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Title: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: 2Stater on December 02, 2015, 04:05:17 PM
14 dead & 14 injured, according to news conference by Chief of Police. Prayers to the victims and families.  :pray:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/us/san-bernardino-shooting/


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: ricky023 on December 02, 2015, 04:28:08 PM
Prayers to all those involved. Today we have the media and we see more pain and death than ever before in this country. Welcome to a melting pot. RTR!


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Merk on December 03, 2015, 05:43:02 PM
I've thought about getting my CCW for a while now. With this latest round of violence, I just may go ahead a get it done. Anymore, you just never know when it could make the difference between living and dying.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: 2Stater on December 03, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
I've thought about getting my CCW for a while now. With this latest round of violence, I just may go ahead a get it done. Anymore, you just never know when it could make the difference between living and dying.

I'm with you, Merk. This has gotten unbelievable!  :-\


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 03, 2015, 06:36:22 PM
I've thought about getting my CCW for a while now. With this latest round of violence, I just may go ahead a get it done. Anymore, you just never know when it could make the difference between living and dying.

After years of thinking about it, I finally got mine when the sherif's office opened the Monday after the Paris attack.  By that Friday I had purchased a pistol I can carry in my pocket.  I have been to the firing range a couple of times now and will probably go about once a week until I am confident I can hit what I am aiming at.

Body shots are easy and I don't miss on those.  But I am strictly practicing head shots now, the idea being that the guy could be wearing a suicide vest.  I don't want him laying on the ground bleeding to death for several minutes with the ability to set off his vest or continue shooting a few more rounds.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: 2Stater on December 03, 2015, 09:37:32 PM
I've thought about getting my CCW for a while now. With this latest round of violence, I just may go ahead a get it done. Anymore, you just never know when it could make the difference between living and dying.

After years of thinking about it, I finally got mine when the sherif's office opened the Monday after the Paris attack.  By that Friday I had purchased a pistol I can carry in my pocket.  I have been to the firing range a couple of times now and will probably go about once a week until I am confident I can hit what I am aiming at.

Body shots are easy and I don't miss on those.  But I am strictly practicing head shots now, the idea being that the guy could be wearing a suicide vest.  I don't want him laying on the ground bleeding to death for several minutes with the ability to set off his vest or continue shooting a few more rounds.

We are no longer safe in our every day lives. We must protect ourselves and our families from the radical idiots that continually make their way here. Whether it's Al Quaeda or ISIS, or some crazy idealist or mentally challenged militant, I've never been as concerned about this as I am now. The better we are armed, the better the odds, that what happened in San Bernadino, Sandy Hook, Ft Hood, etc, will not happen to those of us who are armed and prepared.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Old Tider on December 03, 2015, 11:05:40 PM
I've thought about getting my CCW for a while now. With this latest round of violence, I just may go ahead a get it done. Anymore, you just never know when it could make the difference between living and dying.

After years of thinking about it, I finally got mine when the sherif's office opened the Monday after the Paris attack.  By that Friday I had purchased a pistol I can carry in my pocket.  I have been to the firing range a couple of times now and will probably go about once a week until I am confident I can hit what I am aiming at.

Body shots are easy and I don't miss on those.  But I am strictly practicing head shots now, the idea being that the guy could be wearing a suicide vest.  I don't want him laying on the ground bleeding to death for several minutes with the ability to set off his vest or continue shooting a few more rounds.

We are no longer safe in our every day lives. We must protect ourselves and our families from the radical idiots that continually make their way here. Whether it's Al Quaeda or ISIS, or some crazy idealist or mentally challenged militant, I've never been as concerned about this as I am now. The better we are armed, the better the odds, that what happened in San Bernadino, Sandy Hook, Ft Hood, etc, will not happen to those of us who are armed and prepared.

Even more guns.   :o


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 04, 2015, 05:12:20 AM

Even more guns.   :o

The US is averaging more than one shooting a day this year.

Just yesterday, Senate Republicans voted against a law that would have prevented persons on the terrorist watch list, felons and the mentally ill from purchasing firearms.  I fail to see how that keeps us safer.

Quote
Senate Republicans voted against barring suspected terrorists, felons and the mentally ill from getting guns on Thursday afternoon, parroting National Rifle Association arguments that doing so would strip some innocent people of their constitutional rights to gun access just a day after yet another massacre on U.S. soil.

A pair of Democratic measures - one to close background check loopholes to make it harder for felons and the mentally ill from buying guns, another to ban those on the terror watch list from buying guns - both went down in flames against near-unanimous GOP opposition.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/senate-gop-votes-terrorist-gun-bill-article-1.2454448


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Chechem on December 04, 2015, 05:28:34 AM
"People can be bought."  HTH


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 04, 2015, 05:31:43 AM
"People can be Politicians are bought."  HTH
FIFY   ;D


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Chechem on December 04, 2015, 05:36:18 AM
"People can be Politicians are bought."  HTH
FIFY   ;D

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/4f/18/50/4f1850fd470be9a21ed64cabb1ef5496.jpg)


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Old Tider on December 04, 2015, 12:12:30 PM

The US is averaging more than one shooting a day this year.


A mass shooting is often defined as one in which four or more victims die.  Using this, the US has had 355 mass shootings so far this year.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 04, 2015, 01:11:14 PM

Even more guns.   :o

The US is averaging more than one shooting a day this year.

Just yesterday, Senate Republicans voted against a law that would have prevented persons on the terrorist watch list, felons and the mentally ill from purchasing firearms.  I fail to see how that keeps us safer.

Quote
Senate Republicans voted against barring suspected terrorists, felons and the mentally ill from getting guns on Thursday afternoon, parroting National Rifle Association arguments that doing so would strip some innocent people of their constitutional rights to gun access just a day after yet another massacre on U.S. soil.

A pair of Democratic measures - one to close background check loopholes to make it harder for felons and the mentally ill from buying guns, another to ban those on the terror watch list from buying guns - both went down in flames against near-unanimous GOP opposition.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/senate-gop-votes-terrorist-gun-bill-article-1.2454448

I don't know any of the details about this specific bill, but I am not going to assume that it is "good" just because the democrats and certain media outlets claim that it is.  By the same token though, I will not assume that it is "bad" simply because the republicans and the NRA vote it down.  In fact, since the vote was so partisan, I think it is safe to say that this was not a real solution but simply political posturing by both sides.

However, I was furious when I recently found out that supposedly 40% of firearm purchases do not require a background check, the same background check that I had to go through a couple of weeks ago.  I am not sure how that happens, but I assume that it has to do with buying the weapon at a gun show.

This, my friends, is why I am generally opposed to the federal government doing pretty much anything beyond what is absolutely necessary, such as national defense.  They are so incompetent that whatever they attempt to do is going to end up like this.  I am not a genius, but it seems quite obvious to little ol' me that someone who can't pass a background check would just go and buy their weapons at the gun show.  So the net effect of having the background check is that it forces law abiding citizens who buy their gun at a gun store and have no trouble passing the background check to have to go through more crap while the bad guys go to the gun show and walk out with a weapon.  In my case it took 3 days for them to figure out that I was a good guy.  Had they taken 1 more day I could have bought the weapon any way without them ever finishing the background check, which is also stupid.

So, in summary, the Brady Bill is stupid, does nothing to curtail illegal gun purchases, and is only an inconvenience to those who have done nothing wrong.  This farce of the democrats trying to pass more and more of these "common sense" gun laws every time something bad happens and the republicans opposing every single gun law is quite tiresome.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 04, 2015, 02:03:07 PM

Even more guns.   :o

The US is averaging more than one shooting a day this year.

Just yesterday, Senate Republicans voted against a law that would have prevented persons on the terrorist watch list, felons and the mentally ill from purchasing firearms.  I fail to see how that keeps us safer.

Quote
Senate Republicans voted against barring suspected terrorists, felons and the mentally ill from getting guns on Thursday afternoon, parroting National Rifle Association arguments that doing so would strip some innocent people of their constitutional rights to gun access just a day after yet another massacre on U.S. soil.

A pair of Democratic measures - one to close background check loopholes to make it harder for felons and the mentally ill from buying guns, another to ban those on the terror watch list from buying guns - both went down in flames against near-unanimous GOP opposition.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/senate-gop-votes-terrorist-gun-bill-article-1.2454448

I don't know any of the details about this specific bill, but I am not going to assume that it is "good" just because the democrats and certain media outlets claim that it is.  By the same token though, I will not assume that it is "bad" simply because the republicans and the NRA vote it down.  In fact, since the vote was so partisan, I think it is safe to say that this was not a real solution but simply political posturing by both sides.

However, I was furious when I recently found out that supposedly 40% of firearm purchases do not require a background check, the same background check that I had to go through a couple of weeks ago.  I am not sure how that happens, but I assume that it has to do with buying the weapon at a gun show.

This, my friends, is why I am generally opposed to the federal government doing pretty much anything beyond what is absolutely necessary, such as national defense.  They are so incompetent that whatever they attempt to do is going to end up like this.  I am not a genius, but it seems quite obvious to little ol' me that someone who can't pass a background check would just go and buy their weapons at the gun show.  So the net effect of having the background check is that it forces law abiding citizens who buy their gun at a gun store and have no trouble passing the background check to have to go through more crap while the bad guys go to the gun show and walk out with a weapon.  In my case it took 3 days for them to figure out that I was a good guy.  Had they taken 1 more day I could have bought the weapon any way without them ever finishing the background check, which is also stupid.

So, in summary, the Brady Bill is stupid, does nothing to curtail illegal gun purchases, and is only an inconvenience to those who have done nothing wrong.  This farce of the democrats trying to pass more and more of these "common sense" gun laws every time something bad happens and the republicans opposing every single gun law is quite tiresome.
True, it's all politics.  The Brady Bill was on Reagan's agenda, by the way.  No way he would win the Republican primary today.   :lol2:


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 04, 2015, 02:10:20 PM
Reagan was not half the man that Trump is.  :facepalm: :lol2:


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: ricky023 on December 04, 2015, 02:54:13 PM
The only way to change Washington is to not vote for anybody that is in office right now. I know one thing Mike Rogers won't get my vote anymore. I went to his office in Anniston for help with my VA claim and they ain't done not one single thing. He turned out to be a Christian liar. I am sorry but I speak the truth as I know it. RTR!


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 04, 2015, 05:59:39 PM
Reagan was not half the man that Trump is.  :facepalm: :lol2:

Here's the latest scuttlebutt:

Quote
Bloomberg puts Trump’s current net worth at $2.9 billion, Forbes at $4.1 billion. The National Journal has worked out that if Trump had just put his father’s money in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500 and spent his career finger-painting, he’d have $8 billion. 

http://afflictor.com/2015/10/15/if-trump-had-just-put-his-fathers-money-in-a-mutual-fund-that-tracked-the-sp-500-hed-have-8-billion/

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/54699/1-easy-way-donald-trump-could-have-been-even-richer-doing-nothing


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: ricky023 on December 04, 2015, 06:07:52 PM
Reagan was not half the man that Trump is.  :facepalm: :lol2:

Here's the latest scuttlebutt:

Quote
Bloomberg puts Trump’s current net worth at $2.9 billion, Forbes at $4.1 billion. The National Journal has worked out that if Trump had just put his father’s money in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500 and spent his career finger-painting, he’d have $8 billion. 

http://afflictor.com/2015/10/15/if-trump-had-just-put-his-fathers-money-in-a-mutual-fund-that-tracked-the-sp-500-hed-have-8-billion/

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/54699/1-easy-way-donald-trump-could-have-been-even-richer-doing-nothing




He is a great business man and I like him, but I got be satisfied with his foreighn policy and his undoing of what obamer did during his time. RTR!


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 04, 2015, 06:30:05 PM
Reagan was not half the man that Trump is.  :facepalm: :lol2:

Here's the latest scuttlebutt:

Quote
Bloomberg puts Trump’s current net worth at $2.9 billion, Forbes at $4.1 billion. The National Journal has worked out that if Trump had just put his father’s money in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500 and spent his career finger-painting, he’d have $8 billion. 

http://afflictor.com/2015/10/15/if-trump-had-just-put-his-fathers-money-in-a-mutual-fund-that-tracked-the-sp-500-hed-have-8-billion/

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/54699/1-easy-way-donald-trump-could-have-been-even-richer-doing-nothing


This explains A LOT!  I had no idea he inherited his fortune.  It appears that he is about half way through squandering it all.

Meanwhile, the latest national poll has him at 36%.  :facepalm:


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 05, 2015, 07:04:54 AM
Reagan was not half the man that Trump is.  :facepalm: :lol2:

Here's the latest scuttlebutt:

Quote
Bloomberg puts Trump’s current net worth at $2.9 billion, Forbes at $4.1 billion. The National Journal has worked out that if Trump had just put his father’s money in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500 and spent his career finger-painting, he’d have $8 billion. 

http://afflictor.com/2015/10/15/if-trump-had-just-put-his-fathers-money-in-a-mutual-fund-that-tracked-the-sp-500-hed-have-8-billion/

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/54699/1-easy-way-donald-trump-could-have-been-even-richer-doing-nothing


This explains A LOT!  I had no idea he inherited his fortune.  It appears that he is about half way through squandering it all.

Meanwhile, the latest national poll has him at 36%.  :facepalm:

I don't have an opinion about the accuracy of those financial numbers, but thought it was funny, they way they put it.

Of course Trump inherited money.  He speaks of when he was young and got a "small loan" of $1 million from his father to get started. 

 


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 05, 2015, 12:23:32 PM
Reagan was not half the man that Trump is.  :facepalm: :lol2:

Here's the latest scuttlebutt:

Quote
Bloomberg puts Trump’s current net worth at $2.9 billion, Forbes at $4.1 billion. The National Journal has worked out that if Trump had just put his father’s money in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500 and spent his career finger-painting, he’d have $8 billion. 

http://afflictor.com/2015/10/15/if-trump-had-just-put-his-fathers-money-in-a-mutual-fund-that-tracked-the-sp-500-hed-have-8-billion/

http://www.nationaljournal.com/s/54699/1-easy-way-donald-trump-could-have-been-even-richer-doing-nothing


This explains A LOT!  I had no idea he inherited his fortune.  It appears that he is about half way through squandering it all.

Meanwhile, the latest national poll has him at 36%.  :facepalm:

I don't have an opinion about the accuracy of those financial numbers, but thought it was funny, they way they put it.

Of course Trump inherited money.  He speaks of when he was young and got a "small loan" of $1 million from his father to get started. 

 

I knew about the million loan, but I had no idea he inherited enough to have 8 billion today.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: XBAMA on December 05, 2015, 12:36:05 PM
not sure how many guns ya'll have bought at gun shows but ....
I have bought ten so far this year and every single one of I went through a
federal back ground check and so did everyone else that bought a firearm
it has been that way for years
not sure where there is a gun show that doesn't do back grounds but it isn't here

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:




Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 05, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
not sure how many guns ya'll have bought at gun shows but ....
I have bought ten so far this year and every single one of I went through a
federal back ground check and so did everyone else that bought a firearm
it has been that way for years
not sure where there is a gun show that doesn't do back grounds but it isn't here

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:




0 for me.  Thanks for the info.  Do you have any insights on that 40% number that they were talking about?  Is it just a big fat lie?


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 05, 2015, 01:29:00 PM
not sure how many guns ya'll have bought at gun shows but ....
I have bought ten so far this year and every single one of I went through a
federal back ground check and so did everyone else that bought a firearm
it has been that way for years
not sure where there is a gun show that doesn't do back grounds but it isn't here

 :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:




Federal law does not require a private seller at a gun show to perform a background check.  Licensed dealers, however, are required to perform checks regardless of where the sale takes place.  About 18 states have some form of requirement beyond federal law, requiring background checks regardless of whether the vendor is a dealer or private person.  Some of these states limit that to handgun sales.


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: ricky023 on December 05, 2015, 02:23:59 PM
Do you think the media could concocked this stuff to try and make him look bad so he would fall in the minds of the people? You know the media wants to control everybody and everything. They can't control him it seems. RTR!


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: XBAMA on December 05, 2015, 03:44:09 PM
I guess I've never bought a gun from a non licensed dealer then or there are none at the shows we go to
every booth has at least one person or more doing nothing but back grounds
the last show , two weeks ago , there were so many people in the arena you couldn't hardly walk in the aisles
and a Sheriff officer checks you in when you arrive .

the local news station was there with cameras doing a story because of the amount of
people buying guns they said 
and to beat it all there was a blind guy at the booth we were shopping at  buying a pistol too

if Jimbo's  used tires and fish market ever has a gun show I try it and see if I can buy one without
a back ground check  ...


BTW .... they gave an award at the show as well

(https://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/obama-gun-salesman-of-the-year-firearms-salesman-of-the-century-sad-hill-news-1.jpg)


 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: SUPERCOACH on December 05, 2015, 03:49:45 PM
I guess I've never bought a gun from a non licensed dealer then or there are none at the shows we go to
every booth has at least one person or more doing nothing but back grounds
the last show , two weeks ago , there were so many people in the arena you couldn't hardly walk in the aisles
and a Sheriff officer checks you in when you arrive .

the local news station was there with cameras doing a story because of the amount of
people buying guns they said 
and to beat it all there was a blind guy at the booth we were shopping at  buying a pistol too

if Jimbo's  used tires and fish market ever has a gun show I try it and see if I can buy one without
a back ground check  ...


BTW .... they gave an award at the show as well

(https://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/obama-gun-salesman-of-the-year-firearms-salesman-of-the-century-sad-hill-news-1.jpg)


 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I can honestly say he sold me one.  :lol2:


Title: Re: Mass shooting in San Bernadino, Ca
Post by: Catch Prothro on December 05, 2015, 08:22:12 PM

(https://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/obama-gun-salesman-of-the-year-firearms-salesman-of-the-century-sad-hill-news-1.jpg)

:lol: :lol:

If you think he's a good salesman, imagine how many guns she would sell. 

(http://preservefreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/hillary_clinton-holding_gun-300x227.jpg)