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Title: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: crtuneman on September 14, 2013, 08:39:24 PM
Share your observations and thoughts from the game. I'll start. First, Johnny Football is the best player in the game this year, and it's not even close. I think he might be the best QB I have seen since Peyton. He's better than Cam and Robert Griffin. He has great touch: he put his long passes in places where only his guy could catch it. He has a great ability to read defenses pre-snap. Not as good as Peyton of course, but who does? And of course he has incredible escape ability. Second, didn't play that poorly. Most of the game they were not in terrible position but JF just put the ball on the money. The DL played okay but didn't get a consistent push. A&M does have a fantastic OL so I give them credit. The offense of course was on fire. AJ and the WRs played lights out, and the OL and RBs played great as well. But one thing that was overlooked is our special teams. I thought they did a very good job. Coaches made some good adjustments in game. Bottom line; Bama survived against the best player in the country in their own house. They will not play a QB of that caliber again unless they play Oregon. I am happy with the win and think Bama will play better the rest of the year. I also predict that A&M will not lose again. But once JF leaves A&M will be like Auburn post-Cam; Mediocre to bottom of the pack. And I look forward to HSCoach and his observations. Roll Tide!


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 14, 2013, 08:57:44 PM
I have some thoughts, but I am too busy watching the barn lose to type them up right now.

In short, JF has NFL talent but makes sophomore decisions sometimes.  After JF is gone they will still have Kevin Sumlin.  He is an impressive coach, and he can take his pick from all of those Texas recruits while Mack Brown continues as the ring master at that 3 ring circus they have going on at UT.

:popcorn2:


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 14, 2013, 09:01:19 PM
I have to disagree somewhat about Manziel's passing. He had at least 150 yards passing due to WIDE OPEN receivers, including the 95 yard TD. Many of us could have completed those passes. He was excellent, but Cam, Peyton, and several others are much better.


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Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: N.AL-Tider on September 14, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
I predict that if Bama takes care of their business by winning out there will very likely be an all-SEC BCSNCG again this year, Bama vs. aTm.  I really hope that isn't the case because I would hate for Bama to have to try and beat them again...


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: Marshal Dillon on September 14, 2013, 09:12:56 PM
I predict that if Bama takes care of their business by winning out there will very likely be an all-SEC BCSNCG again this year, Bama vs. aTm.  I really hope that isn't the case because I would hate for Bama to have to try and beat them again...



I'm not sure they can get by LSU, but they could make the title game but Ohio St., Oregon, & Stanford have to lose.


 :think:


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: Catch Prothro on September 14, 2013, 09:14:00 PM
I have to disagree somewhat about Manziel's passing. He had at least 150 yards passing due to WIDE OPEN receivers, including the 95 yard TD. Many of us could have completed those passes. He was excellent, but Cam, Peyton, and several others are much better.


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I'm not sure many of us could have avoided the rushers to give the receivers time to get open.   :lol2:

I agree Manziel is no Manning.  (I don't put Cam in the same category.)  I also agree with SuperCoach that he has talent (the touch and elusiveness) to play in the NFL but makes "sophomore decisions."  Heck, he is a sophomore.  I don't think he will be ready for the NFL next year, but he'll leave college station at his first opportunity.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: McBaman on September 14, 2013, 09:21:22 PM
OK my 2-cents... [1] OL which proved nothing vs. VaTech proved a lot today.  Eleminate the silly mistakes and continue to get better and they will be a good group.  [2] Not sure how much D-line not getting pressure was failure to fight off blocks or a technique to contain JFF.  In any case, we need to get better pressure on QB's.  [3] What's up with Amari ??  [4] DB's have a lot of work to do.  Thankfully we have a few weeks/games where they can work to improve.  But if they don't get it together by Nov, Zack M & LSU might whack us. [5] But mainly, an SEC road win against a team as good as aTm is a big deal!!!  RTR


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: cbbama99 on September 14, 2013, 09:21:35 PM
Not going to try and say Manziel ISN'T talented, because he most certainly is. He is about as elusive as I have ever seen, and he has great arm strength. I wonder, though, if his receivers shouldn't be getting a little more credit. It seems to me that he floated a number of his passes tonight and just let his big receivers go up and get them. Again, I am not trying to downplay his talent at all. Just wondering if you guys think that is true.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: crtuneman on September 14, 2013, 09:28:49 PM
Go back and watch his long passes. He put the ball right on the money most of the night. He has incredible touch on the long passes.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: Catch Prothro on September 14, 2013, 09:33:20 PM
Not going to try and say Manziel ISN'T talented, because he most certainly is. He is about as elusive as I have ever seen, and he has great arm strength. I wonder, though, if his receivers shouldn't be getting a little more credit. It seems to me that he floated a number of his passes tonight and just let his big receivers go up and get them. Again, I am not trying to downplay his talent at all. Just wondering if you guys think that is true.
Manziel did chunk a few passes up in the air to his tall receiver.  His "Heisman Moment" play was definitely on the receiver.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: SUPERCOACH on September 14, 2013, 09:35:59 PM
Not going to try and say Manziel ISN'T talented, because he most certainly is. He is about as elusive as I have ever seen, and he has great arm strength. I wonder, though, if his receivers shouldn't be getting a little more credit. It seems to me that he floated a number of his passes tonight and just let his big receivers go up and get them. Again, I am not trying to downplay his talent at all. Just wondering if you guys think that is true.
Manziel did chunk a few passes up in the air to his tall receiver.  His "Heisman Moment" play was definitely on the receiver.

90% of the time, that play is an interception.  9% it is an incomplete.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: sbo1971 on September 14, 2013, 09:36:57 PM
Manziel is overrated, he's good but not as good as they have made him out to be, DB's are one of our weakest links which I was concerned about, Arie and Cyrus K make way too many mistakes, if we can get the DB's and the brothers straightened out we could be unbeatable.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: crtuneman on September 14, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Another thing to think about; Cam had 5 200 yd passing games and 2 300 yd passing games. He never threw for more than 400 yds. Manziel has done it 3 times. Manziel has a better arm than Cam and he is just as fast and slippery as Cam. I'm not saying he's Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning, but he certainly is an elite passer and he is also an elite runner.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: cbbama99 on September 14, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
Go back and watch his long passes. He put the ball right on the money most of the night. He has incredible touch on the long passes.

Again, not saying he is not talented, but I am not sure about the incredible part, either. I also didn't say ALL of his passes, just a number of them.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: sbo1971 on September 14, 2013, 10:07:42 PM
The officiating sucked


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: bama87 on September 14, 2013, 10:12:09 PM
My two cents. JF is a special talent. He makes dumb plays and if we weren't so spread out, those throws back to the middle of the field get picked. We had one for a TD by VINNIE. Those couple of jump balls were poorly played by the secondary.

Offense looked great minus the Yeldon fumble. The line blocked and gave AJ an enormous amount of time to throw. The guys up front were able to move their man and open big holes. I think we will see more of JF at RB. He is the bruiser and tough yard guy. He maybe should have been in instead of TJ on that fumble.

D line was good but the DBs need work and that is CNS strong suit so we shall see what next week brings.

I look for power football next week.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: lstephen on September 14, 2013, 11:21:57 PM
Manziel is very, very good.  So is McCarron and Mac is more poised and experienced.  I'll take AJ.  We showed a He.. of a lot of progress, particularly the OL.  Secondary will be OK because we won't see many QBs, RECs, OLs as good as this one.  Maybe Ole Miss will be a challenge.  Certainly LSU.  SC/GA, I don't know.  Oregon, definitely.

Looking forward to hearing from hscoach.
ROLL TIDE!!!


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: bamaphil on September 15, 2013, 01:07:02 AM
Manziel is the best college QB I've seen.  Two years in a row he's pretty much had his way against one of the best defenses in the country.  Our secondary needs some work, but time after time he threw the ball right where it needed to be.

The good news is that we've now made it through what should be the toughest game of the year with a win.  Our boys showed they've got championship character by not giving up when things weren't going well, bouncing back from mistakes, and earning a hard fought victory in a hostile environment.

The officiating was suspect at best.  I'm very glad it didn't ultimately affect the outcome of the game.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: Chechem on September 15, 2013, 05:22:41 AM
Bottom line:

Alabama won.  But our weaknesses were exploited, and we know where we need work.  It was a perfect game, hard-fought and a nail-biter, but showed the young players they NEED WORK.  They'll keep working hard now; perfect.  We're in great shape: NUMBER 1.

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Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: bamaphil on September 15, 2013, 07:30:59 AM
Bottom line:

Alabama won.  But our weaknesses were exploited, and we know where we need work.  It was a perfect game, hard-fought and a nail-biter, but showed the young players they NEED WORK.  They'll keep working hard now; perfect.  We're in great shape: NUMBER 1.


I will say that I'm glad Saban is DB specialist.  They need the most work.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: 2Stater on September 15, 2013, 07:44:12 AM
The offense was outstanding with the exception of the Yeldon fumble. I agree that Fowler would have been better in that position, but hind sight is always 20/20.I'm really proud of the "O" line, even though Cyko had some false starts. They really got the job done yesterday, both for the run and the pass. AJ was slow to start in both halves, but once he got warmed up, he really played well.

The "D" line and secondary were horrendous, I don't care how you look at it. Manziel is a great QB, but we gave him all day to throw, and throw he did. It was virtually pitch and catch most of the day. Fulton got owned like he did in the first half of last year's game. Even though Cyrus Jones made the key interception that really got the momentum going in our direction, it's obvious that he needs more experience in that position. Belue going down killed us. Haha had a tough day, also.

2 bright spots on "D" were Vinnie and Landon Collins. Vinnie was out of position a couple of times, but the interception for a TD was a thing of beauty. Landon was all over the field making play after play. He was like a man possessed. I think it's time for CNS to turn him loose on opposing teams.

But all in all, a win is a win, especially against a great A&M team and their outstanding QB, whom I can't stand, BTW, at their house.

Roll Tide!!!


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: roll tide roll on September 15, 2013, 08:35:56 AM
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Vinnie Sunseri jukes Johnny Manziel during 73-yard pick-six
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Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: td57 on September 15, 2013, 03:33:19 PM
Johnny seen still signing autographs…….at half price.

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: bama87 on September 15, 2013, 05:14:29 PM
Here is a different perspective on the game. My extra 2 cents. This was an unusual game. Texas A&M runs a no huddle hurry up. The move fast. Therefore Alabama had to keep pace. That offense puts stress on the D making it plain and no gameplan. It is strictly backyard football score fast and get the ball back. We could not dial up any blitzes or shift coverage, it was strictly man on man defense.

Our offense and even the defense kept up the pace. We often went no huddle. Once we got a 21 point lead we tried to run and burn clock. We scored out of that style. We will have to play this away against other teams, OM, Aubie and maybe Oregon. Just get ready for it.

Our offense is really good. Look at the combinations of scores we had. We quick strikes with KB and gave them the hammer on Yeldon's TD before half and on Fowler's TD late in the game.

A&M just has the ability to score so fast, everyone relax. Our defense is and will be pretty good


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: Jamos on September 15, 2013, 07:12:58 PM
Bama's slow start almost got them in trouble yesterday but poise and determination prevailed. There are a lot of young ones playing this year and we can expect to see some mistakes from them but they also made some good plays yesterday. I am very impressed with the young group and they will only get better as the seasom progresses.

The Aggies threw everything they had at Bama yesterday but the better team prevailed as good teams do. There's a lot more games to be played but I think Bama came away from yesterdays game with a lot of experience that will pay big dividends down the road. As expected Bama was a much improved team yesterday than from game one and that is what the coaches are after, improvement from game to game.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: crtuneman on September 15, 2013, 07:42:47 PM
Another thought I had. IN most games, if one team takes a 3-4 TD lead, the other team usually gets a little demoralized and doesn't usually take the momentum back. Saturday, I don't believe the A&M offense even knew what the score was. They didn't care how much their defense gave up or what the lead was, they just came out and said we're going to score now. That shows incredible confidence. As a corollary, Bama's D was never able to make that one play to keep A&M from taking the momentum back. You just don't see teams display such confidence when trailing by so many TDs.


Title: Re: Post Game Observations: Share Yours
Post by: KoKoPuf on September 15, 2013, 07:51:01 PM
BAMA played better and deserved to win but I am sure glad Amari came up with the onsides kick. I did not want TAM and JM his receivers to have another shot!