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Title: NCAA in Trouble, Again
Post by: Marshal Dillon on December 19, 2013, 11:45:29 PM
Geez, this bunch is as dysfunctional as the Obama administration.



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Despite its stated founding principles, the NCAA, in a recent court filing, claimed it's not the organization's responsibility to physically protect student-athletes.

“The NCAA denies that it has a legal duty to protect student-athletes,” the court filing stated, which was obtained by The Washington Times. “But [the NCAA] admits that it was ‘founded to protect young people from the dangerous and exploitative athletic practices of the time.'”


http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/24380786/ncaa-denies-legal-duty-to-protect-student-athletes-court-filing-says



Title: Re: NCAA in Trouble, Again
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 20, 2013, 06:27:06 AM
Geez, this bunch is as dysfunctional as the Obama administration.



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Despite its stated founding principles, the NCAA, in a recent court filing, claimed it's not the organization's responsibility to physically protect student-athletes.

“The NCAA denies that it has a legal duty to protect student-athletes,” the court filing stated, which was obtained by The Washington Times. “But [the NCAA] admits that it was ‘founded to protect young people from the dangerous and exploitative athletic practices of the time.'”


http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on-sports/24380786/ncaa-denies-legal-duty-to-protect-student-athletes-court-filing-says


What is it supposed to do, say that the player's death was its fault and sue it for millions?   ???


Title: Re: NCAA in Trouble, Again
Post by: pmull on December 20, 2013, 08:21:07 AM
Football is a violate sport and serious injuries can and sometimes do happen. I think the NCAA along with member schools have a responsibility to try and protect the players while maintaining the integrity of the game. However, I do not think the NCAA, schools and coaches should be held responsible if a player is injured. I think players should be required to sign documents holding the NCAA, schools and coaches harmless if an injury occurs. If they don't sign, they don't play.

I still say football is good for kids at the jr high, high school and college levels. Football is safer than riding skate boards, motorcycles/dirt bikes/four wheeler's, driving cars and many other activities kids do. It is certainly better than alcohol and drugs. Football, and sports in general, teach kids discipline, leadership and teamwork. These are skills they will use their entire life. 

In this case I agree with the position the NCAA is taking. I do not want to see football turned into an intramural flag football game.


Title: Re: NCAA in Trouble, Again
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 20, 2013, 09:22:35 AM
I've done that "Oklahoma style" drill, though I didn't know it is called that.  I didn't know they were still doing it.

I have no opinion on the liability of the coaches, but I don't see how the NCAA could have prevented this injury.  They do sent out materials on the dangers of concussions; I don't what more could be expected of them.  They cannot be expected to monitor individual practices.

Whether the coaches were at fault for prompting the player to continue with the drill despite bleeding from his head appears to be for the jury to decide.


Title: Re: NCAA in Trouble, Again
Post by: pmull on December 20, 2013, 09:39:17 AM
I've done that "Oklahoma style" drill, though I didn't know it is called that.  I didn't know they were still doing it.

I have no opinion on the liability of the coaches, but I don't see how the NCAA could have prevented this injury.  They do sent out materials on the dangers of concussions; I don't what more could be expected of them.  They cannot be expected to monitor individual practices.

Whether the coaches were at fault for prompting the player to continue with the drill despite bleeding from his head appears to be for the jury to decide.

I think the coaches have some liability if they require players to participate in unsafe practice drills. I do not think they should be responsible for normal football injuries. I know that is a slippery slope deciding what drills are safe or not. That would have to be determined on a case by case situation. I agree the NCAA can not control what a coach does in practice.


Title: Re: NCAA in Trouble, Again
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 20, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
How did he get a fatal head injury that was bleeding profusely?  Did the helmet break?  Did he have a skull fracture with a protruding bone fragment?  I've never seen an "external" head injury in football, other than maybe a non-fatal laceration.


Title: Re: NCAA in Trouble, Again
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 20, 2013, 03:39:40 PM
How did he get a fatal head injury that was bleeding profusely?  Did the helmet break?  Did he have a skull fracture with a protruding bone fragment?  I've never seen an "external" head injury in football, other than maybe a non-fatal laceration.
It sounded to me that the impact of the helmet against his forehead caused the bleeding.  But I don't think that's the cause of death, likely an internal brain injury (brain against skull leading to swelling and eventual death).