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Title: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: PCTide on March 28, 2015, 11:06:11 PM DV3-CRIMINAL MISCHIEF, DVIII ASSAULT >:(
Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: McBaman on March 28, 2015, 11:12:40 PM One would think he would be outta here. CNS stuck his neck out for this guy, and now he does this???
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/03/alabama_defensive_tackle_jonat.html Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 28, 2015, 11:17:52 PM I anxiously await all the apologists who supported his coming to Alabama, mainly because Saban wanted him and in fact were holier-than-thou about it.
:dog: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: N.AL-Tider on March 29, 2015, 06:17:39 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance...
Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: 2Stater on March 29, 2015, 06:37:26 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance... Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. ^^^This. Don't hold your breath, MD. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Chechem on March 29, 2015, 06:38:58 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance... Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. ^^^This. Don't hold your breath, MD. :lol: :lol: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: N.AL-Tider on March 29, 2015, 07:00:04 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance... Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. ^^^This. Don't hold your breath, MD. MD, you go ahead and hold your breath until one of us gets back to you with that apology... Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Chechem on March 29, 2015, 07:09:44 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance... Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. ^^^This. Don't hold your breath, MD. MD, you go ahead and hold your breath until one of us gets back to you with that apology... :lol: #+ #+ Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: 2Stater on March 29, 2015, 07:13:17 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance... Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. ^^^This. Don't hold your breath, MD. MD, you go ahead and hold your breath until one of us gets back to you with that apology... :lol: #+ #+ :lol: :lol: :lol: You're right, NALT, where are my manners. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 07:36:31 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance... Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. It was his third chance, not second chance. Do you support a 4th chance? Just wondering. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: pmull on March 29, 2015, 07:42:00 AM Second chances are great when they work and terrible when they do not.
Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 07:51:19 AM I'm not sure if I am an apologist regarding this kid or not but...if so, I won't apologize for my supporting Coach Saban for giving the kid a second chance. Most people actually do deserve a second chance... Quote "We recruited this young man out of high school," Alabama coach Nick Saban said in February. "We felt that what we knew about him, what his high school coaches said about him, from what people at the school he was at said about him and where he came from in junior college that he was the kind of guy that deserved a second chance. ^^^This. Don't hold your breath, MD. Apparently you guys don't know what an apologist is, it's someone who makes excuses for someone else's judgement, actions, decisions, etc. I would never ask for an apology, the situation speaks for itself. There is nothing to apologize for, people make decisions or statements & then, as I said, the situation ends up speaking for itself. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: 2Stater on March 29, 2015, 09:01:53 AM MD breaks up the shutout:
CRS board - 12567 MD - 1 :lol2: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: KoKoPuf on March 29, 2015, 09:23:02 AM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD!
Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 09:36:12 AM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. :dog: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: 2Stater on March 29, 2015, 09:44:09 AM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. :dog: Enjoy your 15 minutes. Here have a cigar............. (http://www.jabootu.com/images/ssmcigar.jpg) Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: bama57 on March 29, 2015, 09:52:07 AM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. :dog: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Catch Prothro on March 29, 2015, 09:55:24 AM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. :dog: In all seriousness, though, it seemed like a bad decision to me too. I was willing to give Saban some latitude because he is the one paid to make the decisions, and is a much better coach than I ever could be. He also has managed to keep some trouble makers in check while playing for him. But will all the good kids who really want to play for Bama, it seemed like we didn't need to add a bad apple to the basket, especially one with such a checkered history. As I said at the time, the kid belonged at Auburn, not Bama. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: bama57 on March 29, 2015, 09:57:50 AM One thing about Mr Taylor, he brought out some good discussion on our board.
Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 10:29:02 AM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. :dog: Enjoy your 15 minutes. Here have a cigar............. (http://www.jabootu.com/images/ssmcigar.jpg) You still don't get it, do you? You're a good poster, but you just can't let go on this issue. Maybe this is another example of your humor & I don't get it. Oh well, you're still one of my favorite posters, I mean that. :dunno: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 10:39:49 AM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. :dog: In all seriousness, though, it seemed like a bad decision to me too. I was willing to give Saban some latitude because he is the one paid to make the decisions, and is a much better coach than I ever could be. He also has managed to keep some trouble makers in check while playing for him. But will all the good kids who really want to play for Bama, it seemed like we didn't need to add a bad apple to the basket, especially one with such a checkered history. As I said at the time, the kid belonged at Auburn, not Bama. SUPER BINGO!!! It's one thing to recruit a kid who has never been a problem then gets in trouble, but to sign one with Taylor's major troubles was like asking for a punch in the nose. What also bothers me is now every time this thug gets in trouble the headline will say,"Former Alabama Football Player is Arrested for (fill in blank)." Oh well, live & learn. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: McBaman on March 29, 2015, 01:08:41 PM Tweet in ESPN says he's been dismissed from the team. Scroll down the left side a little bit...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/ Also tweets on tidesports.com quoting CNS... https://alabama.rivals.com/? Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Catch Prothro on March 29, 2015, 01:15:17 PM Tweet in ESPN says he's been dismissed from the team. Scroll down the left side a little bit... Good news, and no surprise. Saban said he would be on a short leash.http://espn.go.com/college-football/ Also tweets on tidesports.com quoting CNS... https://alabama.rivals.com/? Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 01:16:34 PM Now the media pile-on starts. :facepalm:
Quote Based on the details of Jonathan Taylor‘s domestic violence arrest — his second in eight months, no less — there’s seemingly no way he can move forward as a member of the Alabama Crimson Tide. Quote In response to the situation, the university released a very brief statement early Sunday morning that’s scant on details as to Taylor’s future with the university in general and the football program specifically: “UA is aware of the incident. The student has been referred to judicial affairs.” It would be very surprising if another statement wasn’t released at some point in the very near future, perhaps as early as today, in which Second-Chance Saban announces that Taylor is no longer a part of his football program. At least, based on the current evidence and Taylor’s prior track record, that’s what should happen, and the sooner the better for the sake of a head coach’s and university’s image that has already taken a hit because of the player’s actions — and because of the way his signing was so staunchly defended at the time. I just love a smart-a*s journalist. http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/29/bama-issues-statement-as-details-of-jonathan-taylors-arrest-emerge/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs (http://lowres.cartoonstock.com/media-journalist-journalism-minor-degress-tv_reporters-jchn17_low.jpg) Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 01:23:05 PM Tweet in ESPN says he's been dismissed from the team. Scroll down the left side a little bit... Good news, and no surprise. Saban said he would be on a short leash.http://espn.go.com/college-football/ Also tweets on tidesports.com quoting CNS... https://alabama.rivals.com/? Thanks for the heads-up. Sad in one way, but absolutely necessary. I'm afraid we have not heard the last of Mr. Taylor. Very troubled young person. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Catch Prothro on March 29, 2015, 01:54:28 PM Tweet in ESPN says he's been dismissed from the team. Scroll down the left side a little bit... Good news, and no surprise. Saban said he would be on a short leash.http://espn.go.com/college-football/ Also tweets on tidesports.com quoting CNS... https://alabama.rivals.com/? Thanks for the heads-up. Sad in one way, but absolutely necessary. I'm afraid we have not heard the last of Mr. Taylor. Very troubled young person. Journalists will forever refer to him as "Former University of Alabama football player Jonathan Taylor..." :facepalm: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: ALTideUp on March 29, 2015, 02:43:07 PM Report from the other thread:
I am fully behind Coach and his defense of second chances as an alternative to letting someone's life go into the dumps because they made one mistake. That argument is as compelling today as it was when he first said those things. But there have to be consequences for each new "bad act", and Taylor's consequence must be removal from the team if the charges prove not to be spurious. Coach must do this if he hopes that the next guy to whom he gives a second chance will cherish and make the most of that opportunity. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: 2Stater on March 29, 2015, 04:39:46 PM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. :dog: Enjoy your 15 minutes. Here have a cigar............. (http://www.jabootu.com/images/ssmcigar.jpg) You still don't get it, do you? You're a good poster, but you just can't let go on this issue. Maybe this is another example of your humor & I don't get it. Oh well, you're still one of my favorite posters, I mean that. :dunno: Bingo! :lol2: Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: N.AL-Tider on March 29, 2015, 06:58:32 PM Make that 12567 - 2 . I'm with MD! Thanks for not losing sight of what is important. This is not about me & never was, it was about choices, fans, & principles. Nothing else. It was changed to me when I challenged a couple of posters for making excuses for what I considered a very bad decision by Saban. Most of the posters took a guarded, thoughtful approach to Taylor's signing with deep reservations, but a couple just could not accept my strong objections to the decision, so they tried to make me the problem. That's what people do when they can't defend their own poor decisions & choices. Easier to attack the messenger. Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: ricky023 on March 29, 2015, 08:51:40 PM These guys get more Press when they do these stupid things than when they are doing it right. Why talk about them anymore in the press when they have done so wrong? RTR!
Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: 2Stater on March 29, 2015, 09:27:32 PM These guys get more Press when they do these stupid things than when they are doing it right. Why talk about them anymore in the press when they have done so wrong? RTR! Unfortunately, you are right, Preacher. Bad news makes headlines. I'm guessing though, that the person that is the least upset about the Taylor issue is Geno Smith. :unsure: Ok, bad joke. :-[ Title: Re: Jonathan Taylor arrest Post by: Marshal Dillon on March 29, 2015, 10:02:48 PM These guys get more Press when they do these stupid things than when they are doing it right. Why talk about them anymore in the press when they have done so wrong? RTR! Unfortunately, you are right, Preacher. Bad news makes headlines. I'm guessing though, that the person that is the least upset about the Taylor issue is Geno Smith. :unsure: Ok, bad joke. :-[ Actually, there is some truth to that. Several news stories about Taylor & Smith are out there & Monday the media will be in full screaming mode. Plus, Sims injury is mixed in some of the stories. |