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Title: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on February 15, 2018, 09:04:53 PM
Sources think there's a good chance half this year's tournament field will end up vacating their seasons.

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Multiple sources who’ve been briefed on the case and are familiar with the material obtained by feds told Yahoo Sports that the impact on the sport will be substantial and relentless. Sitting under protective order right now are the fruits of 330 days of monitoring activity by the feds, which one assistant US Attorney noted Thursday was “a voluminous amount of material.” That includes wiretaps from 4,000 intercepted calls and thousands of documents and bank records obtained from raids and confiscated computers, including those from notorious NBA agent Andy Miller.

“This goes a lot deeper in college basketball than four corrupt assistant coaches,” said a source who has been briefed on the details of the case. “When this all comes out, Hall of Fame coaches should be scared, lottery picks won’t be eligible to play and almost half of the 16 teams the NCAA showed on its initial NCAA tournament show this weekend should worry about their appearance being vacated.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-college-hoops-corruption-case-poised-take-hall-fame-coaches-top-programs-lottery-picks-224417174.html


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 15, 2018, 09:43:40 PM
Wow!!

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Catch Prothro on February 16, 2018, 06:44:21 AM
I've been wondering when this time bomb would go off.  Apparently not before this years NCAA Tournament.   It is a shame to see that school on the plains living in the moment, when we all know they're guilty as heck.   :popcorn2:

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NCAA officials are staring at the prospect of a tournament with a winner that will likely be vacating its title – and many others eventually vacating their appearances. There’s a lingering mushroom cloud over the sport’s upcoming showcase event that won’t go away. The most fascinating and tricky variable here is time....

What would happen if the information under protective order were to be released before the NCAA selection show on March 11?

A source who has been briefed on the case laughed: “You might see Tennessee-Chattanooga as a No. 2 seed.”
 



Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: pmull on February 16, 2018, 06:53:02 AM
I smell barn stink.

Top assistant fired after being mentioned by name in the FBI report and later arrested. Two staffers indefinitely removed from the team. Two players sitting out at a minimum the entire year for accepting money. The coach has lawyered up and will not talk to anyone including the school AD and president.

But the team is winning so no one cares. Business as usual on the Plains.


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Catch Prothro on February 16, 2018, 07:32:57 AM
I smell barn stink.

Top assistant fired after being mentioned by name in the FBI report and later arrested. Two staffers indefinitely removed from the team. Two players sitting out at a minimum the entire year for accepting money. The coach has lawyered up and will not talk to anyone including the school AD and president.

But the team is winning so no one cares. Business as usual on the Plains.
They're going to need an extra supply of toilet paper to wipe this one away.   :popcorn2:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 16, 2018, 08:47:03 AM
Definitely the Aubs are guilty. BUT... don’t assume we’re not.

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: pmull on February 16, 2018, 09:17:48 AM
Definitely the Aubs are guilty. BUT... don’t assume we’re not.

 :popcorn2:

I do not assume we are not guilty. However, The NCAA cleared Sexton. Our internal investigation found wrong doing by a staff member and that was handled promptly. I can only hope our investigation was thorough and complete. The way we handled things was much different than Auburn.


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Catch Prothro on February 16, 2018, 09:56:16 AM
Definitely the Aubs are guilty. BUT... don’t assume we’re not.

 :popcorn2:

I do not assume we are not guilty. However, The NCAA cleared Sexton. Our internal investigation found wrong doing by a staff member and that was handled promptly. I can only hope our investigation was thorough and complete. The way we handled things was much different than Auburn.
I think CAJ has too much riding on his coaching -- son playing for the team, prior NBA coaching -- to risk tarnishing his reputation with illegal activity.

Bruce Pearl, on the other hand, is a known cheat.



Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on February 16, 2018, 11:13:17 AM
Definitely the Aubs are guilty. BUT... don’t assume we’re not.

 :popcorn2:

I do not assume we are not guilty. However, The NCAA cleared Sexton. Our internal investigation found wrong doing by a staff member and that was handled promptly. I can only hope our investigation was thorough and complete. The way we handled things was much different than Auburn.
I think CAJ has too much riding on his coaching -- son playing for the team, prior NBA coaching -- to risk tarnishing his reputation with illegal activity.

Bruce Pearl, on the other hand, is a known cheat.



I don't think anyone is expecting it to be at the hands of Coach Johnson if we do have a problem.  I wouldn't have expected it of Grant either.  But then again some assistant getting their palm greased is an easier situation to envision.


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: 2Stater on February 16, 2018, 12:00:37 PM
Definitely the Aubs are guilty. BUT... don’t assume we’re not.

 :popcorn2:

I do not assume we are not guilty. However, The NCAA cleared Sexton. Our internal investigation found wrong doing by a staff member and that was handled promptly. I can only hope our investigation was thorough and complete. The way we handled things was much different than Auburn.
I think CAJ has too much riding on his coaching -- son playing for the team, prior NBA coaching -- to risk tarnishing his reputation with illegal activity.

Bruce Pearl, on the other hand, is a known cheat.



Hence, lawyering up.


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 16, 2018, 12:03:15 PM
Definitely the Aubs are guilty. BUT... don’t assume we’re not.
 :popcorn2:

I do not assume we are not guilty. However, The NCAA cleared Sexton. Our internal investigation found wrong doing by a staff member and that was handled promptly. I can only hope our investigation was thorough and complete. The way we handled things was much different than Auburn.
I think CAJ has too much riding on his coaching -- son playing for the team, prior NBA coaching -- to risk tarnishing his reputation with illegal activity.
Bruce Pearl, on the other hand, is a known cheat.
Hence, lawyering up.

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Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on February 16, 2018, 12:20:40 PM

(https://jsjammersmith.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/barnburning.jpg)

The fire will be easier to contain now that they've built their smaller arena.

For some reason they love to needle Alabama about not selling out all their games.  It apparently doesn't matter to those goobers that we average about 4,000 more per game than they do.


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 16, 2018, 12:27:15 PM

(https://jsjammersmith.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/barnburning.jpg)

The fire will be easier to contain now that they've built their smaller arena.

For some reason they love to needle Alabama about not selling out all their games.  It apparently doesn't matter to those goobers that we average about 4,000 more per game than they do.

They're not good at math (e.g., 17 is more than 2).   :lol2:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: 2Stater on February 16, 2018, 01:59:53 PM

(https://jsjammersmith.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/barnburning.jpg)

The fire will be easier to contain now that they've built their smaller arena.

For some reason they love to needle Alabama about not selling out all their games.  It apparently doesn't matter to those goobers that we average about 4,000 more per game than they do.

They're not good at math (e.g., 17 is more than 2).   :lol2:


 :lol: :lol: :lol: E-cred!


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: SUPERCOACH on February 19, 2018, 12:09:56 PM

(https://jsjammersmith.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/barnburning.jpg)

The fire will be easier to contain now that they've built their smaller arena.

For some reason they love to needle Alabama about not selling out all their games.  It apparently doesn't matter to those goobers that we average about 4,000 more per game than they do.

:rofl:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: McBaman on February 20, 2018, 09:10:20 AM
I hope this stuff comes out DURING the tournament.  That would do max damage.  Imagine if teams have to withdraw from the tourney. Chaos!


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: ricky023 on February 20, 2018, 02:21:47 PM
ESPN won't let anything happen to mess up their scheduling or CBS. It will come out after tourney. RTR!


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Catch Prothro on February 20, 2018, 05:14:37 PM
ESPN won't let anything happen to mess up their scheduling or CBS. It will come out after tourney. RTR!
You're right.  The info is in the hands of the FBI.  By the time the NCAA gets around to doing anything, it could be year.   :dunno:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on February 22, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
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Sources familiar with the probe told Yahoo Sports that there’s a surprising level of specificity in the documents, bank records and wiretaps involving Miller’s business. They include exact dollar figures and intricate documentation of payments to the families of college players. There are also conversations brokering deals between Dawkins and the clients he was recruiting.

“There are spreadsheets detailing who got paid, how much they got paid and how much more they were planning to pay,” said a source familiar with the investigation. “The feds got everything they wanted and much more. Don’t think it will only be players who ended up signing with ASM that got paid. Those spreadsheets cast a wide net throughout college basketball. If your school produced a first-round pick in the past three years, be worried.”

According to the sources, the financial records from Miller and wiretap conversations featuring Dawkins illuminate the blatant nature of deal-making to land top talent well before the players turn professional. Those deals could threaten the current eligibility of players because of NCAA amateurism rules and retroactively put in peril the contests participated in by those players. Sources said this includes numerous prominent players in the upcoming NCAA tournament, the showcase of college basketball. “It’s all there,” said a different source familiar with the investigation.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-spreadsheets-wiretaps-bank-records-detail-payment-scheme-hoops-corruption-case-001618078.html


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 22, 2018, 10:05:53 AM
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Sources familiar with the probe told Yahoo Sports that there’s a surprising level of specificity in the documents, bank records and wiretaps involving Miller’s business. They include exact dollar figures and intricate documentation of payments to the families of college players. There are also conversations brokering deals between Dawkins and the clients he was recruiting.

“There are spreadsheets detailing who got paid, how much they got paid and how much more they were planning to pay,” said a source familiar with the investigation. “The feds got everything they wanted and much more. Don’t think it will only be players who ended up signing with ASM that got paid. Those spreadsheets cast a wide net throughout college basketball. If your school produced a first-round pick in the past three years, be worried.”

According to the sources, the financial records from Miller and wiretap conversations featuring Dawkins illuminate the blatant nature of deal-making to land top talent well before the players turn professional. Those deals could threaten the current eligibility of players because of NCAA amateurism rules and retroactively put in peril the contests participated in by those players. Sources said this includes numerous prominent players in the upcoming NCAA tournament, the showcase of college basketball. “It’s all there,” said a different source familiar with the investigation.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-spreadsheets-wiretaps-bank-records-detail-payment-scheme-hoops-corruption-case-001618078.html

 :popcorn2: :popcorn2: :popcorn2:

Maybe Coach Cal will finally be deposed.   :clap: :clap:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: SUPERCOACH on February 22, 2018, 03:49:26 PM
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"If your school produced a first-round pick in the past three years, be worried.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-spreadsheets-wiretaps-bank-records-detail-payment-scheme-hoops-corruption-case-001618078.html

I guess we are good then.  :lol2:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Hannibal Lecter, MD on February 24, 2018, 03:29:24 PM
Arizona's Sean Miller will not coach tonight after it comes out that he was caught on wiretap discussing a $100k payout to a player.


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 24, 2018, 03:44:26 PM
Arizona's Sean Miller will not coach tonight after it comes out that he was caught on wiretap discussing a $100k payout to a player.

Expect a lot of that in the coming year! 

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: ricky023 on February 24, 2018, 04:15:13 PM
I pray not us. RTR!


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 24, 2018, 04:22:39 PM
I pray not us. RTR!

This crap is self-inflicted.  I'm not sure prayer is appropriate for that.

 :popcorn2:


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: ricky023 on February 24, 2018, 06:37:51 PM
I pray not us. RTR!

This crap is self-inflicted.  I'm not sure prayer is appropriate for that.

 :popcorn2:


I am human so I think if I can pray this away I will do it. lol, RTR!


Title: Re: FBI basketball probe could potentially affect 50 programs
Post by: Chechem on February 24, 2018, 09:40:25 PM
I pray not us. RTR!

This crap is self-inflicted.  I'm not sure prayer is appropriate for that.

 :popcorn2:
I am human so I think if I can pray this away I will do it. lol, RTR!

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