Crimson Red Sports

Well, he's in deep sheet now.


http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/05/harvey_updyke_now_facing_feder.html

They have to try to find a way to get this poor man, if the trees don't get sick and die. This barn persecution and prosecution of an obviously sick individual is disheartening. What happened to compassion in this country, where people felt the need to help those among us that have mental health issues. HU needs hugs, not hate. These barn people are blood thirsty vultures and must be stopped.

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I'm trying to wrap my brain around what the Federal charges could be. Last I heard, Oak trees were not an endangered species, so what could it be? Maybe.......

1) Taking attention away from the FBI investigation of the barn?
2) Failing to pay income tax on the money he was paid because he is now a celebrity?
3) Toomers Corner is a national laughing stock landmark?

Harvey deserves it. I can't believe anyone defends the guy, he embarrassed, UA, Bama fans, the state of Alabama with his moronic behavior. 

He is obviously not competent to stand trial. I would hope the Univerity of Alabama would take the higher ground and offer to pay for medical treatment for Harvey. Not for replacing a couple of stupid toilet trees. Auburn wanting to prosecute to the fullest, a man whose mental stabilty is impaired, is heartless and inhumane.

These blood thirsty vultures must be stopped.

I say hang him before the trees die.

This is the same lynch-mob mentality prevailing in Lee County. This emotionally crippled man needs clean sheets and medication. Not a van by the river. Where is your compassion for a fellow human being. The barn is in such a rush to convict and punish that returning this man, suffering from a treatable illness, to being a productive and valued member of society is lost. Hopefully, compassion and societal sympathy will win out.

The blood thirsty barn vultures must be stopped.

Harvey knew what he was doing, he knew it was wrong, then goes on Finebaum to brag about it. Sick? No! Stupid? Yes!  I'll save my compassion for tornado victims.

You heartless fiend, with all due respect. Yes he called PF. Yes he is probably guilty. But the very fact that he turned himself in to a radio audience screams out as a call for help. Would you imprison a cancer victim? This man has a treatable illness and can be helped, but not if this blood thirsty lynch mob mentality prevails. What would Jesus do? I would expect better from the U of A had the situation been reversed. RTR

I think I'm going to throw up.  :what:

Well I appreciate the fact somebody makes a stand for an illness. RTR!

It is the right thing to do, Preacher. This man needs our help, not our penal system.

These blood thirsty barner vultures must be stopped.

Well I think everybody sees him as the one who must take a fall for the nation. Some one has to why not him? Is he going to be a martyr? RTR!

Yes, no doubt he is ill and needs a chocolate ice cream cone and not be allowed to watch TV for 6 months as punishment plus a taxpayer funded trip to Gulf Shores while he recuperates.

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Of course I would send a cancer patient to prison if they committed a serious crime! If you want to find sympathy for Harvey Updyke, it is in the dictionary between s**t and syphilis.

I'll bet a million e-creds that a some point, a mentally diminished individual from Bryce has wandered over to the University and broken in a car or bulding, or caused some other damage. Further, I am equally sure the University of Alabama did not rush to tar and feather, or even consider revenge punishment as an option. We are a people of forgiveness and compassion.

These blood thirsty barn vultures must be stopped.

Or a "mentally diminished" individual has wandered over and raped, murdered, or assaualted a young child and was compassionately treated and released by bleeding heart do-gooders.

Wow. These toilet trees must mean more to you than I had imagined.

Harvey did a stupid thing and damaged the reputation of all Bama fans. Rather than embracing him, he needs to be punished and scorned.

I'll grant you his acts were lunacy. Thats what lunatics do. But to compare his deed to the rape of a child is also lunacy, in the view of most people. I'm simply saying that dragging his naked body through the streets of Awbren is not the course of a compassionate society. 60 days in jail benefits no one, where treatment for an obvious sickness would.  But I respect your love for the trees and respect your opinion on this topic. #+

These blood thirsty barn vultures must be stopped.  

I am convinced Almost, that they were living, breathing, touching lives trees. What more could they be? RTR!

What is the punishment for attempted murder of a tree? As far as I know these trees are not dead yet.

Back to the original question, why are they charging him for a federal offense?

The idiot Updyke has already been indicted by the State of Alabama so I don't see why the Feds feel compelled to jump in. I would hope they are too busy pursuing crooked politicans, child pornographers, terrorists, and murderers to worry about a stupid old man who poisoned two trees.

I don’t know if Mr. Updyke is sick. I guess his attorney could request his client, Mr. Updyke be examined by a court appointed state psychiatrists and a private psychiatrists. I just don’t see him getting any sympathy from a district judge and jury in Lee County.  Now, a federal judge!

The Feds stepped in and added charges. The nature of the Federal charges is not yet known. The Fed usually has some catch all charges just in case the state misses a conviction they don’t. Mr. Updyke did a stupid, irrational thing to begin with by poisoning the oak trees.

Then he followed up that stupid act with another stupid act when he called Finebaum and confessed to the crime of poisoning the trees and even gave the name of the chemicals used. State judge and now a federal judge is going to look at the facts of the crime and then Mr. Updyke’s confession on XM radio, and slam the defendant with a maximum period.

I didn’t know any of this about the trees until I read some article last week. I don’t remember the link. Sorry.

Statement concerning Toomers Trees:

Auburn University  has taken offshoots from those oak trees and have planted Toomers Trees all over the place and have plaques stating the tree is from famous Toomers Corner oak trees in Auburn Alabama. The are several Toomers Trees planted at the Alabama state capitol building. Also just this past week one was to be planted at the US Capital building. A Florida US House of Representatives graduate from Auburn has spent time with paper work and shipping of a small 4 foot Toomers Oak plus plaque to US Capital grounds keeper. It is in ground keeper’s storage buildings or they may have just planted it this week. Many Auburn fans have planted small oak trees from the Toomers Trees.

Back to the case:
If guilty, the state will give his sentence in years and the gov’t will give his sentence in months.  Updykes’s attorney may want to go the route of mental illness. Then the courts would have to decide his mental capability of standing trail.

I, personally think he should be hung, because if he is an Alabama fan, what classless, harmful, mean, criminal act. It reflects poorly upon the rest of the great Bama Nation fans and supporters.

If he is guilty then I hope in Lee County they can find 12 jurors that will convict. What if some fine citizen from Lee County wearing crimson colored sunglasses, doesn’t think evidence is enough and won’t convict?  Wouldn’t that start a sh-t storm!  8)

It wont go to trial. 

If I am his attorney I delay as long as possible and then take a deal.

I don't think the Le County DA takes a deal, too much pressure to punish this moron. He's an elected official.