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Title: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: lstephen on November 25, 2013, 07:54:36 PM
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303281504579220393805048908


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: 2Stater on November 25, 2013, 08:05:33 PM
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"You come to a crossroads and the expectations get so great, people get spoiled by success and there gets to be a lack of appreciation," Terry Saban said in an interview last week. "We're kind of there now."

But....but....but, we appreciate the heck out of y'all.  :-*


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: Marshal Dillon on November 25, 2013, 09:13:55 PM
Geez, what more can they want? Saban has a statue, a large paycheck, beautiful home, the unending adulation of the fans, total control the football program, and the best program & facilities in college football. What else, named King of Alabama, have his image on Mount Ruhmore? Sheesh.



 :facepalm:


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: 2Stater on November 25, 2013, 09:20:31 PM
Before we start taking this article at face value, let's hear what Miss Terry has to say about it. If any of you have ever read an article, newspaper or otherwise, where you were quoted, and it was word for word correct, then you are in the minority. I've been quoted a few times in newspapers and their accuracy was a little off on all but one. That one was an out and out lie. The words were fabricated by the reporter.

If there is any meat to this at all, I'm sure it was targeted at the vanishing attendance in the 2nd half of games. I don't think it's anything more than that.


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: Marshal Dillon on November 25, 2013, 09:31:29 PM
Before we start taking this article at face value, let's hear what Miss Terry has to say about it. If any of you have ever read an article, newspaper or otherwise, where you were quoted, and it was word for word correct, then you are in the minority. I've been quoted a few times in newspapers and their accuracy was a little off on all but one. That one was an out and out lie. The words were fabricated by the reporter.

If there is any meat to this at all, I'm sure it was targeted at the vanishing attendance in the 2nd half of games. I don't think it's anything more than that.



You make a good point, so I will hold my fire and if I goofed, I will admit it.


 ;)


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: McBaman on November 25, 2013, 11:43:10 PM
I gotta think about this one.  It's a little shocking to hear Ms. Terry say they feel underappreciated, or words to that effect.  This alum could not be more thankful for the success and prestige CNS has brought to our alma mater.  I think all of us know this degree of success doesn't happen without a TON on hard work and sacrifice, and that it never stops.

But if this story is an accurate account of what she said and meant, then somehow we need to find out what the missing piece is, and do something about it.  Maybe they just need to get a few thousand 'thank you' cards in the mail.  If so, I'll certainly send one.


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: cbbama99 on November 26, 2013, 06:35:13 AM
I've got a feeling that 2 is right on this one, that it seems most likely that the comments were targeted at those leaving games early. My guess it is CNS' constant striving for perfection that keeps him going, even with all the championships. We have all heard numerous times that Ms. Terry was VERY happy in Tuscaloosa, and I have no reason to doubt those comments.


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: Jamos on November 26, 2013, 07:27:06 AM
I agree with Ms. Terry concerning the appreciation that the team is getting now, the appreciation for their accomplishments seems to have diminished since this time last year.

It wasn't that long ago the Bama fan base was moaning and groaning about ever getting another coach that could win games as Bear Bryant did when he was coaching Bama. Well, they did go and hire a coach that has done this very thing but supporting the team doesn't seem to be a factor to the fans anymore in this historic time of Bama football.

CNS has all but begged for better fan support, the students especially, and that has had some affect but not that much. The players react to the fans and when they look up into the stands and see empty seats they react to this very thing and if they lose the game it is always the players fault. CNS has stated many times that the fanbase is a very big part of this team. The team loves to hear the roar of the crowd all the way to the end of the game, not up to halftime. This past Saturday was Senior Day and when the game ended there was still a decent amount of fans in the stadium but the student section was empty, the band was sitting all by themselves. How did that make the seniors feel?

I feel a lot like the Sabans do, maybe the Bama nation doesn't appreciate all the accomplishments since their coming to the U of A. It shouldn't matter who the team is playing, each game is a part of their schedule and should be supported as the next challenge in winning another championship. It is very tough for a coaching staff to keep the players motivated and when they come out of the dressing room to a half full stadium, it only makes the coaching job that much harder. Almost every week there are upsets that ruin a team's season and many of the upsets are from games like the Bama and Chattanooga game, just ask Florida.

We as fans have a lot lot to be thankful for but I feel the word "entitlement" has become very apparent with a lot of the fan base especially the students, the players and coaches deserve better for what they have given us.





Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: jtide on November 26, 2013, 08:22:18 AM
As a life-long Bama fan, those comments offend me, IF she has been quoted accurately.  Those comments are painting with a broad brush.  Student attendance at games and appreciation are not the same thing.  There are thousands of Bama fans that would love to have the seats and the money to drive to Tuscaloosa and spend the day at a game.  I don't think anyone is "spoiled".  I'm loving every minute of this ride!  I don't think there is a coach in the country that has more respect and support from their school and fan base than coach Saban.


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: Chechem on November 26, 2013, 08:32:10 AM
 :tinfoil:

Not even worth a comment.


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: bama57 on November 26, 2013, 08:40:28 AM
"We're staying," she said. "We're not going anywhere."


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: pmull on November 26, 2013, 09:10:12 AM
The WSJ puts Miss Terry's comment in the article trying to stir up a controversy. It appears to be working. However, the main intent of the article is to say "We're staying", "We're not going anywhere" and "This is where we will end our career".


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: Chechem on November 26, 2013, 09:13:13 AM
The WSJ puts Miss Terry's comment in the article trying to stir up a controversy. It appears to be working. However, the main intent of the article is to say "We're staying", "We're not going anywhere" and "This is where we will end our career".

 :-X


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: 2Stater on November 26, 2013, 10:17:47 AM
I don't know if the Sabans ever read any of these message boards, but the controversy that this has stirred up is bringing out a lot of negative Nellies on some of the other forums. I'm sure that is what the writer had in mind with our fan base, and he is succeeding.

Those of us who have been supporting CNS all along, and we are the rule rather than the exception. just need to keep on supporting him. Every fan base has the ignorant and the non-caring and we are no exception. I think that if that is truly what she said, that it was more of an inference of human nature rather than a slam.


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: ricky023 on November 26, 2013, 10:38:44 AM
I answered on another post about this also. We all know as long as there is posterity in the University of Alabama camp, there will be Media trying to destroy the smoothness. I pray for our winners which is all of us, and I try and pray more for the losers because all that hate does nothing except cost them their lives. Bitterness is sad even when it is on the other side. lol. RTR!


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: Marshal Dillon on November 26, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
I don't know if the Sabans ever read any of these message boards, but the controversy that this has stirred up is bringing out a lot of negative Nellies on some of the other forums. I'm sure that is what the writer had in mind with our fan base, and he is succeeding.

Those of us who have been supporting CNS all along, and we are the rule rather than the exception. just need to keep on supporting him. Every fan base has the ignorant and the non-caring and we are no exception. I think that if that is truly what she said, that it was more of an inference of human nature rather than a slam.




Oh goodie, a conspiracy theory. Let me see, who could be behind this? McGregor, Chiznik, Pat Dye, the CIA?


 :tinfoil:





Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: N.AL-Tider on November 26, 2013, 01:06:01 PM
I don't know if the Sabans ever read any of these message boards, but the controversy that this has stirred up is bringing out a lot of negative Nellies on some of the other forums. I'm sure that is what the writer had in mind with our fan base, and he is succeeding.

Those of us who have been supporting CNS all along, and we are the rule rather than the exception. just need to keep on supporting him. Every fan base has the ignorant and the non-caring and we are no exception. I think that if that is truly what she said, that it was more of an inference of human nature rather than a slam.




Oh goodie, a conspiracy theory. Let me see, who could be behind this? McGregor, Chiznik, Pat Dye, the CIA?


 :tinfoil:

I think someone is getting close to IDing the "Bagman" so he is pushing this agenda to throw them off his/her trail...  ;)


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: 2Stater on November 26, 2013, 01:43:03 PM
A bit of a leap to call it a conspiracy theory.  :lol2:

All writers have a target they want to get a rise out of. Guess who her target is?

 :wave:


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: Marshal Dillon on November 26, 2013, 02:42:26 PM
A bit of a leap to call it a conspiracy theory.  :lol2:

All writers have a target they want to get a rise out of. Guess who her target is?

 :wave:



She was on Finebaum and she did not sound sinister or have her own agenda. Her normal beat is Finance, especially Acqusitions with the WSJ. She was at Michigan State when Saban was a coach. She found Terry Saban to be refreshing and so open & honest.

 :dog:




Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: 2Stater on November 26, 2013, 02:58:19 PM
A bit of a leap to call it a conspiracy theory.  :lol2:

All writers have a target they want to get a rise out of. Guess who her target is?

 :wave:



She was on Finebaum and she did not sound sinister or have her own agenda. Her normal beat is Finance, especially Acqusitions with the WSJ. She was at Michigan State when Saban was a coach. She found Terry Saban to be refreshing and so open & honest.

 :dog:




Yeah, I looked it up and found the same thing. I think I'll just take it all with a grain of salt.I do, however, think the Sabans will get an extraordinary amount of Christmas cards this year.
 :D


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: cbbama99 on November 26, 2013, 05:21:30 PM
A bit of a leap to call it a conspiracy theory.  :lol2:

All writers have a target they want to get a rise out of. Guess who her target is?

 :wave:



She was on Finebaum and she did not sound sinister or have her own agenda. Her normal beat is Finance, especially Acqusitions with the WSJ. She was at Michigan State when Saban was a coach. She found Terry Saban to be refreshing and so open & honest.

 :dog:




Yeah, I looked it up and found the same thing. I think I'll just take it all with a grain of salt.I do, however, think the Sabans will get an extraordinary amount of Christmas cards this year.
 :D

So, fruit cake is out of the question?  :-\


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: 2Stater on November 26, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
A bit of a leap to call it a conspiracy theory.  :lol2:

All writers have a target they want to get a rise out of. Guess who her target is?

 :wave:



She was on Finebaum and she did not sound sinister or have her own agenda. Her normal beat is Finance, especially Acqusitions with the WSJ. She was at Michigan State when Saban was a coach. She found Terry Saban to be refreshing and so open & honest.

 :dog:




Yeah, I looked it up and found the same thing. I think I'll just take it all with a grain of salt.I do, however, think the Sabans will get an extraordinary amount of Christmas cards this year.
 :D

So, fruit cake is out of the question?  :-\

We want them to feel appreciated, CB. Not insulted.  :lol2:


Title: Re: Wall Street Journal Terry Saban Interview
Post by: XBAMA on November 26, 2013, 08:13:41 PM
context , as in taken out of ?  :dunno:

read the whole thing and it's not like the media people are making it out to be
the lack of appreciation thing has been on sports radio all day , I call BS ...

these media people make me sick with their crap  :wall:

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As for the Texas job, Nick has said publicly that he plans to end his career at Alabama—a view that echoes his wife's comments. Terry said that years ago, rebuilding a football program used to be "even more fun than winning" but that it has lost its appeal as the couple has aged (Nick is 62 and Terry is 61). Now that there's less to prove, she said, "I say to Nick, 'Why are we doing this? It's not to win. You tell your players all the time, it's not about winning it's about the process. This is about shaping the lives of young men.'"

She noted that this is the longest they've stayed anywhere—by two years—and that they feel like members of the community. Their children, Kristen and Nicholas, both graduated from Alabama. "We feel more like it's home, like we are a part of the community and pulling up stakes again would be difficult."

"We are trying to educate ourselves, to change ourselves," Terry said. "We can't change expectations or change lack of appreciation. We have to change our mind-set. We have decided: this is where we are going to end our career."