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Alabama outfielder Cassie Reilly-Boccia (Yorktown Heights, N.Y.) was one of 10 softball student-athletes that were selected as finalists today for the 2012 Lowe’s Senior CLASS Award. To be eligible for the award, a student-athlete must be classified as an NCAA Division I senior and have notable achievements in four areas of excellence – community, classroom, character and competition.


http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

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just voted, Cassie is leading the pack right now

just voted, but, they will not let you vote but once a day... >:(

I will come back tomorrow. RTR!

Got mine in, c'mon folks let's help her out.  :clap:

Done and done!

Done!

If you voted on your work computer you can vote again on your home computer or laptop.

It is very close Cassie needs our help.

Just voted on my smart phone.

She is currently in 3rd place so everyone be sure and vote and send the link to others that might care to vote.

DONE!

Done.  She is in 3rd.  The girl from Hawaii is winning.

Done.

Done...another vote for Cassie and an e-cred for everyone who voted ahead of me  ;)

Get out & vote guys, she's now trailing Ricketts 22% to 16%.

I see 2 people have moved in front of her. RTR!

Done

Done!  but we people to vote!

Done

Done.  Here is the link again so you don't have to go back to page 1.

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Voted again

Looks like the voters in Hawaii and California are turning out

We've got some work ahead of us to support Cassie

Bump

Don't forget to vote for Cassie today.

Done.  She is still in 3rd.

 Done!

You can only vote 1 time per day on your computer but I tried to vote again on my cell phone and it let me.

Got it voted. RTR!

voted today

Done

Voted for a 3rd or 4th time.  She's pretty solidly in third.

Yeah, the numbers don't appear to be changing over the last couple of days.

DONE!

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Bump.

and again

Done for me. It don't look like she is gaining right now. RTR!

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http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Don't forget that you can vote twice each day, once from your computer and once from your cell phone. I just Google up the link on my cell to access it, there may be an easier way.

done

Done

Done

Dun it agin! RTR!

Bump

done

Voted.  She is closing in on 2nd

Done

Done.  She has gained some ground on 2nd since yesterday.

I just voted from my phone too.

I got mine in today. RTR!

In.

Cassie is now tied for 2nd place, so let's see if we can't get her to the number one spot. Don't forget to you can vote twice, on your computer and on your cell phone. Roll Tide!! :clap:

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

 :-X #+

Done. Cassie is solidly in 2nd now.

voted  yep solid 2nd  hawaii girl is still leading

Done.  She is gaining on 1st place.

Cassie is gaining on the #1 spot.  :clap:

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

DONE!

Done.

Done.

Been out a couple of days, but got 'er done today

strange, I voted this morning and it just allowed me to vote again 8)

Everyone needs to keep voting. Cassie is in 2nd place and gaining on 1st. This contest ends in a few days so vote now.

Just voted on my phone.

19,1%,,,,,,done

Bump.

Voted, Cassie in 2nd with 19.3%

Voted :)

Voted.  19.4%  She's gaining.

Done. The gap is narrowing!

It's great to see all of you supporting Cassie, she is a class act and a very good ballplayer. I think some of the South Carolina players might be ready to vote for her after today's game.  :clap:

I thought so too, but now the gap is going back up.  Those Hawaii fans must vote late -- what is their time zone called anyway?

DONE!

Done.

Maybe SC could put this on the front page, maybe some of our guests would like to vote as well.  :dunno:

Good idea.

OK voted again but it looks like she is doing well. RTR!

Thanks!  :clap:

it just let me vote for the 2nd time today....RTR!

Done!

Got mine in

done

voted for today

Done.

Here is the link again.

When is the final day of voting?

Fan votes count 1/3 of the total, with 2/3 coming from coaches and media.

Well I am in there again. We need some help for her. RTR!

I think it is May 14 or somewhere close to that.  There is still plenty of time to catch up if we keep voting every day.

Done.

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

DONE!

Cool.  Voted again.  She is up to 19.6%.  And it appears now to be a two girl race, with everyone else dropping down.  The Yankee press likely will go for the Hawaiin girl, the coaches maybe not.

Done.

Done

We are losing ground. :( >:(

I just cast my 2 votes.

Done!

Bump for page 7


http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

 #+ Voting like a Democrat...early and often  ;)

 :lol:

Done.

Voted.  She is about to hit 20%

Well now she is at 20%. I just got mine in for her. RTR!

20% NOW!

Done

Bump

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

done!

2 more for CRB.

Done.

20.1, with the Hawaiin girl at 25.6

I have figured out how to vote as many times as you want.  :D

Here is how you can vote as many times as you want:

1.  After you vote, you will see a message that looks like this:

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2.  Right click anywhere on that message.  You should see a menu that looks similar to this:

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3.  Click on the Settings command close to the bottom.  NOT Global Settings.

4.  This will bring up the Adobe Flash Player Settings screen that should look something like this:

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5.  There are tabs across the bottom.  Be sure to click on the tab that looks like a file folder, if you are not already on that one.

6.  Now you are on the local storage settings.  See that little slider that lets you specify how much storage can be used by www.seniorclassaward.com?  Note which tick mark it is on.  Mine was on the 3rd tick mark which is 100KB.

7.  Move that thing all the way to the left.  This sets it to 0, which erases the information for www.seniorclassaward.com.  This causes it to lose track of the fact that you have already voted today.

8.  You should see a warning message similar to this:

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9.  Click on the OK button.

10.  Now your screen should look like this, with the slider all the way to the left:

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11.  Now click on the close button.

12.  Now refresh the page in your browser window.

13.  It will reload, and it should show you the voting form again with the vote now button, instead of the "already voted" message.

14.  However at this point you still can't vote.  You have to turn the storage back on first.

15.  Right click on the voting form again to bring up the menu:

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16.  Click on the settings menu again.

17.  Now move the slider back to the original spot (noted from step 6).  Don't worry if you don't remember what it was set to originally.  Just move it to the 3rd tick mark, which should be 100KB.

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18.  Now click the close button.

19.  You should be back on the voting form and you can now vote again.

20.  Go back to step 1.  Do this as many times as you want.

No doubt that this is how the other girl is staying in the lead.  Well we should be able to catch up to her now if everyone starts doing this.

How long will it take us to catch up to the leader now?

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Bump. I just cast about 10 more votes. Once you do it one time, it's easy. Everybody vote early and often.

I tried this and it didn't work for me. RTR!

DONE

I tried again just now and it still won't work even following the instructions to the letter. RTR!

Something's not right. The lead has widened.  :-\

Same thing re TR; more people hate winners than support them.

Sweeter than snuff and not half as dusty!  :clap:

Done!

They are clearly doing something similar.  They may even have a computer set up to do this automatically.

That's kind of what I was thinking. I cast about 10-12 more votes this morning. Nothing changed.

Same here.  And as you noted, the other girl has actually increased the lead a little since yesterday.

 :tinfoil:

I don't think the counter tallies as we vote, I think it updates itself maybe every hour. Aso, once the votes get into the thousands, it takes quite a few to change a precentage point. We need to just keep hammering it.  ;)

Hopefully you are right.  I will pop over there throughout the day and vote a few times.

We have gained a little ground since I voted earlier today.

I noticed that. I just cast a few more.

Bump.

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Well I got one more in there. I just couldn't get the more than one vote a day thing to work. Maybe I ain't suppose to do that but if ya'll can go for it. I hope she wins! RTR!

Just gave her 10 more, hope it helps

I don't know if our voting system is working either, I have voted over 100 times today and it doesn't seem to make a difference.  :dunno:

Well a nice early vote for me. RTR!

done!

We are flat out losing ground now.  :-\

Done. It seems that each day they get their lump of votes that keeps them where they are at percentage wise in the poll, it could be no more than 100 votes but it is very consistant.

On the other hand, it's hard to say that 100 or more people are voting each day for Cassie.

 :(  :dunno:

Done mine

me too!

I've got carpal tunnel from voting so much and the gap just keeps widening.  :pullhair:

I suspect they have automated their voting with a computer somehow.  Our method still requires a real person and takes time.  A computer doing the same thing could vote many more times than a real person.

In my opinion, there is no way they could have more votes by real people.  I don't know anything about their program.  But I do know that we had almost 4000 show up for a game the other day, which set a NCAA record for attendance at a single regular season game.  It seems like we have broken the Bama attendance record several times the last year or so with several games in the 3000's.  Everyday I see voting reminders all over twitter and the internet from the coaches, players, web sites like ours, and other fans.  They must be using computers to vote.

Maybe we can figure out a way to level the playing field before it is too late.

Any ideas, SC?

I might be able to do something if I get a chance to look into it a little more.  The tough part will be bypassing those random numbers and letters that you have to type in to vote.  Of course there could be a back door that is wide open.  I will try to look into this week and see what I can figure out.

Yeah, the random numbers are used to prevent automation, from what I understand. That's why I can't understand why the gap keeps widening, unless they have more people doing what we're doing. If I lived in Hawaii, you can bet my azz wouldn't be sitting around spending time voting on the computer.  ;D

Yep, this is exactly why I suspect there might be a back door that is wide open, so to speak.  Maybe this week I can turn the door knob and see if it is locked.  If it isn't, then shame on them.

SC!, SC!, SC!.........

Thanks SC, you're the man!!  #+

DONE!

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Bump.

voted again, and again, and again,

What happen guys? We had her at 20% and now we are back down to 19%. We lost % of our votes for her. RTR!

 ???  Done   ???

we need some help here!....19.7%

The University of Hawaii has 20K more students than U of A.  Maybe they don't have anything better to do, after they are done surfing anyway.

That is interesting.  I wonder what the average attendance is at a softball game.

Only 498 in 2010 according to this NCAA doc:

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/SB_Records/2011/attend.pdf

This has to be crazy. We are down to 19.1% now, we was higher than that yesterday. RTR!

Somebody has figured out something for the California girl, she jumped 4% yesterday, Cassie has fallen to 18.8%.

Bump.

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

I did something today with the voting to see what would happen. I voted multiple times, 3, but instead of voting just for Cassie each time, I voted for the two lowest in the poll as well. Fernandez and Hansen and Cassie each raised .1% and Ricketts dropped .3%. I voted about 50 times and it didn't reflect it right away. Adding the other two girls might be a way of reducing Ricketts percent wise as well as increasing Cassies. I also increased my computer setting from 1KB to 1MB, not sure if this would make a difference or not, maybe SC knows more about this.  :dunno:

Done,   also voted for the two with 4%

Changing the setting from 1KB to 1MB should not make any difference.

Same here

done.....?

Why she keep going down in %? This is even crazier. Yesterday she was at 19%. RTR!

Done

done!

She has fallen to 3rd place.  :(

Did they punish her because we voted more than once or what ever? RTR!

I'm floating the rumor that SR wants to take away our guns!

It would appear that they left the back door wide open.  I have a computer voting about twice per minute.  We'll check it in the morning and see if it makes a difference.  She is at about 17.1% right now.

You da man, SC!!!  #+

Still 17%; this thing is fixed!   >:(

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Now at 17.6%.

 ??? ??? ??? Getting more sinister all the time,-- or I need to take a few days off work. :-\

DONE!

Win, lose or draw, I'm voting for Cassie

It is at 18.2% now.  It seems to be working.  I will leave it running today while I am away.

I have done it again. I see I am confused. She goes up and comes down and now she is going back up again. lol, RTR!

She is up to 18.9% now.  It looks like the computer installed some automatic updates and rebooted, which stopped the voting.  I hate Microsoft.  I started it back up.

 >:(

Great job SC, we're making a good move upward now. When I got up the link this morning she was at 19.8% and I started putting in a bunch of votes myself and now she's at 20.2%. She's got some votes to make up to get back close to #1 one but if everyone will get back on board and do some multiple voting we just might can make the difference.  :clap:

Voted

Inching closer. This is NOT a Lost Cause! Vote early and often.

Up to 21.4% now.  I think we will catch up and take the lead this week.  There is still two weeks left.  I can fire up some more helpers if we need them to get the job done.

Thanks SC, you ARE the  man!!!  #+

Got my vote(s) in. :D

She is up to 22% right now.  However the girl in the lead keeps going up too, so we aren't really catching up to her any more.  They must have added some more auto-voters once they figured out we were going to overtake them.  I will add some more too now that I know it works.

I am writing a program that will auto vote for Cassie.  It will run on Windows.  Let me know if you would like to run it on one of your computers and I will send you a link to download it when I have it ready.

I'll give it a shot, I can run it at night and some of the day.

I have it voting once per second.  It seems to be catching up pretty fast when I have it running.  I will run it tonight and see how much ground we can make up.  If we are still not catching up fast enough I may give it out to some people to try to speed things along.  If we vote too fast or with too many people we will crash the server, which would not be good.

We're up to 23.2 and it didn't take long to get there. ;)

23.6% now.   8)

When I started it a little over half an hour ago we were behind by 6%.  Now we are only behind by 5.1%.

I just love it when the battlefield gets leveled out, good job. :dance:  :clap:

throw some more coals on the fire Coach !
keep that train a rollin all nite long !!!!    :clap:


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24% to 28.6% now.

24.2% to 28.6% now.

25.5% to 28.2% now. Anybody want a pineapple sammich?

27.2% to 27.8%

I have 4 of these bad boys running at the moment, so I'm voting 4 times per second.  We are gaining ground quickly.  I wonder how many it can handle at one time.  I don't want to over do it though.

Well, well, well.  Guess who is in the lead now.  27.9 to 27.6

I voted about 12,000 times in the last couple of hours.

8)

 #+ #+ #+


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Consider the battlefield nuked and obliterated by 35,000 votes tonight.  We now have a 12% lead.

I am going to put away the big guns for now, but I can always bring them back out in full force if we need them.  It will be interesting to see what the Hawaii fans do next.

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Name Current vote count   
Valerie Arioto 13.9% 
Katelyn Boyd 3% 
Mallory Duran-Sellers 2.8% 
Julie Fernandez 2.8% 
Ashley Hansen 2.7% 
Michelle Moultrie 4.8% 
Christi Orgeron 6% 
Cassie Reilly-Boccia 36.4% 
Stephanie Ricketts 24.9% 
Niki Williams 2.7% 

How sweet it is!!!!  #+ #+ #+ #+ #+

I feel guilty.  :-[  Should we self report and give up a few recruits?

 :lol:

Nah, everybody's doing it.  :nah:  ;D

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Still a solid 11 1/2% lead.

Wow!nicely done! #+

My preference would be for them to prevent such silliness, but apparently they lack the technical skills to do so.

I thought about making the lead so ridiculous that it forced them to address the issues, but I was concerned that they might just remove our votes and leave the other ones in place.

>:(

I also thought about making the program vote for everyone EXCEPT the girl from Hawaii to sort of cancel out her auto votes.  I may do that the next time.

Okay, your heart's in the right place.

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I have posted my vote again and all of a sudden we go from behind to way ahead. This just shuckles me. lol. RTR!

Re-bump.

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

Way to go coach.

My little 10 votes a day seems so insignificant.  ;D

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 #+ #+ #+ #+ #+

Still a 10% lead.  :clap:

Man, I think they have blocked me on my computer, I had been voting quite a bit. I had access yesterday morning and when I got in last night I didn't. I still can vote daily with my cell phone though, no big deal.

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

wow!...what happened?

-12.7%     :-[

It looks like they turned their voting bots back on again.  I just turned mine on.  We will see if Lowes figures it out and shuts me down.  They have already voted 200 times just while I typed this post.

This is the craziest thing I have ever seen. She went from a big lead to behind, my goodness. RTR!

It really is becoming a joke.  At this point I think they need to shut the whole thing down and regroup.  But we will probably be back in the lead soon if they don't.

My voting bots are not working any more.  They have closed the door I was using.  Those other guys must be using another method.

Or maybe no one can auto vote any more and they deleted all of my votes but left everyone else's votes.  Let's see if their lead continues to increase or if it stays pretty much the same.  If they have closed all of the loop holes so that it requires a real person to vote Cassie might still win.  We are setting NCAA attendance records while those other schools only have around 500 people showing up at the games.

Just so you all understand the Hawaii fans have never used these auto vote programs, we do not cheat by voting more than once a day, all these votes you see are from our fans and supporters.  If we win that's great if we lose that's ok too, but we will do it on the up and up. 

You speak with BIG forked tongue....

All I know is that it was a pretty close contest and then all of a sudden the Hawaii girl spiked up by about 10 points in the course of a couple of days.

While you may not be using a vote bot, someone for Hawaii was.  It looks like they have closed that loophole now though, and I'm glad they did.

:lol: :lol:

It didn't take long with a google search to find all sorts of Hawaii fans talking about their different strategies to vote multiple times per day.

Well all I have ever voted was one time. I just did it today. RTR!

You are allowed to vote once per day.

Hey BAMAWV, I have voted everyday but only once. When I tried the way SC told us mind still wouldn't add no more. Anyway I turned doing it once a day I still hope she wins. RTR!

http://warriorbeat.staradvertiserblogs.com/2012/04/30/outta-their-league/

Comment 132.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I see my plan worked.   8)

I voted 35,000 times that night because I WANTED to make it obvious to Lowe's that the voting had some serious issues so that they would hopefully fix them and we could have a FAIR contest.  If my goal was to win the contest for Cassie by cheating, I would have done exactly what they were doing and stayed under the radar.  I also would not have posted the fact that I voted for Cassie 35,000 times on a public web site so that anyone that knows how to use google could find out and delete my votes, which is apparently what they did.  I expected them to audit the votes and delete all of the extra votes though, not just ours.

The funny part is this same web site has tons of posts by the Hawaii fans talking about their different strategies for voting as many times as possible.  Then when someone else figures out what they are doing and levels the playing field they send in a complaint to Lowe's.  So they are all for cheating as long as it is working in their favor, but then when the tables are turned they cry foul.  Then come here and claim they weren't cheating in the first place.

 ;)

Comment 144 from the same web page.

:lol: :lol:

I think I like some of these Hawaii folks.

I would have never even thought to do this had it not been obvious that they were voting multiple times per day.  Once I had a little time to look into it, it was not hard to do at all.

I'm pretty sure Cassie would do well in a legitimate contest considering the attendance at Alabama games (3000 to 4000 per game, breaking records several times) vs. attendance to Hawaii games (498 per game in 2010).

:lol:

Cool.  They gave us the name of the person at Lowe's that responded to them.  Now maybe we should point out to Lowe's that they need to go back and take a look at the Hawaii votes too.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I may send her a link to this topic.

Hey pot, meet kettle.  :lol:

is that the message forum bill gates invented in his garage ?

man that thing is tough to look at ...
what ???  1972 ?  73 ? maybe ?

Aha!  Comment 150 on that page is where they found my post about the 35,000 votes.

maybe they will bring up the way they JACKED Jessie around
 like they did too ?

naw ... I doubt it ...  :dunno:

I don't think so.  I believe they missed quite a few illegal votes.  They only cleared the OBVIOUS ones that I sent in.

He must've climbed a coconut tree where he could see all around. I sometimes kid the Hawaiians.

They are still cheating I see.  This must be the guy who had the original vote bot going.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe it is time for IVFB II?  Wouldn't THAT be hilarious!!!

:lol: :lol:

I just sent this to Lowes:

I will ignore the slur, but you are correct that there where a few Hawaii fans that had voted more than once a day, the most that I know of was a few hundred.  When Lowes was contacted they corrected all duplicate votes including the one for the Hawaii girl, but if you want to believe that we are cheating then I suggest that you contact Lowes and let them know. If you would notice when they first made the correction to the total votes the Hawaii girl drop a few percentage points also, and that is because they threw out the duplicate votes for her also, I don't understand why the Alabama folks think that they have more softball fans then Hawaii has.  But as the voting goes on may the best player win.

You seem like a reasonable fan.  We only want a fair vote.  As I have proven, it only takes one guy with the appropriate computer skills to vote 35,000 times in a couple of hours.  I could have voted much more than that if I had wanted to.

The reason we think we have more softball fans, and the reason I became suspicious in the first place, is that we routinely have 3,000 to 4,000 fans at every home game.  A couple of weeks ago we set an NCAA attendance record of 3940 fans at a single game.  I checked a web site that has NCAA statistics on softball attendance and it said that Hawaii only had 498 fans per game in 2010, the last year that they had results for.  I then checked some box scores for some recent Hawaii games and it appeared the attendance range was around 500 to 1000 per game.  I believe I linked to the NCAA site earlier in this post somewhere if you care to take a look for yourself.

Our friends from "The Islands' must be asking themselves why Bama fans would be so concerned with a "Lowe's contest", considering our success in women's softball and the unparalleled sports history of The University of Alabama as a whole. For all intents and purposes this is a trivial matter in the overall reach of college athletics. The answer is simply this-- Our athlete is better than your athlete and deserves to be recognized.

This voting scheme is crazy. Never-the-less, I have been voting 'Honestly and Legally' since day 1, and will continue my efforts in support for Miss Cassie...

Thank you SC for what you did. The voting was skewed and had been skewed for quite awhile before any of the multiple voting was started by some Bama fans including me. Lowes didn't catch anyone doing anything, it was Hawaii that alerted them as to what was going on by us so I don't feel bad about getting caught at anything, but I do have a problem with someone turning us in for something that they started and was doing the same thing.

Hawaii has a track record already for doing some things that aren't just right. The year that they came to Tuscaloosa and beat us with a last inning home run to knock Bama out of a trip to the College World Series is something I will always remember. They led the nation in home runs that year but was found to have been using a "hot" bat, composite material, to accomplish this feat.

None of this would have happened had Hawaii and California not started their schemes and then opened Lowes eyes to someone that that was cheating better than they were. I am with you on cleaning the slate and starting the voting over but Lowes needs to do a better job of monitoring anyone doing multiple voting and not have to depend on a cheater to turn another cheater in. JMO  ;)

 :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2:

That sir is not true, we used the same bat as a lot of other schools used, and for your information the bat that was used to hit that homerun was taken by the NCAA which in turn was cut up so that they could indeed inspect it, there was nothing found illegal about the bat.  I understand how upset you are in the fact that you got beat by a lowly school out in the middle of the ocean but the fact is you did and you can't handle it, but that's cool also. 

I also resent the fact that you spread rumors that Hawaii has a track record already for doing some things that aren't just right, if you proof of this please tell us???

One thing about the number of fans, you are correct that our attendance is an average of about 900 fans, but you must understand that all of our home game are televised throughout the state and live steamed back to the mainland, the stats show that all games have a viewer-ship of about 250,000 viewers and another 25,000 to 30,000 who watch the live stream, so say just half of those vote just once a day you may see why our player has the numbers she has.  But we all agree that we want nothing but an honest vote.

http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1223450

Smoke, meet fire.


 :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2:

QUESTION FOR SOME OF YOU HISTORY MAJORS ...

back in the late 1930's early 1940's , did Hawaii ever play Japan in softball ?

 :dunno:

We got caught because I wasn't trying to hide it.  I could have easily gone undetected if I had wanted too.  In fact I have no doubt that there is still at least one other way to do this, and they would not be able to distinguish between real votes vs. illegal votes.  And who is to say that I vote for Cassie with this new scheme?  A better approach might be to vote for the Hawaii girl, or even some other girl, then once the contest is over post the source code and how I did it as proof that the contest was never fair to begin with.  That would be a marketing/PR nightmare for Lowe's if that happened, especially considering that they know the voting isn't fair and chose not to do anything about it.  Even worse, they helped skew the results by deleting illegal votes for some schools but not others.

I know the people from Lowe's have visited this site.  The Hawaii people sent them a link to this post.  All we want is a FAIR contest.  If the rules say that you can only vote once per day, then we expect that to be enforced equally among all schools.  The Hawaii fans have admitted to voting 100's of times per day.  And even right now there is nothing stopping them or anyone else from continuing to vote as many times as they want as long as you are willing to type in the captcha code.  All I did was make it obvious to everyone that the voting was never fair. 

There are many Bama fans who will only vote once per day because that is the rule, regardless of what everyone else is doing.  If you are going to allow people to vote all they want and not do anything about it, then you need to change the rule so that ALL fans can do the same thing, especially those who would never break the rules in the first place.  The way the contest is setup now it punishes the honest fans and allows the cheaters to win.

It really doesn't bother me one bit if we lost in a fair contest.  That happens every day.  But it burns me up to see an Alabama girl lose because the other school is clearly cheating (and even admitted to it), and the people running the contest looked the other way because they lacked the technical expertise to stop them.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Arthur Blank is my Brother in laws neighbor   :-X

so if I post this on FB and BIL reads it and yell's across the fence to
Art in his backyard , happens to mention that Lowes is having the suck ...
and poor little college softball players are getting the wienie because of it ...

 would that be cool ?

 :dunno:

:lol: :lol:

That would be funny indeed.

You raise an excellent point about the TV viewership.  I had not considered that.  I don't live in the Tuscaloosa area, so I really can't speak about the local TV audience.  However I do know that I have watched our girls on ESPN several times this year though.  In fact they will be on ESPN2 tonight and ESPNU tomorrow if I am not mistaken.  You can routinely catch an Alabama softball game on TV from pretty much anywhere in the world.  If ya'll get ESPN out there you should check out the Bama/Florida series this weekend that will determine the SEC champ.  It should be a good series.

So you can get his home phone?Oops-- isn't that Home Depot? My bad.

 #+, SC well done my compliments. The rest of our posters and the Hawaiian poster great debate. I agree with you SC, if all we did is cheat to win that would low rate our on player as if she wasn't honest. Alabama fans are honest and we have took some losses that hurt more than anything. ULL was a day we never forget but we didn't cheat. We got beat on our field honestly. RTR!

 :clap: :clap:  :-*, I voted again just now and I voted honest. I am from Alabama and proud, thank you. RTR!

yeah , it's home depot , but think of the advertising possibilities ...

I can see it now , "don't end up under the bleachers because of lowes"

I'll work on the number for you , but ...
the last time I was up there I brought up the Brett F. Trade to green bay ...
something to the effect of "the dumbest trade in football history" I believe it was . Art was not impressed and BIL kicked me under the table ...

 :o
  

The bat issue speaks for itself as what it is to to your track record, just read the post below for the explanation of it and maybe you can understand more of why composite bats aren't allowed anymore or you may contact Coach Pat Murphy and ask him about the legality of your teams bats that year. As for the voting scheme, your school started it and then reported another school for doing the same thing, do you see anything wrong with that? Probably not!!  :dunno:

Hypothetically speaking ...

if there was a guy that had a friend that worked for a company
errr... lets say like Lowes for instance

and the said hypothetical friend was a higher up in the Lowes HR dept.

and the hypothetical guy told the hypothetical HR friend about all of this
and the hypothetical friend was hypothetically amazed at what went on

would it be hypothetically out of bounds to offer further assistance in
the matter if the hypothetical Lowes HR friend ask for it ?

and say what if the hypothetical HR friend says that a hypothetical guy
named SUPERCOACH did a great job exposing the hypothetical voting fraud .
would he be obligated to hypothetically help the HR friend if asked to ?

 hypothetically speaking of course ....


 :popcorn2:

Well I heard back from them.  It appears they are going to keep their head in the sand and pretend everything is legit.  That is their story and they are sticking to it.

I just checked again and of course nothing has changed.  You can still vote as many times as you want.

I can't speak for the hypothetical SUPERCOACH, but the real one is glad to help anyone at Lowes in any manner that I can.  If they don't have the technical people on staff to stop it, they should at least change the rule and say that you can vote as many times as you want so that it matches reality.  That would take maybe 5 minutes to update the web page that has the rules on it.

she will be back in the office Monday , I'll hit her up ...
lowes needs to realize , egg on their face may not be so easily removed .

wonder if any of those espn investigative reporters ever visit here ?   :dunno: 

I believe this project is subcontracted out to a company called Premier Sports Management.  They may end up getting fired if they can't get this under control and give the players a fair vote.

I am getting this error page right now when I go there to see the current results.  Is anyone else seeing this?

It appears that they may have just blocked me.  I don't see it when I connect from another machine.  This is interesting.  I wonder if I vote multiple times on another machine if they will block it too.

It looks like they have changed the IP address of their server and my computer was still trying to connect to the old one.  I'm guessing they have made some updates to the server and deployed a new version of the site.  Hopefully they have closed all of the loop holes.  I will be probing them again pretty soon to see if anything is different.

Yes, I'm getting ther same error message.

I tested the new server.  You can still vote as many times as you want.

I have noticed that since they shut down the auto vote loop hole I was using that the percentages have not moved hardly at all in several days.  Maybe 0.1% every now and then.  This further proves that the Hawaii folks were using an auto vote program.  If they really had all of those fans they claim to have they would still be inching up away from every body.

It should go away on its own in a few minutes when your computer decides it is time to look up the server address again and get the new number.  Right now you are still connecting to the old number.

How do I get to the ballot?

Rebooting your computer should do it, or you can just wait a little while and try back later.

Thanks

They axed me on Monday, this is the message that I get.

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Does it work now?

I just rebooted and voted  again and again and again, etc

No. I've tried accessing at different places and I get the same message each time

That is odd.  Are these all places where you voted from before?  I wonder if they banned them all or something.

Jamos have you rebooted your computer?

Well, they've finally caught up with you.  You're probably  now on the "10 most wanted" list. 8)

I've rebooted but I still get the same screen and message

Since I rebooted, I've been voting like crazy again.

It looks like their server may have just went down again.

Yeah, it's a little strange, maybe SC might have an idea. I don't get an error code just that message as if my link to Microsoft was down and if that was the case I wouldn't be on here now.

 #+ for SC.

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It looks like their site is down at the moment.  I can't get to it at all right now.

You guys must have tripped their burglar alarm.  :dunno:

Looks like we have our friend from the Aloha State on board right now. Maybe he's taking notes and sending it on to Lowes for us.  :dunno:

Which one is him?

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is it the "your hotdog  meant the world to me" guy ?    :o

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Done...but we're way behind... :wall: :( >:(

Name   School   Votes
Valerie Arioto    California    18.8%
Katelyn Boyd    Arizona State    3.9%
Mallory Duran-Sellers    Southern Illinois    3.5%
Julie Fernandez    Lehigh    3.6%
Ashley Hansen    Stanford    3.5%
Michelle Moultrie    Florida    6.2%
Christi Orgeron    Louisiana    7.9%
Cassie Reilly-Boccia    Alabama    18%
Stephanie Ricketts    Hawai‘i    30.9%
Niki Williams    Washington    3.5%

Well got mine done for the day. RTR!

Bump.

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/vote/softball_2012/

She is stuck in 3rd place.

Done!

Did my thing 8)

The server is still down for me from this computer.  But it works just fine from another one.  They must have banned my IP address or something.

:lol:

As if I only had access to one computer...

Yep, I just voted twice from another machine.  Still not secure at all.

The numbers have not changed at all in a while.  This proves that the Hawaii votes came from an auto vote program that ran up a big league.

It says as much for California as well. It really sucks that they are letting Hawaii steal this thing though.

You know I have spent a lot of money at Lowes over the years, I replaced 19 windows in my house with the plastic ones 2 years ago and Lowes did it for me but that won't happen again, Home Depot will get my money from now on. I guess I average going to Lowes 2-3 times a week.

I am fairly certain that I could make another program to auto vote, but unfortunately I am pretty busy with work right now and I don't think I will have time to do it before the voting ends.  If I had time to make another one, I was thinking about just having it vote for all of the girls until they had the exact same percentage.

At this point, if we want a fair contest we are probably going to have to start a social media campaign and/or write letters to Lowe's.  I don't think Lowe's is actually running the contest, I think they hired it out to this Premier Sports Management company that is listed at the bottom of the page.

They are claiming that the Hawaii votes are legit, when it is obvious to everyone of us who watched them spike ahead so quickly that they are not.  Maybe someone could write a letter explaining why losing to Hawaii because they are cheating will not go over so well with ANY Alabama softball fan, and send a link to that article about the hot bats.

It is obvious that they can't distinguish between legit votes and illegal votes, since even now you can vote as many times as you want.

Maybe we should all get on our twitter accounts and launch a campaign using the hashtag #lowesnoclassaward

Well got mine in for the day. Cassie you should win. RTR!

done!

Our friend from Hawaii has stopped by several times.  I guess he doesn't have a rebuttal to the hot bat cheating. 

He was asking for proof, I merely produced it.  :dunno:

He probably was not aware of that proof.  It is hard to argue with those before and after statistics.  The interesting thing to me is that the "cheaters from the SEC" had basically the same numbers before and after the bats were being tested before each game.

And here is my reply:


Respectfully, we do not believe for one second that ALL the illegal votes were removed.  You only removed the obvious illegal votes, such as the 35,000 I created with the auto vote program (and documented publicly).  The fact that the numbers have not changed much at all in recent days only goes to prove that the current lead was achieved by voting multiple times per day, either manually or using a much more subtle auto vote program that does not raise any red flags by voting 4 times per second.

To be clear, I do not want the girl from Alabama to win by cheating.  But by the same token, I do not want her to lose because of cheating either, especially to someone from Hawaii.  There is a little history between the two schools that you are probably unaware of.  A couple of years ago Hawaii knocked #1 Alabama out of a trip to the College World Series because they were using illegal bats.  Here is a link to a newspaper article that explains what happened:  http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1223450  I suggest you read it to understand why Alabama fans are so irate at the prospect of losing to Hawaii in this contest because of cheating.

While the Hawaii fans may or may not have been using an auto vote program (I don't know), they have ADMITTED to voting 100's of times per day using a manual process.  That manual process still works to this day.  I just voted twice in spite of the fact that you have banned me from the site by the IP address that was used by the auto vote program.  There are numerous ways to accomplish this, one of which is documented publicly on the very same forum topic where I disclosed that I voted 35,000 times with an auto vote program.

There is no way the outcome of this contest can be fair or trusted unless:

1)  All of the security holes are closed.

-AND-

2)  All votes are reset to 0 and the contest is restarted with a level playing field.

I am happy to work with you (free of charge) to help identify the remaining security holes.  I know of at least 2 security holes, 1 of which would allow me to write another auto vote program if I were so inclined.  And if I am aware of these security issues, you can bet there are people in the world much smarter than me that are aware of them as well.

I encourage you to have a contest befitting the honesty and integrity displayed by all of the girls that have been nominated, and that includes the girl from Hawaii.  These girls deserve a fair contest.

Nothing is going to change here unless the Alabama fans complain in enough numbers to be heard.  There is a contact us link on the bottom of the voting site.  I suggest you let your voices be heard.

I have seen dozens of comments all over the internet from the Hawaii fans that complained when my auto vote program took the lead.  They even got the University of Hawaii Media Relations department involved.  Maybe we should do the same thing.  Otherwise they are going to "pretend" that they removed all of the illegal votes, when we know full well they did not.  We sat here and watched the Hawaii lead spike up, just like they did when I started the auto vote program.  That is what prompted me to probe their security in the first place.

Go get 'em, SC!!!  #+

Here is a link to the contact form:

http://www.seniorclassaward.com/contact/

I need help.  As long as it is just me, they will ignore me.  The squeaky wheel gets the grease.  Those Hawaii fans squealed pretty loud after I turned on the auto vote program last week.

Maybe we should give e-creds to everyone that contacts them and posts a copy of their letter in here.  How many?

My e-mail to them:

I don't have a twitter account , but, I did complain to Lowe's, with the following............surely ya'll are not going to allow this travesty with the Hiwaiians.....they squealed,,but they used the auto voter first.....Ya'll should do back and check all their votes and be fair about this!

+10 for both of you.  We need dozens, if not 100's more to make a difference.

My 2 cents to Lowe's.

+10

Question where the bats illegal?  Answer no.  So why should we not use them?  Now I am sure you all at Alabama don't want to go into the "Cheating" in sports do you?

Yes, the bats were illegal.

From the article:


It does not matter whether or not the bat model was on a ban list.  Any individual bat that has an exit speed > 98 is illegal, even if the model itself is approved.  Bats can even be legal at the beginning of the season and then become illegal later on in the year as they are broken in.  Once they exceed 98 they are illegal.

You can't cheat your way into becoming a NCAA behemoth. But it must reduce Hawaii to lava ashes to finally be cited at the top of an NCAA category, only to find themselves engulfed in dark clouds of suspicion.  

why do you want to win by cheating?...that proves nothing.....BAMA lets their play on the field remove all doubt!...ya'll might be finally headed in the right direction????but, it might take a few years to prove.....we are there NOW!

And do you have any written proof of this???  The bat that Jenna Rodriguez used to beat Bama that year was sent to the NCAA for testing using the compression tester and also was cut apart to inspect the inside, and the bat was deemed a legal bat.   :deadhorse:

But lets get back to the voting, I noticed that you still insist that Hawaii must have been using some kind of bot like you used, we have also written to the lowe's asking them to check all votes for each girl and received a email back saying that they are doing such and at this time all votes shown are legal votes. 

But I doubt that that will appease some of the Bama fans.

Of course I don't have written proof.  But statistics don't lie.  Do you expect us to believe that a jump from 62 home runs without the bat, to 158 home runs with the bat, then back down to 56 again without it, is legitimate?

Similarly, I have no proof that the Hawaii fans were using an auto vote program.  But there was a tight back and forth race with 3 girls hovering pretty close together, then all of a sudden the girl from Hawaii began to pull away to a huge lead.  This is what prompted me to investigate and probe their security in the first place.  I was shocked at how trivial it was to catch up.  Now that they have closed down the loophole that I was using, suddenly the voting has stabilized again with hardly any movement in either direction.

It looks like they are sticking to their story that the remaining votes are legitimate, and ignoring the fact that I have told them multiple times that even right now at this very moment you can still vote as many times as you want.


Fixed her grammar.   >:( >:(

SC, I tried to access the link to the complaint form but they have me banned.

I did live up to my promise though of changing my business from Lowes to Home Depot. I needed some things for my garden so I stopped there on my way home from the softball game yesterday and I will continue to do so until they correct this scam. It's their loss, not mine.  ;)
 
Thanks for all of your efforts concerning the voting issue.  :clap:

Wow, I must have clicked "modify" on the last post.  Sorry, SC. 
Maybe that early-morning thunderstorm that awoke me at 2:22 is taking its toll!

 #+ for the work on this poll.

No problem Chech.

Guys, I gave it my best shot but I guess at this point I am going to have to throw in the towel.  There is only one week left and I am going to be extremely busy with work during that time.

But rest assured, the remaining Hawaii votes must be legit.  After all, their servers are an impenetrable fortress.

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By the way, I thought the original was correct, but I certainly am not an expert on this subject.  :-[

None have...
One has...
Two have...
Many have..
Some have...

"It seems on your sitting in voting on the ladies for softball there has been a lot of loopholes in your security and Hawaii has run up illegal votes. Would you please take charge of this and see why they can actually "cheat" in voting?
Thank you so much for your time.
Ricky Kilgore"

This is what I sent them. Thanks SC for the tip. RTR!

+10 for Ricky.

Thanks for the help.

Well put, Preacher!

Thanks BAMAWV. I actually just spoke what came on my heart. lol, RTR!

It really depends on what the word "none" is referring to.  Since this sentence refers to a plural, "finalists," either form of the verb is considered acceptable.  Initially, "none" was considered by some to be a contraction of "not one," which is always singular.  However, these days either singular or plural is considered OK if the context is a plural.

Interesting.  I always thought you ignored the prepositional phrase, but a little digging uncovered an exception to this rule when using indefinite pronouns:


From here, for those that are interested:  http://www.towson.edu/ows/moduleSVAGR.htm

Sigh.   :wall:
Just change the grammar rules if the populace can't learn them.
Half the population thinks "There's" is okay with plural phrases: "There's dozens of recruits interested in Aubrun."

At least someone had vision and created a solution for it in Spanish: "Hay".

http://www.towson.edu/ows/indexModules.htm

When did they start all this stuff?





Sar

It all started the first day of class, 3rd grade, Mrs. Humberger's class.  I'll never forgive that yardstick-totin' woman.

Chasm

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I just voted a couple more times. Still no change in standings.  >:(

Yep, Lowes should be very proud to advertise this mess. We still vote via the cell phone but who knows if the votes are being counted. I would be more interested in knowing the number of votes for each player versus the percentage of the votes.  :dunno:

I have seen the numbers tick up or down by 0.1% from time to time.  Isn't it amazing how, once they closed the loop hole I exploited, NO ONE receives enough votes to actually change the percentages?

I think we should direct all of our complaints to Lowe's corporate by sending an email to this address:  customercare@lowes.com

I find it difficult to think Lowes would still have their name associated with this?

Hey I don't know how to show you all my sent program or message but I just sent an e-mail to the Lowe's e-mail address. I hope it works some. RTR!

All fun and games until you go to Lowe's to find your name posted beside the lists of bad check writers and shoplifters. :o

I don't use Lowe's. We have always bought our materials from Home Depot. I am not happy HD but their prices are much more competitive. RTR!

Well I voted but it seems Cassie is stuck on 18%. The girl from Hawaii is at 30%, I wonder if those votes are all legal? RTR!