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Title: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Jamos on July 27, 2013, 08:57:12 AM
Four members of the 1992 National Championship Alabama football team were on hand Friday as the Birmingham Barons faced the Moble BayBears at Regions Field.

And while baseball was the game being played on the field, a pregame discussion went to a football game that will only be played in the minds of Tide fans.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/tide_quartet_gives_its_1992_na.html#incart_river_default


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: 2Stater on July 27, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
I still think the 2011 Bama team is the best ever team in college football, even with the regular season loss to LSU.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Catch Prothro on July 27, 2013, 01:15:56 PM
I still think the 2011 Bama team is the best ever team in college football, even with the regular season loss to LSU.
I don't know.  Last year's team might have been missing a step on defense, but it was a juggernaut on offense with AJ healthy.   ;D


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: 2Stater on July 27, 2013, 02:15:49 PM
I still think the 2011 Bama team is the best ever team in college football, even with the regular season loss to LSU.
I don't know.  Last year's team might have been missing a step on defense, but it was a juggernaut on offense with AJ healthy.   ;D

The "O" was still pretty good in '11, but the "D" was the best on the planet. Not taking anything away from last year, as they were, indeed, a special unit, but the 2011 team will always be the best, IMO.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 27, 2013, 03:40:04 PM
2013 will top them all.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Catch Prothro on July 27, 2013, 03:54:51 PM
I still think the 2011 Bama team is the best ever team in college football, even with the regular season loss to LSU.
I don't know.  Last year's team might have been missing a step on defense, but it was a juggernaut on offense with AJ healthy.   ;D

The "O" was still pretty good in '11, but the "D" was the best on the planet. Not taking anything away from last year, as they were, indeed, a special unit, but the 2011 team will always be the best, IMO.
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you.  The 2011 D was the best.  And the O had Trent Richardson...  Lacy and Yeldon combined last year can't quite match that talent level, at least not yet.  But the addition of Cooper, and development of other WRs, last year added a vertical component never seen before at Bama, and the O Line was comparable to NFL teams.  If AJ had stayed healthy all season, Bama goes undefeated.  

Maybe Supercoach is right for this years team, the D should be better, and the skill players are mostly back on offense.  The O line might be a question mark, but I have confidence it won't be once the season starts.

I think any of these teams would beat the 1992 squad.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 27, 2013, 04:04:59 PM
I still think the 2011 Bama team is the best ever team in college football, even with the regular season loss to LSU.
I don't know.  Last year's team might have been missing a step on defense, but it was a juggernaut on offense with AJ healthy.   ;D

The "O" was still pretty good in '11, but the "D" was the best on the planet. Not taking anything away from last year, as they were, indeed, a special unit, but the 2011 team will always be the best, IMO.
Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you.  The 2011 D was the best.  And the O had Trent Richardson...  Lacy and Yeldon combined last year can't quite match that talent level, at least not yet.  But the addition of Cooper, and development of other WRs, last year added a vertical component never seen before at Bama, and the O Line was comparable to NFL teams.  If AJ had stayed healthy all season, Bama goes undefeated. 

Maybe Supercoach is right for this years team, the D should be better, and the skill players are mostly back on offense.  The O line might be a question mark, but I have confidence it won't be once the season starts.

I think any of these teams would beat the 1992 squad.

I was wondering about the O-line as well, but CNS said that he was pleased with their progress and the way they are coming together as a unit on ESPN the other day, so I am not concerned any more.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: pmull on July 27, 2013, 05:15:36 PM
If I played on that 92 team I would go to my grave saying we were the best ever. Of course if I played on any Alabama National Championship team I would say we were the best ever.

IMO the 79 team was pretty good. It was a different game with different type athletes back then but they dominated their opponents about as well as any team I can remember.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 27, 2013, 06:37:01 PM
These players are delusional. The 1992 offense was pathetic, with a very poor passing offense & an overall offense that had WAY too many procedure, off-sides, delay of game, & holding penalties. It was pathetic. The following teams were far superior and more balanced:

1934
1966
1977
1978
2011
2012


 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: pmull on July 27, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
These players are delusional. The 1992 offense was pathetic, with a very poor passing offense & an overall offense that had WAY too many procedure, off-sides, delay of game, & holding penalties. It was pathetic. The following teams were far superior and more balanced:

1934
1966
1977
1978
2011
2012


 :popcorn2:

The 92 team was 14-0. HTH


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 27, 2013, 08:43:57 PM
These players are delusional. The 1992 offense was pathetic, with a very poor passing offense & an overall offense that had WAY too many procedure, off-sides, delay of game, & holding penalties. It was pathetic. The following teams were far superior and more balanced:

1934
1966
1977
1978
2011
2012


 :popcorn2:

The 92 team was 14-0. HTH



The 2011 team would have totally shut them down and sent them home crying. We won 14 games with A LOT of close games. Notre Dame was 12-0 before facing us, Texas was 13-0, & LSU was 13-0. LSU was considered one of the best teams ever before the game with us. They had played a difficult schedule, but were whipped by the 2011 team. I love the 1992 team, but I fully remember their many shortcomings on offense.


 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: pmull on July 27, 2013, 09:03:48 PM
These players are delusional. The 1992 offense was pathetic, with a very poor passing offense & an overall offense that had WAY too many procedure, off-sides, delay of game, & holding penalties. It was pathetic. The following teams were far superior and more balanced:

1934
1966
1977
1978
2011
2012


 :popcorn2:

The 92 team was 14-0. HTH



The 2011 team would have totally shut them down and sent them home crying. We won 14 games with A LOT of close games. Notre Dame was 12-0 before facing us, Texas was 13-0, & LSU was 13-0. LSU was considered one of the best teams ever before the game with us. They had played a difficult schedule, but were whipped by the 2011 team. I love the 1992 team, but I fully remember their many shortcomings on offense.


 :popcorn2:

All you can do is line up and beat the team the schedule gives you. I don't think the 1960's teams could play with the 2000's teams but in 1992 they were pretty darn awesome.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: SUPERCOACH on July 27, 2013, 09:49:47 PM
These players are delusional. The 1992 offense was pathetic, with a very poor passing offense & an overall offense that had WAY too many procedure, off-sides, delay of game, & holding penalties. It was pathetic. The following teams were far superior and more balanced:

1934
1966
1977
1978
2011
2012


 :popcorn2:

The 92 team was 14-0. HTH

13-0 actually.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: ricky023 on July 27, 2013, 09:50:42 PM
Well I know one thing if our defense do not make a goal line stand and Paul hit that PSU RB at the time he did, we would be one less NC trophy. RTR!


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 27, 2013, 10:30:32 PM
These players are delusional. The 1992 offense was pathetic, with a very poor passing offense & an overall offense that had WAY too many procedure, off-sides, delay of game, & holding penalties. It was pathetic. The following teams were far superior and more balanced:

1934
1966
1977
1978
2011
2012


 :popcorn2:

The 92 team was 14-0. HTH



The 2011 team would have totally shut them down and sent them home crying. We won 14 games with A LOT of close games. Notre Dame was 12-0 before facing us, Texas was 13-0, & LSU was 13-0. LSU was considered one of the best teams ever before the game with us. They had played a difficult schedule, but were whipped by the 2011 team. I love the 1992 team, but I fully remember their many shortcomings on offense.


 :popcorn2:

All you can do is line up and beat the team the schedule gives you. I don't think the 1960's teams could play with the 2000's teams but in 1992 they were pretty darn awesome.



It's impossible to compare one era to another. You have to look at what they were good at and how they played against other teams. The 1966 team was quick & fast, had a great passing attack and a super defense. Sounds like a great formula for any era. The 1934 team would also fit that description.


 :clap:




Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Jamos on July 28, 2013, 06:08:11 AM
Comparing is nothing but opinions of each but it can make for good conversation. There's no way to say who is the better unless they played each other and that will never happen. Some of you amaze me with your memories of things that happened in each of those years though, good stuff. :clap:


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: pmull on July 28, 2013, 07:57:56 AM
Just for fun I looked back on the 1979 team record and stats to see if my memory of how dominate they were is correct. The team was 12-0 and had one close call, a 3-0 win over LSU at Baton Rouge. They beat everyone else pretty good. The defense was awesome. They had 5 shutouts and only allowed two teams to score double digits. They gave up 67 points the entire season for a 5.6 avg. They are the last team in the NCAA to allow fewer than 100 points in a season. For comparison the 92 team gave up 122 (9.2 avg) and 2011 gave up 106 (8.2 avg).

The offense was good too. They scored 30 or more points seven times and averaged 32 points per game.

My friend and high school teammate, Steve Whitman, was a captain along with Don McNeal of that team.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 28, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
Just for fun I looked back on the 1979 team record and stats to see if my memory of how dominate they were is correct. The team was 12-0 and had one close call, a 3-0 win over LSU at Baton Rouge. They beat everyone else pretty good. The defense was awesome. They had 5 shutouts and only allowed two teams to score double digits. They gave up 67 points the entire season for a 5.6 avg. They are the last team in the NCAA to allow fewer than 100 points in a season. For comparison the 92 team gave up 122 (9.2 avg) and 2011 gave up 106 (8.2 avg).

The offense was good too. They scored 30 or more points seven times and averaged 32 points per game.

My friend and high school teammate, Steve Whitman, was a captain along with Don McNeal of that team.



The 1979 team was great, but we had a soft schedule. In 1977 & 1978 we had played Nebraska & USC each year. Personally, I have always thought the 1977 & 1978 teams superior to the 1979 team.

 :dog:


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Jamos on July 28, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
 
Just for fun I looked back on the 1979 team record and stats to see if my memory of how dominate they were is correct. The team was 12-0 and had one close call, a 3-0 win over LSU at Baton Rouge. They beat everyone else pretty good. The defense was awesome. They had 5 shutouts and only allowed two teams to score double digits. They gave up 67 points the entire season for a 5.6 avg. They are the last team in the NCAA to allow fewer than 100 points in a season. For comparison the 92 team gave up 122 (9.2 avg) and 2011 gave up 106 (8.2 avg).

The offense was good too. They scored 30 or more points seven times and averaged 32 points per game.

My friend and high school teammate, Steve Whitman, was a captain along with Don McNeal of that team.

Whitman was a pretty tough dude. Does he live in the Centerville area now?


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: pmull on July 28, 2013, 10:26:43 AM
Just for fun I looked back on the 1979 team record and stats to see if my memory of how dominate they were is correct. The team was 12-0 and had one close call, a 3-0 win over LSU at Baton Rouge. They beat everyone else pretty good. The defense was awesome. They had 5 shutouts and only allowed two teams to score double digits. They gave up 67 points the entire season for a 5.6 avg. They are the last team in the NCAA to allow fewer than 100 points in a season. For comparison the 92 team gave up 122 (9.2 avg) and 2011 gave up 106 (8.2 avg).

The offense was good too. They scored 30 or more points seven times and averaged 32 points per game.

My friend and high school teammate, Steve Whitman, was a captain along with Don McNeal of that team.



The 1979 team was great, but we had a soft schedule. In 1977 & 1978 we had played Nebraska & USC each year. Personally, I have always thought the 1977 & 1978 teams superior to the 1979 team.

 :dog:

It was a soft schedule. It shows how things change. We played Ga Tech, Baylor, Va Tech and Miami in non conference play and they were all terrible. We only played three teams that year that were ranked in the final poll.

Those 77 and 78 were loaded. Jeff Rutledge and I were friends. We grew up playing little sports together. He went to Banks HS which was our rival. Jeff was a great athlete. If we had run a passing attack his name would be all over the record books. Three guys I played HS ball with were on those teams. Phil Allman, Alan Crumbley and Steve Whitman.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: Marshal Dillon on July 28, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
Just for fun I looked back on the 1979 team record and stats to see if my memory of how dominate they were is correct. The team was 12-0 and had one close call, a 3-0 win over LSU at Baton Rouge. They beat everyone else pretty good. The defense was awesome. They had 5 shutouts and only allowed two teams to score double digits. They gave up 67 points the entire season for a 5.6 avg. They are the last team in the NCAA to allow fewer than 100 points in a season. For comparison the 92 team gave up 122 (9.2 avg) and 2011 gave up 106 (8.2 avg).

The offense was good too. They scored 30 or more points seven times and averaged 32 points per game.

My friend and high school teammate, Steve Whitman, was a captain along with Don McNeal of that team.



The 1979 team was great, but we had a soft schedule. In 1977 & 1978 we had played Nebraska & USC each year. Personally, I have always thought the 1977 & 1978 teams superior to the 1979 team.

 :dog:

It was a soft schedule. It shows how things change. We played Ga Tech, Baylor, Va Tech and Miami in non conference play and they were all terrible. We only played three teams that year that were ranked in the final poll.

Those 77 and 78 were loaded. Jeff Rutledge and I were friends. We grew up playing little sports together. He went to Banks HS which was our rival. Jeff was a great athlete. If we had run a passing attack his name would be all over the record books. Three guys I played HS ball with were on those teams. Phil Allman, Alan Crumbley and Steve Whitman.


Yep, we had Ozzie on the 1977 team along with seniors Bob Cryder, Johnnie Davis, & Terry Jones.  This team was so deep with juniors & sophomores it was incredible.


 :clap:

















Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: pmull on July 28, 2013, 04:46:40 PM
Just for fun I looked back on the 1979 team record and stats to see if my memory of how dominate they were is correct. The team was 12-0 and had one close call, a 3-0 win over LSU at Baton Rouge. They beat everyone else pretty good. The defense was awesome. They had 5 shutouts and only allowed two teams to score double digits. They gave up 67 points the entire season for a 5.6 avg. They are the last team in the NCAA to allow fewer than 100 points in a season. For comparison the 92 team gave up 122 (9.2 avg) and 2011 gave up 106 (8.2 avg).

The offense was good too. They scored 30 or more points seven times and averaged 32 points per game.

My friend and high school teammate, Steve Whitman, was a captain along with Don McNeal of that team.



The 1979 team was great, but we had a soft schedule. In 1977 & 1978 we had played Nebraska & USC each year. Personally, I have always thought the 1977 & 1978 teams superior to the 1979 team.

 :dog:

It was a soft schedule. It shows how things change. We played Ga Tech, Baylor, Va Tech and Miami in non conference play and they were all terrible. We only played three teams that year that were ranked in the final poll.

Those 77 and 78 were loaded. Jeff Rutledge and I were friends. We grew up playing little sports together. He went to Banks HS which was our rival. Jeff was a great athlete. If we had run a passing attack his name would be all over the record books. Three guys I played HS ball with were on those teams. Phil Allman, Alan Crumbley and Steve Whitman.


Yep, we had Ozzie on the 1977 team along with seniors Bob Cryder, Johnnie Davis, & Terry Jones.  This team was so deep with juniors & sophomores it was incredible.


 :clap:

You could keep on naming great players from the 77, 78 & 79 teams. Two more of my favorites were Tony Nathan and Dwight Stephenson.


Title: Re: Tide quartet gives its 1992 NC team the edge over Nick Saban's title squads
Post by: 2Stater on July 30, 2013, 01:53:44 PM
Just for fun I looked back on the 1979 team record and stats to see if my memory of how dominate they were is correct. The team was 12-0 and had one close call, a 3-0 win over LSU at Baton Rouge. They beat everyone else pretty good. The defense was awesome. They had 5 shutouts and only allowed two teams to score double digits. They gave up 67 points the entire season for a 5.6 avg. They are the last team in the NCAA to allow fewer than 100 points in a season. For comparison the 92 team gave up 122 (9.2 avg) and 2011 gave up 106 (8.2 avg).

The offense was good too. They scored 30 or more points seven times and averaged 32 points per game.

My friend and high school teammate, Steve Whitman, was a captain along with Don McNeal of that team.

Pmull, that 3-0 LSU game was played in a game-long driving rain storm. People were slipping & sliding all over the pacle. I think that was the only reason that game was close.