has not.

If Coach Mac takes it, I hope he is ready for the job.  It is quite a leap from HC at Colorado State to HC at any SEC school.  And UF is not just any ol' SEC school, they expect to compete for and win championships.

Now that makes sense.

The late-Monday-AM reports indicate that Mac is now considered the leading candidate.  Did Freeze turn them down??

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Unless he had HC experience before he came to Alabama, I just don't see that being a good move for either side.

Read UF is gauging Chip Kelly's interest to return CFB...

Yep  http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/12/01/source-university-of-florida-to-contact-chip-kelly-regarding-head-coaching-vacancy/

Sounds like Hugh Freeze will get a $4M offer and a raise for his assistants at Ole Miss.

This is word-of-mouth chatter around Oxford.  If it's published, I'll post a link.

Finebaum just said that Freeze is in talks with UF for around $4 mil a year, unless I misunderstood him. Hope someone else was watching/listening.

Stinchcomb just put his list on the SEC Network,

"Stinchcomb's Fit for Florida Head Coach"

1. Chip Kelly
2. Bob Stoops
3. Dan Mullen
4. Rich Rodriguez
5. Mike Gundy

We have confirmation.  Dude, it's Stoops!

Without a playoff, I think some of those guys would have considered it.

If Auburn steals another coach from Ole Miss, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the Oxford KKK doesn't go down to Lee County and burn the campus. ;)

How do we get onto the second page of coaching thread before someone busts the Stoops line?!?  We just have to start doing a better job of doing the things we need to do to achieve the level of success that we wanna achieve.

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E-creds for both of you clowns.  :lol2:

Okay, it's official.  Lots of links:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11966893/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-rebels-agrees-contract-extension

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/12/2/7304653/hugh-freeze-ole-miss-florida-josh-mcdaniels

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/94748/freeze-staying-is-a-major-win-for-ole-miss

Saban has said that so many times you're probably saying it in your sleep.   :lol:


I couldn't believe Stinchcomb played the Stoops card.   :lol2:

According to this, Coach McElwain is taking the Florida job:

http://florida.247sports.com/Bolt/TE-postpones-Colorado-State-trip-told-coach-leaving-for-Florida-33485504


Also, this: http://gamedayr.com/sports/college-ncaa/florida-gators/florida-gators-jim-mcelwain-126889/

I'll believe it when I see it.



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Unless Dee Hart transfers to UF and gets another 4 years of eligibility, they're in trouble with Coach Mac.

But UF seems intent on getting him now that Freeze is staying at OM.

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Coach Mac is an offensive minded coach and UF needs offense, badly. With a good DC, I think he can turn the program around in a couple of years, maybe 3. I think he would be a good hire.

Allegedly as part of the deal, Florida would keep its current DC. 

Thursday AM update (per SEC Network):

CSU won't reduce the buyout, and UF said they won't hire him unless it's reduced.  The negotiations are at a standstill.

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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/11977425/jim-mcelwain-becomes-florida-gators-coach

Done deal...

Good luck Coach Mac

Well, it took all of 4 minutes to call that bluff.

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$3 million plus $2 million plus $2 millions =  ??

I guess the best Florida could do is negotiate the payment terms.

Colorado State actually made $1,500,000 on the Coach Mac hire.  They paid him $5.5 mil over the 4 years, and got $7 mil in buyout money. All of that $1.5 mil profit comes out of Coach Mac's pocket, since he is paying them $2,000,000 over time.  Coach Mac rescued their program from the dumpster, and they thank him by charging him $2,000,000 to leave.  These numbers don't take into consideration the money Bama paid them to come to Tuscaloosa and play, the extra tickets and concessions they sold at home games, the extra royalties on gear, the extra donations they must have received when they improved their record, etc., etc.

Good points. CSU came out like a Bandit.  But Coach Mac's agent probably negotiated, and wanted, the $7 million buyout.  

And a deal's a deal.  :think:

When we play Fla. do you think Coach Mc would be welcomed in BDs or would he be booed? Just a thought came passing by. RTR!

My money is on him getting a standing ovation.

I understand that a deal is a deal.  No problem.

But, why would Coach Mac's agent want the buyout?  He would negotiate for the guaranteed contract, but the buyout would be asked for by the school.  The penalty buyout is what Coach Mac had to give up to get his guaranteed contract.  Taking a long term guaranteed contract, offset by a large penalty buyout is  almost like betting that you will fail.  You will only benefit from the long term contract guarantee, if you aren't doing well, and the school wants to get rid of you.  If you are successful, some other school is going to want to hire you and that buyout will be a stumbling block.

At the top of the chain, CNS has a large guaranteed contract, with no penalties for leaving early.  That is the way his original contract was written, and my guess is that it is still that way.  He can coach at some other school, or go to the lake and watch ducks squat in the yard, anytime he wants to.  His paycheck will stop, but he won't have to pay a buyout.  And if Bama decides they no longer want his service, they will just send him the remainder of his pay checks until the end of his contract.  OHS NO, what did we get ourselves into??

Bottom line, I am glad that UF worked it out and got CJM.  One of my favorite coaches.

You answered it yourself.  The school required a large buyout (and it paid off).

I don't know about CNS's contract, and I hope we never have to worry about it.   :worship:

Amen.

I was responding to Prothro's comment that the agent wanted the buyout.  They accepted it, but they sure as hell didn't want it.  I pay $2.45 per gallon for gasoline, but I don't want to.  I do it because that is the price I "must" pay.  I guess I define "wanted" differently than you. No problem.  ROLL TIDE!

I also hope we never have to find out about CNS' contract.

Good points you make.  I failed to differentiate between the guarantee and buyout, although they typically go together.  At one time, it was the same penalty, for the coach or school, but you're right, they seem to be addressed separately now.   But usually doesn't the buyout amount go down over the course of the contract, the same way the guarantee would go down?  This $7 million flat rate is old school, and my thinking was that the amount would be the same if they fired Coach Mac.


CNS's contract is unique.  I think Saban is the only major coach with guaranteed money but without a buyout clause.  Mal Moore knew Saban would be a home run hire.  So he handed Saban a blank piece of paper and said, "Write down whatever you want."  

Right!  I'm glad Mal knew it would be a home run, and I'm glad he was right.  So far, it looks like a grand slam, in the bottom of the 9th, in the 7th game of the World Series.

When Mal made the hire, I remember the local radio talk show host here, preaching to the Bama fans, saying:  "You're not gonna like what you get."  Well, 8 years later, we like what we got, thank you very much.