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« on: July 26, 2011, 05:02:42 PM »

I was listening to Coach Saban on Cowherd his afternoon and as usual he was ask the question about qb's.  I got to thinking about the possibility of the two qb system.  What I am wanting here is your opinions.  I look at the situation like this.  The two qb system can be a positive because if one goes down you have a qb ready to step in with experience.  However there could be a downside.  In college players tend to gravitate to others.  Some players will like one qb better than the other.  This is just human nature.   This could lead to problems on the team's chemistry, which is more important than some people actually think with the success of a team. 

Don't take this wrong and think I am trying to create a problem, I am just wondering what other are other people's opinion.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 05:10:49 PM »

I was listening to Coach Saban on Cowherd his afternoon and as usual he was ask the question about qb's.  I got to thinking about the possibility of the two qb system.  What I am wanting here is your opinions.  I look at the situation like this.  The two qb system can be a positive because if one goes down you have a qb ready to step in with experience.  However there could be a downside.  In college players tend to gravitate to others.  Some players will like one qb better than the other.  This is just human nature.   This could lead to problems on the team's chemistry, which is more important than some people actually think with the success of a team. 

Don't take this wrong and think I am trying to create a problem, I am just wondering what other are other people's opinion.

This morning on ESPN, CNS said that as long as there was no adverse effects to the team's chemistry from one or the other QB, he would entertain a 2QB system if both performed well. I guess I would agree with that.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 05:21:54 PM »

"Usually" doesn't work.  But with this team and these two kids it may work out really well. I havent seen enough of either of them. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 05:47:40 PM »

Am I wrong or was the last time we used 2 QBs with some success was when Andrew Zow and Tyler Watts played? Seemed like it worked at times. Times it didn't. That was different time and different kids and of course different coaches. I could see it working with CNS in charge.

CNS builds such a great team around the quarterback, it allows the pro-set and Wildcat to be successful. Having a quarterback out there that runs one offense and the other out there to run a different offense could prove successful.

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 05:51:12 PM »

Let's say a qb is hot, do you leave him in?

And before that Todd and Rutledge
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 05:57:17 PM »

I don't know. Seems like you tell the players before the game what series they are starting in.

If one takes opening drive for 80 yards do you start the other on the next series?

That's why he the coach. He has seen them practice for 2 years.

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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 06:03:35 PM »

Lot of questions.  They have to be very mature to handle this situation as well as a total team player.
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2011, 06:20:37 PM »

I don't know the answers. We have been fortunate not  having to substitute, until late in last years boogs game. JPW and GMAC took some terrible hits in the last 4 years. I was surprised to see them get up after some of them.

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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2011, 08:01:28 PM »

This is a unique situation.  Neither QB has enough experience to demonstrate that he can take the controls with confidence.  I don't think it's great insight on my part to say that if CNS names a starter now he'll likely lose the other player to a transfer (it seems the norm these days for QBs to skip schools).  So, it seems to me that CNS is doing what I predicted during the spring*.  He's saying he'll give them both a try, let both play during the first few games, then let the better one become the starter.  That way we may keep them both as insurance.

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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2011, 08:19:02 PM »

They showed A-Day highlights today on SC and they both looked good. Good defense they were playing against.

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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2011, 08:20:50 PM »

^ What CAT says. CNS has always been against the 2QB system. Now he finds himself thrown into a 2 QB situation. I think he figured out that it is better for BOTH QBS and the team, to have them thinking they are both going to play, until one QB defines himself clearly as a frontrunner. I am relatively sure his is not happy about the situation, other than if you're stuck with a rookie QB, it is better to be stuck with 2 of them.
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« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2011, 08:24:28 PM »

^ What CAT says. CNS has always been against the 2QB system. Now he finds himself thrown into a 2 QB situation. I think he figured out that it is better for BOTH QBS and the team, to have them thinking they are both going to play, until one QB defines himself clearly as a frontrunner. I am relatively sure his is not happy about the situation, other than if you're stuck with a rookie QB, it is better to be stuck with 2 of them.

Yeah, it's not the usual situation: an older, less-talented QB vs a young gun.  And it's not like UF last year: passer vs runner.  Both are pro-style pocket QBs with good arms.  Which can run the offense.  Barring injury, we've got both.  Does that mean we have 2 average QBs, as the talking heads like to say?  Nope, just 2 with exceptional talent and below-average experience.
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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2011, 08:56:22 PM »

Speaking of QBs. Matt Mauch is attending U of Colorado in Boulder to become a dentist. He dropped out of the Broncos.

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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2011, 09:08:36 PM »

^ What CAT says. CNS has always been against the 2QB system. Now he finds himself thrown into a 2 QB situation. I think he figured out that it is better for BOTH QBS and the team, to have them thinking they are both going to play, until one QB defines himself clearly as a frontrunner. I am relatively sure his is not happy about the situation, other than if you're stuck with a rookie QB, it is better to be stuck with 2 of them.

Yeah, it's not the usual situation: an older, less-talented QB vs a young gun.  And it's not like UF last year: passer vs runner.  Both are pro-style pocket QBs with good arms.  Which can run the offense.  Barring injury, we've got both.  Does that mean we have 2 average QBs, as the talking heads like to say?  Nope, just 2 with exceptional talent and below-average experience.

Yep, I agree completely ... this certainly does not seem to be the usual situation. From a style perspective, they seem like peas in a pod, which will help the offense deal with QB substitutions ... 'cept with snap count, of course. Plus, we're WAY overdue for a significant QB injury.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2011, 10:28:29 PM »

It is hard to say what to do without really being in the coaching situation with them.  I, as I have said before, think they both are talented and capable of leading the team.
If I did employ the 2 qb system there would be some ground rules.
First, there will be playing time for both.  It may not be equal.  If a qb is hot I may stay with him longer than I plan.  I just can justify pulling a qb if he has completed 10 passes in a row. 
There are things that bother me.  First, team chemistry with some players aligning themselves with a certain qb.  This could cause a division in the team.  Example, I will make up.  One rec says why does the other qb get more pass plays called than you do. 
Also, which qb gets the start.  I think it should be based on two things.  Who has the best week of practice and who has the best grasp of the game plan for the week. 
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