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Title: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on September 30, 2012, 11:54:23 AM
First, let me send congrats to the Bama players and coaches on the win. They may have won the game, but there is still a lot of work to do.
 
Offense:  The offense had 325 yards of total offense.  They gave up 8 negative plays.  A couple of these were passes behind the LOS, most were where the D hit the running back behind the LOS.  It looked like the Rebels had the snap count down a few times and hit the LOS running. The glorified Bama offense had a total of 26 total yards in the 3rd quarter by my calculations.  There were 2 three and outs which accounted for -8 yards. Finally, they put together a drive that went into the 4th quarter which allowed them to have positive yards in the quarter.  They wasted great field position and had to settle for field goals.  The O had drives start on their own 40, 41 and 42 (because of an int) and got two FG’s and a TD.  They had drives starting on the 44 and 36 (another int) going in and came up a FG and TD.  Think about this, if you take away the 2 TD’s that came off of the offense set up by the int’s and the kick off return for the TD, then the offense really came up with 12 points.  This offense, being so hyped, needs to improve.  I have not seen the ability to really just take over a game since Mich. 

QB:   AJ was efficient.  He missed on a throw to Calloway.  The 2nd TD to Cooper, Cooper saved his butt.  This should have been broken up or intercepted.  The throw that was almost picked in the end zone need to be zipped, not lofted.  I will say if Cooper had continued his route inside he would have been wide open for a TD.

RB:  They ran hard and they were hit hard and quickly by the Rebel D. 

REC:  Cooper has emerged as a target that D’s will have to account for.  He, as I stated above, saved AJ on the TD where he went over the defender.  I still question The rec’s ability to help a scrambling QB. 

OL:  Stop reading your headlines.  You have a lot of improving to do.  Jones and Steen got blown up a few times.  The OL did not work together well on some combo blocks and it did not allow the other player to get to where he needed to be.  For instance, the DL was slanting and Jones did not chip the guy Steen was expected to block and Steen was beat inside.  The sad part here is they show signs of being the “BEST OL in the Country”, now it is time to go out and prove it.  They were beat off the line many times which is horrible since they are the ones who know the snap count.  I have not been impressed the last couple of games. 

Defense:   They gave up 218 total yards.  They had 11 negative plays which included 3 picks.  They also had 6 three and outs or less. There were numerous missed tackles.  By my count there were at least 4 on the one scramble play that ended up gaining 1 yard.  They did have 2 ints that led to points, TD’s.  It seemed like they played hesitant, or tired.  They just didn’t seem to be getting to the football.  I really don’ think I saw but 1 big hit by the D.   The Rebels did put together two 75 yard touchdown drives. 
   
DL:  They did ok here.  Numerous players made plays.  Pagan was in on a lot of plays.  No one else really stood out, but this is the way of the D.   They did allow contain to be broken a couple of times.   I did notice Williams dropping in a zone blitz look once. 

LB:  They made some plays, but again nothing really stood out.  They did seem to be late or take bad angles at times when the ball was run outside.  I am not sure about the penalty on Johnson for interference, not even sure the ball was catchable. 

DB:  They were in position most of the day as they came up with 3 ints.  They also knocked each other off of a couple of ints.  They are going to have to do a better job fighting thru the wide rec screen blocks.  They also took some bad angles on a couple of plays.
 
Penalties:  Nothing of real note here.  The only thing I will say is it looked like the Rebels got away with a hold on their first offensive play of the game.   

Special teams:   The kickoff return provided one of the best hits of the night by Perry. 

Finally:  Bama has not looked like the number one team in the country, to me, the last couple of games.  The OL has got to do a better job.  The offense as a whole has to do a better job.

Please feel free to comment.

Good Luck and Roll Tide Roll 
14 and counting


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: Chechem on September 30, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
Thanks, HSC.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: XBAMA on September 30, 2012, 12:03:41 PM
good stuff Coach ...

yeah , take away the  Christion Jones kickoff return and the
Milliner interception for a easy score , we stunk the place up
for real , hats off to the OM staff for bringing it like they did .


welcome back Cat  :wave:


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 30, 2012, 12:38:12 PM
Good stuff Coach.  I mentioned in another thread about AJ throwing into coverage.  He got away with one there, and the worst part is that it ending up being a touchdown.  This will only reinforce in his mind that he made a good play even though it was a very poor decision to throw that pass.  Hopefully he will see how lucky he was during film study today.  I'm sure it will be pointed out, but he may just ignore the coaches and think to himself that he made the right call since it was a TD.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: Merk on September 30, 2012, 01:08:33 PM
Coach, what is your take on the OL's lack of protection on a run play and them doing a pretty good job on pass protection. Did they just get out quicked on the run plays??


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on September 30, 2012, 01:28:52 PM
Coach, what is your take on the OL's lack of protection on a run play and them doing a pretty good job on pass protection. Did they just get out quicked on the run plays??

I think it is a combination of things.  One, I am not sure the O is changing up the snap count enough.  Two, I think they are trying to get to the second stage of their block instead of taking care of the beginning.  For instance, I saw, what I think, should have been a combo block between Jones and Steen.  Jones does not help and Steen's man crosses his face and beats him.  It could be stepping with he wrong foot.  I also don't think they are coming off the ball hard enough at times.  I saw Jone get blown at least once last night.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on September 30, 2012, 01:33:03 PM
One note I left off and was going to put in the Finally section.  Where is the emotion?  I only saw it a couple of times last night.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 30, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
I'm watching the replay right now.  Ole Miss is fired up and hitting hard.  Our guys look bored.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: Merk on September 30, 2012, 01:51:02 PM
Coach, what is your take on the OL's lack of protection on a run play and them doing a pretty good job on pass protection. Did they just get out quicked on the run plays??

I think it is a combination of things.  One, I am not sure the O is changing up the snap count enough.  Two, I think they are trying to get to the second stage of their block instead of taking care of the beginning.  For instance, I saw, what I think, should have been a combo block between Jones and Steen.  Jones does not help and Steen's man crosses his face and beats him.  It could be stepping with he wrong foot.  I also don't think they are coming off the ball hard enough at times.  I saw Jone get blown at least once last night.


Thanks, Coach!  #+


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: ricky023 on September 30, 2012, 02:14:59 PM
It did seem to be a boring game. To much Press has swelled some heads but a few days of 1 on 1 and 2 on 1, should help them out. I mean till their noses are bloodied. That might wake them up. One thing for sure a RB is hit 3 yds behind the LOS and his feet in the air over his head will not gain much yards. Hey, see I just figured it out. RTR!


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: Old Tider on September 30, 2012, 02:25:02 PM
Anybody think we'll see more no-huddle opponents after this demonstration?


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 30, 2012, 02:27:08 PM
Anybody think we'll see more no-huddle opponents after this demonstration?

Oregon.  :)


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: ricky023 on September 30, 2012, 02:36:01 PM
Maybe LSU will try something but you got thr right idea. We got tired on Defense Sat. Nite. RTR!


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: bama87 on September 30, 2012, 02:52:35 PM
I agree. We were uninspired football and won by 19. That said, I think CNS will finally get their attention. It seems the OL has either tipped plays or stayed with the same snap count. I thought the DBS played well, but they need to do better fighting off blocks.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: BAMAWV on September 30, 2012, 03:00:53 PM
Thanks as always, HSC!

The first possession, second series of downs was disastrous. DeAndrew White was injured. Kevin Norwood had a ball knocked loose on a big hit. Then Christion Jones got leveled. PUNT. It seemed to set the tone for some time (til the KO return for TD).


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: cbbama99 on September 30, 2012, 03:53:34 PM
Great analysis as always, HSC. Agreed, the guys did not play like the no. 1 team. Completely uninspired performance. Thankfully it did not turn into the "I-told-you-so" game CNS warned about this past week. Hopefully the staff will be getting some minds right over the next two weeks before heading up to Mizzou.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: lstephen on September 30, 2012, 05:25:47 PM
Thanks, coach.  You know how to say what we all saw.  Hope we get some injured guys back for Mizzou!  ROLL TIDE!!!  #+


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: 2Stater on September 30, 2012, 05:34:04 PM
Another great analysis, Coach. One other thing I noticed while being there at the game was that AJ almost always opted for the short pass, when he had receivers wide open down field on several plays. I know CNS wants to play as vanilla as he can  against lesser opponents, but it made them look bad much of the time last night.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on September 30, 2012, 07:55:37 PM
Another great analysis, Coach. One other thing I noticed while being there at the game was that AJ almost always opted for the short pass, when he had receivers wide open down field on several plays. I know CNS wants to play as vanilla as he can  against lesser opponents, but it made them look bad much of the time last night.

Thanks for sharing that.  I always wonder if other rec's are open.  The view on tv just doesn't let me see the big picture.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: XBAMA on September 30, 2012, 09:57:07 PM
AJ almost always opted for the short pass, when he had receivers wide open down field on several plays.

I thought a couple of times that one of our receivers was going
to get decapitated on those plays too ...
they would make the catch and the OM player would swat them down
like a bug , then to the turf they went .

I saw a couple of plays where one of our guys were open a
little deeper down the field  that he could have hit instead .
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/source/espn3/id/560557/size/condensed/

but like ya'll said , they have a plan , so short it is .
they also make the big bucks for making it ...

AJ has already got one spanking in BDS from CNS , and it was
against a Ms. team ... I'm sure that was enough for him ...  :lol2:



Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: BAMAWV on October 01, 2012, 06:10:20 AM
AJ almost always opted for the short pass, when he had receivers wide open down field on several plays.

I thought a couple of times that one of our receivers was going
to get decapitated on those plays too ...
they would make the catch and the OM player would swat them down
like a bug , then to the turf they went .

I saw a couple of plays where one of our guys were open a
little deeper down the field  that he could have hit instead .
http://espn.go.com/watchespn/player/_/source/espn3/id/560557/size/condensed/

but like ya'll said , they have a plan , so short it is .
they also make the big bucks for making it ...

AJ has already got one spanking in BDS from CNS , and it was
against a Ms. team ... I'm sure that was enough for him ...  :lol2:


:eye roll: Maybe he hasn't the time to go far into his progression. HTH


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: SeniorTSM on October 01, 2012, 07:24:27 AM
Hey hscoach,

What do you think of the play calling?  It seems Bama is sticking with only a hand full of plays.

I also saw very little play action until late in the game. just cant see why bama dont do that more.

I HATE the WR screens, I know they can break sometimes for long gains, but I would say 80% of the time they are a 1 yrd gain or a close int chance for the D.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on October 01, 2012, 01:31:45 PM
Hey hscoach,

What do you think of the play calling?  It seems Bama is sticking with only a hand full of plays.

I also saw very little play action until late in the game. just cant see why bama dont do that more.

I HATE the WR screens, I know they can break sometimes for long gains, but I would say 80% of the time they are a 1 yrd gain or a close int chance for the D.

I also think they are holding back.  I am a huge fan of play action with Bama being such a running team.  I can't remember the stats, but AJ had a big day a while back and his completions were very high when using play action.  I saw very little boot the other day, something Bama had used more in the games before.  I will say, I think the rec's will agree, they were ready for the crossing routes.  It looked like OM played a lot of zone which allowed them to sit on these.  I don't mind WR screens if you have a better athlete on theirs.  Also, I hate them when the throw is about 20+ yards.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on October 01, 2012, 01:33:17 PM
I should have added, there are a couple of philosophies.  One you don't show things so the next team can't work on them.  Two, you show a lot so the team have to decide what they are going to work on.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: ricky023 on October 01, 2012, 01:38:16 PM
Hey hscoach, I thank you for your assessment. I do however think those short passes over the middle are going to get our WR's killed. OM  showed others how to tear that middle up with hard hits. You know being out here and a fan is like guessing the wind I have no way of knowing where we are going just they I am afraid I see some weaknesses so others can too. JMHO. RTR!


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on October 01, 2012, 03:23:44 PM
I don't mind the crossing routes, especially in man coverage.  I can't see on tv, but I think there needs to be a high low for zone when the crossing routes are run.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: bama87 on October 01, 2012, 05:05:03 PM
I would like some more stick routes. Sometimes the crossing routes take forever to clear. The SS or LB get in the way and the receiver has to clear them.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 01, 2012, 06:40:47 PM
I really enjoy the weekly game notes and the discussion that it creates.  I'm in the process of working on something that will be very helpful for these discussions.  I have all of the games from the last 2 years on my DVR and I have been copying them onto my computer.  I have taken the Ole Miss game and have been cutting it up into small clips of each play.  I plan to load every play of the game up onto youtube and then create a new board with a topic for each play.  Then we can have our own little film study room.  I am about half way through the first quarter and will probably go ahead and post the 1st quarter when I am done in a little while.  If this gets as much interest as I think it will, I plan to build a specialized section of the site that will be organized so that we can easily pull up any play from any game whenever we want and comment on it.  For now though I will just use a plain old message board format just to get things going to see if it is going to be worth the effort.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: cbbama99 on October 01, 2012, 06:48:41 PM
I really enjoy the weekly game notes and the discussion that it creates.  I'm in the process of working on something that will be very helpful for these discussions.  I have all of the games from the last 2 years on my DVR and I have been copying them onto my computer.  I have taken the Ole Miss game and have been cutting it up into small clips of each play.  I plan to load every play of the game up onto youtube and then create a new board with a topic for each play.  Then we can have our own little film study room.  I am about half way through the first quarter and will probably go ahead and post the 1st quarter when I am done in a little while.  If this gets as much interest as I think it will, I plan to build a specialized section of the site that will be organized so that we can easily pull up any play from any game whenever we want and comment on it.  For now though I will just use a plain old message board format just to get things going to see if it is going to be worth the effort.

Sounds great, SC. I am continuously amazed and appreciative of all the efforts you go through on here to add to the game experience.  #+


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: hscoach on October 01, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
I really enjoy the weekly game notes and the discussion that it creates.  I'm in the process of working on something that will be very helpful for these discussions.  I have all of the games from the last 2 years on my DVR and I have been copying them onto my computer.  I have taken the Ole Miss game and have been cutting it up into small clips of each play.  I plan to load every play of the game up onto youtube and then create a new board with a topic for each play.  Then we can have our own little film study room.  I am about half way through the first quarter and will probably go ahead and post the 1st quarter when I am done in a little while.  If this gets as much interest as I think it will, I plan to build a specialized section of the site that will be organized so that we can easily pull up any play from any game whenever we want and comment on it.  For now though I will just use a plain old message board format just to get things going to see if it is going to be worth the effort.

Sounds good and also sounds like a lot of work.  It would be fun to look at a clip with others and see what they see. 

Thanks again to all that enjoy the notes and keep the discussions going.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: SUPERCOACH on October 01, 2012, 06:58:42 PM
I just created the board.  It is called film room.  Right now you need 50 posts to see it.  I may change that later once I have everything set up the way I want.  I just uploaded the first play and posted it.  I have 19 plays ready so I am going to start posting them, then I will add each new play as I cut it from the game film.


Title: Re: Game notes: OM vs Bama
Post by: Sqwig on October 01, 2012, 09:37:53 PM
Great idea. Look forward to the discussion.