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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2012, 03:24:46 PM »

That so many lives will be adversely affected by the NCAA sanctions is not an effect of the sanctions, it's a cause for them, the reason they are needed. That is to say, it's precisely because the football team has become so damned important to everyone that people chose to protect it instead of the children. The effect of the NCAA sanctions has to be making football less important, and that means people who fed off that cow are going to have to diversify, make some changes, attract academic conferences, sponsor art festivals, etc. to replace some of the lost business.



BINGO!! Penn State brought most of this onto themselves. Blame Penn State, not the NCAA.
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2012, 03:34:56 PM »

other than not playing in a bowl game won't they still play a regular number of games there at Beaver Stadium ? just like every other season in the past ?

granted the players might not be the same ones that may have been there
before the poo hit the blades , but they will have players , and they will
be playing football , right ?

it's not like they have been at the top of college ball lately anyway
so the drop off won't be that noticeable , will it ?
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 03:47:39 PM »

other than not playing in a bowl game won't they still play a regular number of games there at Beaver Stadium ? just like every other season in the past ?

granted the players might not be the same ones that may have been there
before the poo hit the blades , but they will have players , and they will
be playing football , right ?

it's not like they have been at the top of college ball lately anyway
so the drop off won't be that noticeable , will it ?



Good point. They have averaged 8 wins a season since 1998, so its not like they were part of the national conversation.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 05:13:04 PM »

You know I have read all these posts and I see that there is a lot of hammering PSU which includes all students, players, teachers, towns people, and admin people. If I left anybody out I apologize so sue me, I only have bills you can get.
I have yet to see anybody talk about prayer for the victims, or the souls of the folks that conspired to hide all this. I am about to wonder if there is no hearts or sanctification in here? I know it is fun for most of us to bombard PSU but I would have thought, through all these posts one prayer would have been mention or ask for?  RTR!
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You know I have read all these posts and I see that there is a lot of hammering PSU which includes all students, players, teachers, towns people, and admin people. If I left anybody out I apologize so sue me, I only have bills you can get.
I have yet to see anybody talk about prayer for the victims, or the souls of the folks that conspired to hide all this. I am about to wonder if there is no hearts or sanctification in here? I know it is fun for most of us to bombard PSU but I would have thought, through all these posts one prayer would have been mention or ask for?  RTR!



The men who concealed child rape don't have a soul.

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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2012, 05:33:50 PM »

I'm not a religious person, though I regard myself as forgiving and compassionate. But there are two related problems here. First is that It's not my place to forgive or console the PSU family. The victims are the ones who need consoling, and it is their prerogative to forgive or not. Second, regardless of who is doing the forgiving, doesn't that come after the part where the wrongdoers break down, admit their misdeeds, and ask for forgiveness? If the community seemed like they were genuinely sorry for their part in this and/or ashamed to be associated with these nefarious administrators, I'd be the first to show compassion. But to my mind, every day they dig their heels in further, and every time they do it's another slap in the face to the victims. That doesn't put me in a forgiving mood.
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 07:05:57 PM »

I understand. RTR!
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 08:15:15 PM »

Additionally, the businesses of University Park have done nothing to deserve the economic downturn they are about to experience. These are the people that support the teams year round in many ways. I am not sure why they are being punished by the disassembling of the football team, but I am sure the NCAA can tell us.



That's the cost others must pay for the acts of others. When a man goes to prison, his wife and kids are left without his financial support, maybe even his parents and others. Does that mean we don't send him to prison, since his family will suffer? Of course not, the responsibility is on the convicted for doing his acts. You keep looking for a perfect solution or answer, there is none. Penn State had to be hammered to send a loud, clear message to all coaches and universities, especially university presidents. Reality is a cruel thing sometimes and there are no easy answers.
The conversation surrounding this issue has already been hammered home over the past 8 months. Anyone out there suffering from this type of abuse has been reached with a consistent message. The message that victimizing children will not be tolerated has already been shouted from the rooftops of not just Pennsylvania but across our country. It has been exemplified and illustrated that reporting your abusers will not bring retribution upon yourself, but on the criminals. Media from around our nation said without exception, that coming forth and reporting predators is heroic and you will not be adding humiliation and public blame to your list of horrors by reporting. That these predators are by far in the minority, and society in general will protect you from these crimes at all costs.

That was, unfortunately, the message until the NCAA felt compelled to overreach their mission. While people in Alabama still are receiving the message that that bad guy will be punished, that is no longer the case in Pennsylvania. The actual victims of these abominations will soon begin to receive a different message from their neighbors,-- the people of Pennsylvania.

 First they will hear charges against them of opportunism. Folks will say they are becoming millionaires off this incident (civil suits). Hatred will emanate toward those that sue the estate of Joe Paterno. They will be blamed for being raped, maybe only because no one there will be willing to accept that PSU, or even the PSU Athletic Department is top to bottom evil.  Since the PA society will not accept blanket blame, and the NCAA is not willing to admit this breakdown was not universal but a handful of administrators, someone else will have to take the blame every Saturday.

Addressing the issue for months, sending a message of intolerance for sexual battery on children was not enough for the fans of other schools. Their hate for PSU, or maybe just Yankees or the Big 10, compelled them to hop up and down for NCAA sanctions against the school. It did not matter that the well being of these particular victims would not be well served. It did not matter these victims will soon be afraid to admit they were victims,-- not out of fear from sexual predation but out of fear of retaliation or ostracization by the football fans. Sad
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2012, 08:19:21 PM »

As you sow, so shall you reap.
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2012, 08:24:04 PM »

there is a lot of hammering PSU which includes all students, players, teachers, towns people, and admin people.

I have yet to see anybody talk about prayer for the victims, or the souls of the folks that conspired to hide all this.

I would have thought, through all these posts one prayer would have been mention or ask for?


sorry Ricky
maybe we should have made our Prayers more public


I do Pray for the victims , their families , friends and loved ones

I also Pray for the other side of this too , the bad guys , but
mostly that , there is a special place in Hell waiting on them  
especially JS ...

I refuse to put a "C" for Coach in front of any of any their names
that goes double for JP and JS
they do not deserve a "C" , only special people get that right .
they are not Coaches IMO , at least not what I call a Coach .

I have no ill will towards the majority of the PSU nation
but some of them need to be woke up , they missed this completely .
I try not to Judge these folks even though sometimes I may a little bit ,
the nature of this crime brings that out of me and frustration helps too .
they have a much higher authority to answer to than me ...

there is nothing in this mess that is good for anyone ,
the poor victims , the innocent by-standers called PSU fans
and then there is College Football as a whole  ...

to be honest , I'll be glad when this is so far in our rear view mirrors
we can't see it with the Hubble telescope ...

God Bless Ricky , we will be Praying , bank on it Sir !



 
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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2012, 08:33:01 PM »

The men who concealed child rape don't have a soul.

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I can agree with this , no soul at all  Angry
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2012, 08:43:10 PM »

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Ousted Penn State University president Graham Spanier insisted that he wouldn’t have ignored child sexual-abuse complaints as the school’s top administrator because he was beaten repeatedly as a child by his father, his lawyer told The Associated Press on Monday.


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Spanier received regular “disciplinary beatings” by his father as a teen, and had to have his nose straightened several times, lawyer Peter Vaira said. The abuse was never sexual, Vaira said.

 


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so Graham Spanier didn't even do anything about it when it
was happening to HIM ?

 

come on man , really ? did nothing ? even as a teenager ?

WOW ! that's amazing

I still say this stuff seems to be common place with these people
maybe I'm wrong , but something ain't right with these folks ...

God Bless them all ....  Pray


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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2012, 10:56:20 PM »

there is a lot of hammering PSU which includes all students, players, teachers, towns people, and admin people.

I have yet to see anybody talk about prayer for the victims, or the souls of the folks that conspired to hide all this.

I would have thought, through all these posts one prayer would have been mention or ask for?


sorry Ricky
maybe we should have made our Prayers more public


I do Pray for the victims , their families , friends and loved ones

I also Pray for the other side of this too , the bad guys , but
mostly that , there is a special place in Hell waiting on them 
especially JS ...

I refuse to put a "C" for Coach in front of any of any their names
that goes double for JP and JS
they do not deserve a "C" , only special people get that right .
they are not Coaches IMO , at least not what I call a Coach .

I have no ill will towards the majority of the PSU nation
but some of them need to be woke up , they missed this completely .
I try not to Judge these folks even though sometimes I may a little bit ,
the nature of this crime brings that out of me and frustration helps too .
they have a much higher authority to answer to than me ...

there is nothing in this mess that is good for anyone ,
the poor victims , the innocent by-standers called PSU fans
and then there is College Football as a whole  ...

to be honest , I'll be glad when this is so far in our rear view mirrors
we can't see it with the Hubble telescope ...

God Bless Ricky , we will be Praying , bank on it Sir !



 



 Applause E-Cred, It doesn't matter but I do see private prayers working and that is great. I do agree with all of course but what really scares me is the HATE I saw coming out. I just can't sit and see anybody leave this world with hate in their heart without telling them. God Bless you all. I just did my job as Christ teaches me in his Word, tell them the truth. Goodnight also.  Grin, RTR!
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2012, 01:27:33 AM »

what really scares me is the HATE I saw coming out. I just can't sit and see anybody leave this world with hate in their heart


roger wilco ... 10-4 .... read ya' loud and clear Preacher man     Lips Sealed



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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2012, 08:08:03 AM »

It's a good thing you do Ricky, to keep us between the lines. This thing could become a feeding frenzy. Too much agreement is usually a sign of too little crutical thinking.
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